Hi Martin,

Translating some new items of the deutsch.hif of version 6.2.4.0 (Show
tooltips etc.), I wanted to avoid the same underlined shortcut letter
to appear two times. So I noticed that the shortcut letters in the
drop-down menus are not shown underlined, while in the menu titles
themselves they do; see screenshot menus.gif in the file section. This
is true for the standard English interface as well as for the other
language versions.

Cheers

Richard

Hi Richard,

I think this is normal Windows behaviour, isn't it? You have to hold
down the Alt key (I think it's the Alt key) to see the shortcuts. It's
been like that since XP (or perhaps even since Windows 2000).

Cheers,
Martin

Richard Nisius wrote:
>
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Translating some new items of the deutsch.hif of version 6.2.4.0 (Show
> tooltips etc.), I wanted to avoid the same underlined shortcut letter
> to appear two times. So I noticed that the shortcut letters in the
> drop-down menus are not shown underlined, while in the menu titles
> themselves they do; see screenshot menus.gif in the file section. This
> is true for the standard English interface as well as for the other
> language versions.
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
>
>

Hi

Is it possible to get HotPot to install silently on network computers?

Thx

Hi there,

The Hot Potatoes installer is created using Inno Setup, which has silent
setup features. If you run the setup program from the command line using
/SILENT or /VERYSILENT switches, you'll get silent installs.

Cheers,
Martin

theagressor007 wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> Is it possible to get HotPot to install silently on network computers?
>
> Thx
>
>

A few more details -- this is a quote from the InnoSetup documentation:

/SP-
Disables the This will install... Do you wish to continue? prompt at the
beginning of Setup. Of course, this will have no effect if the
DisableStartupPrompt [Setup] section directive was set to yes.


/SILENT, /VERYSILENT
Instructs Setup to be silent or very silent. When Setup is silent the
wizard and the background window are not displayed but the installation
progress window is. When a setup is very silent this installation
progress window is not displayed. Everything else is normal so for
example error messages during installation are displayed and the startup
prompt is (if you haven't disabled it with the '/SP-' command line
option explained above).

Cheers,
Martin

Martin Holmes wrote:
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> The Hot Potatoes installer is created using Inno Setup, which has silent
> setup features. If you run the setup program from the command line using
> /SILENT or /VERYSILENT switches, you'll get silent installs.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> theagressor007 wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi
>  >
>  > Is it possible to get HotPot to install silently on network computers?
>  >
>  > Thx
>  >
>  >
>
>

--
Martin Holmes
Half-Baked Software, Inc.
mholmes@...

And some more relevant stuff:

/SUPPRESSMSGBOXES
Instructs Setup to suppress message boxes. Only has an effect when
combined with '/SILENT' and '/VERYSILENT'.

The default response in situations where there's a choice is:

Yes in a 'Keep newer file?' situation.
No in a 'File exists, confirm overwrite.' situation.
Abort in Abort/Retry situations.
Cancel in Retry/Cancel situations.
Yes (=continue) in a
DiskSpaceWarning/DirExists/DirDoesntExist/NoUninstallWarning/ExitSetupMessage/Co\
nfirmUninstall
situation.
Yes (=restart) in a FinishedRestartMessage/UninstalledAndNeedsRestart
situation.
5 message boxes are not suppressible:

The About Setup message box.
The Exit Setup? message box.
The FileNotInDir2 message box displayed when Setup requires a new disk
to be inserted and the disk was not found.
Any (error) message box displayed before Setup (or Uninstall) could read
the command line parameters.
Any message box displayed by [Code] support function MsgBox.

So I think if you want an utterly silent installation, you could use
/SP- /VERYSILENT /SUPPRESSMSGBOXES.

Cheers,
Martin

Martin Holmes wrote:
>
>
> A few more details -- this is a quote from the InnoSetup documentation:
>
> /SP-
> Disables the This will install... Do you wish to continue? prompt at the
> beginning of Setup. Of course, this will have no effect if the
> DisableStartupPrompt [Setup] section directive was set to yes.
>
> /SILENT, /VERYSILENT
> Instructs Setup to be silent or very silent. When Setup is silent the
> wizard and the background window are not displayed but the installation
> progress window is. When a setup is very silent this installation
> progress window is not displayed. Everything else is normal so for
> example error messages during installation are displayed and the startup
> prompt is (if you haven't disabled it with the '/SP-' command line
> option explained above).
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> Martin Holmes wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi there,
>  >
>  > The Hot Potatoes installer is created using Inno Setup, which has silent
>  > setup features. If you run the setup program from the command line using
>  > /SILENT or /VERYSILENT switches, you'll get silent installs.
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  > Martin
>  >
>  > theagressor007 wrote:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Hi
>  > >
>  > > Is it possible to get HotPot to install silently on network computers?
>  > >
>  > > Thx
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>
> --
> Martin Holmes
> Half-Baked Software, Inc.
> mholmes@... <mailto:mholmes%40halfbakedsoftware.com>
>
>

--
Martin Holmes
Half-Baked Software, Inc.
mholmes@...

