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Success is in the eyes of the beholder. If you shoot for the moon (or maybe the
Earth is a better goal being that the moon is pretty baron of life) then you
will most likely not be successful. So experiment and think small.



Grab some 1 gallon clear plastic water jugs and head to the pond or ocean and
grab some "stuff" and see what happens. You may be surprised. For example:



- I schlepped three plastic soda bottles back from Florida. All are sealed.

+ One is water only and it is as clear as the day collected

+ One is filled with 3" sand and water from a 3' depth. and to my surprise, a
bunch of baby clams joined the journey. Sprigs of algae that washed up to shore
were added. This died after a month or so of good clam activity.

+ One was collected very close to shore with about 3" of sand. Sprigs of
algae that washed up to shore were added. This one has cycled and the algae is
starting to grow again. Into this one I'd like to add some CO2 producers but
can't justify the shrimp cost.



- My son & I have collected a number of samples from ponds and lakes. Again
success is relative:

+ The first was 2" of muck, a couple green leafy plants and whatever came
along. After many months, the plants have died but there is still algae and
snail activity. The sides of the glass are coated in brown algae.

+ My son filled a soda bottle with muck and green leafy water plants. The
plants are still alive. Can't really see in the muck to tell if anything is
moving. This "mess" seems to be doing the best relative to plant growth.

+ I collected some lake plants, sand/muck and water and put into a 10 gallon
aquarium with a glass lid. The plants are slowly dying. I added two gold fish
(although they never were gold colored). They eventually died. The snails are
doing well.



At this point I don't have an "ocean or lake in a bottle" environment that is
clear, active and pristine. But my son and I have learned a lot and what
happens next will be based on our current success.



I encourage you to experiment with many models and study the differences. If
you take these to work, be prepared to answer questions about your mess
-in-a-bottle:-)



Nick




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Tue Nov 25, 2003 3:25 pm

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Success is in the eyes of the beholder. If you shoot for the moon (or maybe the Earth is a better goal being that the moon is pretty baron of life) then you...
Nick Kemp
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Nov 25, 2003
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any way you can get more baby clams? are yours still alive? i'd like to see how those fare in a closed ecosystem.. ... From: "Nick Kemp"...
Rymel
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Dec 12, 2003
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Sorry for not replying sooner. I've been migrating to a new PC. Is XP really better than 98???? None of the clams survived and that whole bottle went...
Nick Kemp
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Dec 17, 2003
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... BWAH!!! Goldfish are much to large for a small closed environment, same with clams. (if anyone has a counter example, i'd be interested in hearing about...
Philip Lewis
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Dec 17, 2003
5:50 pm

I may have caused some confusion: - The clams were saltwater in a 2 liter bottle - The gold fish were in a 10 Gallon tank and were very small. They were with...
Nick Kemp
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Dec 17, 2003
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depends on the eye of the beholder. XP overall is pretty good, but is plagued with a lot of minor problems, especially in the long run. i'm getting problems...
Rymel
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Dec 17, 2003
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When I collected the water & sand, I simply scooped up some of whatever came along from about 3' deep water. There is about 3" of sand in a 2 liter bottle and...
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