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RE: [hercules-advocacy] Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules

I sometimes think that IBM invented the "NDR" (non-disclosure agreement) but
I expect that any legal use of zOS, zVM or zVSE, be it within IBM or by a
customer, will be covered by such a thing, which is possibly why you find it
difficult to get answers here. And any one running them illegally is hardly
likely to comment.



Dave Wade G4UGM

Illegitimi Non Carborundum



-----Original Message-----
From: hercules-advocacy@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:hercules-advocacy@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stan Saraczewski
Sent: 04 March 2009 03:36
To: hercules-advocacy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hercules-advocacy] Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules



You won't get a definitive answer here.

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The statement below is true.

The statement above is false.

--- On Tue, 3/3/09, vencain <vencain@hotmail. <mailto:vencain%40hotmail.com>
com> wrote:
From: vencain <vencain@hotmail. <mailto:vencain%40hotmail.com> com>
Subject: [hercules-advocacy] Re: Legally Running z/OS on Hercules
To: hercules-advocacy@ <mailto:hercules-advocacy%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 6:31 PM

Yes.

My point was that telling folks to try and locate someone within IBM as to
whether any of this group's members were allowed to run z/OS under Hercules
seems counterintuitive when compared to asking the users directly via a post
to this group.

-VenCain

--- In hercules-advocacy@ yahoogroups. com, Stan Saraczewski
<stan_saraczewski@ ...> wrote:

>

> 'User community' ?

>

> Isn't that this mailing list ?

>











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We would like to know what the requirements are, for legally running z/OS on Hercules. Is there a link or document that can substantiate the explanation? ...
sccosel
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Feb 26, 2009
2:06 am

... I don't think we can provide a link because as I said elsewhere its in the hands of IBM. The only licence I have access to is the one for the zVM Eval and...
David Wade
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Feb 26, 2009
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... I'm not a mouth-piece. Call IBM. IBM owns the software. IBM sets the rules for their software. I'm not a mouth-piece. I don't believe that IBM normally...
somitcw
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Feb 27, 2009
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Based upon the answers I have been receiving, I am not encouraged. On the surface, this question seems fairly straight-forward. The designers of Hercules made...
sccosel
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Feb 27, 2009
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People DO run z/OS. Getting a License is the only issue. IBM decided to sue PSI, and stopped issuing / renewing Flex-ES licenses, stranding a lot of...
Mike Schwab
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Feb 27, 2009
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Scott, Firstly the rules have changed. The case was that if you had a P/390 you were allowed to run the software on the physical PC with the P/390 card in it....
Dave Wade
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Feb 27, 2009
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... Perhaps I was not clear enough. It is up to IBM who and under what conditions they authorized people to run their for-charge code and where it can run. I...
somitcw
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Feb 28, 2009
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... You missed the point on this one. I was trying to paint the picture that some people might be using Hercules to clandestinely run z/OS under Hercules with...
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... "sccosel" <sccosel@...> wrote: - - - old notes snipped - - - ... "I" assUme that "I" can legally run OS/390 under Hercules. For even older software, at ...
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Not to fan the flames, but if Scott wants to ask whether anyone running Hercules has obtained a license from IBM to run z/OS I think a simple response of yes,...
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Mar 3, 2009
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'User community' ? Isn't that this mailing list ? ... The statement below is true. The statement above is false. ... From: vencain <vencain@...> ...
Stan Saraczewski
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Yes. My point was that telling folks to try and locate someone within IBM as to whether any of this group's members were allowed to run z/OS under Hercules...
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... The problem is that the authoritative answer can only come from IBM. There have been users in the past outside IBM who were authorized to run z/OS on ...
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You won't get a definitive answer here. ... The statement below is true. The statement above is false. ... From: vencain <vencain@...> Subject:...
Stan Saraczewski
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I sometimes think that IBM invented the "NDR" (non-disclosure agreement) but I expect that any legal use of zOS, zVM or zVSE, be it within IBM or by a ...
Dave Wade
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Mar 4, 2009
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... When I worked at IBM many years ago customer data was confidential. Any IBM'er responding to this would probably become an ex-IBM'er. Laddie...
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