....although, quite frankly, if I could find a c.1980's ispf that
would work under mvs3.8j, I would just go ahead and use it... I don't
think this is in the same league as piratting z/os... which doesn't
interest me at all... vive le 24 bit, and 16MB real!

On 22/10/06, Phil Dickinson <phil.dickinson@...> wrote:
> I have also wondered if it was/is possible to transfer a licence from
> an organisation that has paid a OTC for an early version of ispf. I
> believe there was provision for transferring licences under the old
> ibm T&C.
>
> I recall that you were given the option to move to a OTC , from a MLC,
> as a version matured.
>
> Old age may have affected my memory.
>
> On 22/10/06, s_vetter_48188 <svetter@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In hercules-advocacy@yahoogroups.com, "somitcw" <somitcw@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In hercules-390@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "Phil Dickinson" <phil.dickinson@> wrote:
> > > >On 20/10/06, Enrico Sorichetti <e.sorichetti@> wrote:
> > > >> If by "ispf" you mean the Ispf program product
> > > >>by IBM , well.... it will not run on MVS 3.8.
> > > > If we had an old enough version it would run
> > > >on MVS 3.8J.
> > > > Both SPF and ISPF worked on this old MVS.
> > > > But even if we could find the right distribution
> > > >files, we might have dificulty convincing IBM to
> > > >license its use under hercules.
> > >
> > > SPF HPF1102 5668-009 was available in 1980.
> > > Were there earlier SPF releases?
> > >
> > > Please answer on hercules-advocacy:
> > > If the copyright is 1980, how many more decades
> > > will it be before it expires?
> > > Could IBM refuse a company that started sending in
> > > monthly or a one-time-charge license fee or fees?
> > >
> >
> > Yes there was. About 1979/1980 there was a version called SPF which
> > was an FDP. About 1982 or so, SPF was split into two different
> > products: ISPF and PDF.
> >
> > As for making a payment to IBM for SPF (or ISPF/PDF), IBM could
> > return the check stating "no such product". As well as you not having
> > an account with IBM.
> >
> >
>