--- In hotpotatoesusers@yahoogroups.com, Martin Holmes <mholmes@...>
wrote:

> I think this is normal Windows behaviour, isn't it? You have to
hold
> down the Alt key

This works indeed. But other programs show the underlined letters
whithout holding down the Alt key.

Whatever, I upload the changed deutsch.hif

Cheers

Richard

(I think it's the Alt key) to see the shortcuts. It's
> been like that since XP (or perhaps even since Windows 2000).
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> Richard Nisius wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > Translating some new items of the deutsch.hif of version 6.2.4.0
(Show
> > tooltips etc.), I wanted to avoid the same underlined shortcut
letter
> > to appear two times. So I noticed that the shortcut letters in the
> > drop-down menus are not shown underlined, while in the menu titles
> > themselves they do; see screenshot menus.gif in the file section.
This
> > is true for the standard English interface as well as for the
other
> > language versions.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
>

Hi Richard,

If other programs show the shortcuts without holding down the Alt key,
then they're not following Windows interface guidelines. Take a look at
Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer; they should behave the same way
as Hot Potatoes does.

This is actually not under my control; it's handled by Borland code
interacting with Windows code. But if it were under my control, I'd
still choose to follow the Microsoft guidelines.

Cheers,
Martin

Richard Nisius wrote:
>
>
> --- In hotpotatoesusers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:hotpotatoesusers%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Holmes <mholmes@...>
> wrote:
>
>  > I think this is normal Windows behaviour, isn't it? You have to
> hold
>  > down the Alt key
>
> This works indeed. But other programs show the underlined letters
> whithout holding down the Alt key.
>
> Whatever, I upload the changed deutsch.hif
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
>
> (I think it's the Alt key) to see the shortcuts. It's
>  > been like that since XP (or perhaps even since Windows 2000).
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  > Martin
>  >
>  > Richard Nisius wrote:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Hi Martin,
>  > >
>  > > Translating some new items of the deutsch.hif of version 6.2.4.0
> (Show
>  > > tooltips etc.), I wanted to avoid the same underlined shortcut
> letter
>  > > to appear two times. So I noticed that the shortcut letters in the
>  > > drop-down menus are not shown underlined, while in the menu titles
>  > > themselves they do; see screenshot menus.gif in the file section.
> This
>  > > is true for the standard English interface as well as for the
> other
>  > > language versions.
>  > >
>  > > Cheers
>  > >
>  > > Richard
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>
>

--
Martin Holmes
Half-Baked Software, Inc.
mholmes@...

Is it possible to have a color for the question and a different one the
answer which is written below it when you click the "Answer button"?

Let me start by saying thanks for a great program!

I teach phonetics to English language specialists, and would like to
create some exercises like matching words with transcriptions. I tries
typing symbols in Word or OpenOffice though the Insert=>Special
Character/Symbol menu, then copying and pasting, but often the
characters aren't recognised.

Can someone let me know where I'm going wrong? Can it be done?

Hi there,

You can change the colours of any of the elements on the page by editing
the CSS. I'm not sure what you mean by "the answer which is written
below it when you click the "Answer button" -- do you mean the feedback?

Cheers,
Martin

noelsivan wrote:
>
>
> Is it possible to have a color for the question and a different one the
> answer which is written below it when you click the "Answer button"?
>
>

--
Martin Holmes
Half-Baked Software, Inc.
mholmes@...

Hi there,

First of all, you need to make sure you're using Unicode -- what version
of Windows do you have? Older versions don't support Unicode properly.

Next, you need to make sure that when you Insert / Special characters,
you're actually inserting Unicode characters, rather than using an
ancient font-based system.

Finally, you need to make sure that Hot Potatoes is set to use fonts
which cover the Unicode ranges that you're using -- use Options / Font
to change the font in the interface to HotPot, and make sure the same
font is chosen in the Configuration screen Appearance tab. Good fonts
for broad Unicode support are Arial Unicode MS and Code2000.

If that still doesn't help, please create an exercise, post it on the
Web, and send us the URL. Also, please explain what you mean by "aren't
recognized".

Cheers,
Martin

Laurie wrote:
>
>
> Let me start by saying thanks for a great program!
>
> I teach phonetics to English language specialists, and would like to
> create some exercises like matching words with transcriptions. I tries
> typing symbols in Word or OpenOffice though the Insert=>Special
> Character/Symbol menu, then copying and pasting, but often the
> characters aren't recognised.
>
> Can someone let me know where I'm going wrong? Can it be done?
>
>

--
Martin Holmes
Half-Baked Software, Inc.
mholmes@...

Hi Laurence



Are you having problems seeing the characters in JQuiz or in the
resulting web page?
What font is specified for display in the interface of Hot Potatoes?
What font is specified for display in the generated web pages?

It sounds to me like the font you have specified either for display
within Hot Potatoes or for display on the web pages does not support all
the characters you want to use. If you specify a unicode character
properly, then the fact that the font specified for display within Hot
Potatoes can't show it should not compromise the display of the
character in whatever font is specified for display on the web page

I'm using Java Hot Potatoes on a Mac (font specified for display in
HotPot is Lucida Grande, font specified for display in web page is
Geneva,Arial,sans-serif), so maybe my results aren't helpful, but here's
what I've found:
I copied a bunch of the text from the web page you provided into the
question field and all the Unicode characters showed up OK for me in
JQuiz and in the resulting web page.
I then copied the HTML table from the source for the web page you
provided, stripped out the return characters and pasted that into the
question box, and it appeart that all the characters showed up properly
in the resulting web page.

Laurence Whiteside wrote:
> OK, I'm using XP so that shouldn't be the problem. I think it's that I
> wasn't using Unicode characters, as when I use Ariel, I can paste them in no
> problem. Before I was using Lucinda Sans Unicode (a bit of a giveaway,
> methinks, but it has all the characters), and pasting those in just gave me
> a blank box.
>
> The problem now is that some fonts appear not to have all the right symbols.
> Also, when I copy and paste a symbol across it sometimes comes out
> differently; for example, the symbol representing the first sound of "ship",
> when pasted comes out as a capital "G". I also tried copying and pasting
> from this web page: http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/ipa-unicode.htm ,
> but I just get a white box again.
>
>
>
> On 05/12/2007, Martin Holmes <mholmes@... > wrote:
>>   Hi there,
>>
>> First of all, you need to make sure you're using Unicode -- what version
>> of Windows do you have? Older versions don't support Unicode properly.
>>
>> Next, you need to make sure that when you Insert / Special characters,
>> you're actually inserting Unicode characters, rather than using an
>> ancient font-based system.
>>
>> Finally, you need to make sure that Hot Potatoes is set to use fonts
>> which cover the Unicode ranges that you're using -- use Options / Font
>> to change the font in the interface to HotPot, and make sure the same
>> font is chosen in the Configuration screen Appearance tab. Good fonts
>> for broad Unicode support are Arial Unicode MS and Code2000.
>>
>> If that still doesn't help, please create an exercise, post it on the
>> Web, and send us the URL. Also, please explain what you mean by "aren't
>> recognized".
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
>> Laurie wrote:
>>>
>>> Let me start by saying thanks for a great program!
>>>
>>> I teach phonetics to English language specialists, and would like to
>>> create some exercises like matching words with transcriptions. I tries
>>> typing symbols in Word or OpenOffice though the Insert=>Special
>>> Character/Symbol menu, then copying and pasting, but often the
>>> characters aren't recognised.
>>>
>>> Can someone let me know where I'm going wrong? Can it be done?
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Martin Holmes
>> Half-Baked Software, Inc.
>> mholmes@... <mholmes%40halfbakedsoftware.com>
>>
>>
>

Thank you very much. One more question though.. Is it also possible
to set the destination directory and the start menu folder ?

--- In hotpotatoesusers@yahoogroups.com, Martin Holmes <mholmes@...>
wrote:
>
> And some more relevant stuff:
>
> /SUPPRESSMSGBOXES
> Instructs Setup to suppress message boxes. Only has an effect when
> combined with '/SILENT' and '/VERYSILENT'.
>
> The default response in situations where there's a choice is:
>
> Yes in a 'Keep newer file?' situation.
> No in a 'File exists, confirm overwrite.' situation.
> Abort in Abort/Retry situations.
> Cancel in Retry/Cancel situations.
> Yes (=continue) in a
>
DiskSpaceWarning/DirExists/DirDoesntExist/NoUninstallWarning/ExitSetup
Message/ConfirmUninstall
> situation.
> Yes (=restart) in a
FinishedRestartMessage/UninstalledAndNeedsRestart
> situation.
> 5 message boxes are not suppressible:
>
> The About Setup message box.
> The Exit Setup? message box.
> The FileNotInDir2 message box displayed when Setup requires a new
disk
> to be inserted and the disk was not found.
> Any (error) message box displayed before Setup (or Uninstall) could
read
> the command line parameters.
> Any message box displayed by [Code] support function MsgBox.
>
> So I think if you want an utterly silent installation, you could
use
> /SP- /VERYSILENT /SUPPRESSMSGBOXES.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> Martin Holmes wrote:
> >
> >
> > A few more details -- this is a quote from the InnoSetup
documentation:
> >
> > /SP-
> > Disables the This will install... Do you wish to continue? prompt
at the
> > beginning of Setup. Of course, this will have no effect if the
> > DisableStartupPrompt [Setup] section directive was set to yes.
> >
> > /SILENT, /VERYSILENT
> > Instructs Setup to be silent or very silent. When Setup is silent
the
> > wizard and the background window are not displayed but the
installation
> > progress window is. When a setup is very silent this installation
> > progress window is not displayed. Everything else is normal so for
> > example error messages during installation are displayed and the
startup
> > prompt is (if you haven't disabled it with the '/SP-' command line
> > option explained above).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Martin
> >
> > Martin Holmes wrote:
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Hi there,
> >  >
> >  > The Hot Potatoes installer is created using Inno Setup, which
has silent
> >  > setup features. If you run the setup program from the command
line using
> >  > /SILENT or /VERYSILENT switches, you'll get silent installs.
> >  >
> >  > Cheers,
> >  > Martin
> >  >
> >  > theagressor007 wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > Hi
> >  > >
> >  > > Is it possible to get HotPot to install silently on network
computers?
> >  > >
> >  > > Thx
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> > --
> > Martin Holmes
> > Half-Baked Software, Inc.
> > mholmes@... <mailto:mholmes%40halfbakedsoftware.com>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Martin Holmes
> Half-Baked Software, Inc.
> mholmes@...
>

Hi there,

First of all, Arial is not the same font as Arial Unicode MS. If you
don't have Arial Unicode MS, then you can install it from the Microsoft
Office CD. Alternatively, you could download Code2000 or Aboriginal Sans
from the Web, and use one of those.

When you've done that, let's try to get away from using a word-processor
at all; that'll help. Start JQuiz (or whatever you're using), then click
on Options / Font, and choose the font. Then start Windows Character Map
(Start / Programs / Accessories / System Tools / Character Map). Choose
the same font in the top box, and check the Advanced view checkbox. Now
browse for the characters you want, or use the search function to find
them. When you double-click a character, it will appear in the
"Characters to copy" box, and you can copy it to the clipboard from
there, and paste it into HotPot.

Then create your exercise. If it doesn't work properly, post it on the
Web and send us the URL. Also, please let us know what browser you're using.

Cheers,
Martin

Laurence Whiteside wrote:
>
>
> OK, I'm using XP so that shouldn't be the problem. I think it's that I
> wasn't using Unicode characters, as when I use Ariel, I can paste them
> in no problem. Before I was using Lucinda Sans Unicode (a bit of a
> giveaway, methinks, but it has all the characters), and pasting those in
> just gave me a blank box.
>
> The problem now is that some fonts appear not to have all the right
> symbols. Also, when I copy and paste a symbol across it sometimes comes
> out differently; for example, the symbol representing the first sound of
> "ship", when pasted comes out as a capital "G". I also tried copying and
> pasting from this web page:
> http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/ipa-unicode.htm
> <http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/ipa-unicode.htm> , but I just get
> a white box again.
>
>
>
> On 05/12/2007, * Martin Holmes* <mholmes@...
> <mailto:mholmes@...>> wrote:
>
>     Hi there,
>
>     First of all, you need to make sure you're using Unicode -- what
>     version
>     of Windows do you have? Older versions don't support Unicode properly.
>
>     Next, you need to make sure that when you Insert / Special characters,
>     you're actually inserting Unicode characters, rather than using an
>     ancient font-based system.
>
>     Finally, you need to make sure that Hot Potatoes is set to use fonts
>     which cover the Unicode ranges that you're using -- use Options / Font
>     to change the font in the interface to HotPot, and make sure the same
>     font is chosen in the Configuration screen Appearance tab. Good fonts
>     for broad Unicode support are Arial Unicode MS and Code2000.
>
>     If that still doesn't help, please create an exercise, post it on the
>     Web, and send us the URL. Also, please explain what you mean by "aren't
>     recognized".
>
>     Cheers,
>     Martin
>
>     Laurie wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      > Let me start by saying thanks for a great program!
>      >
>      > I teach phonetics to English language specialists, and would like to
>      > create some exercises like matching words with transcriptions. I
>     tries
>      > typing symbols in Word or OpenOffice though the Insert=>Special
>      > Character/Symbol menu, then copying and pasting, but often the
>      > characters aren't recognised.
>      >
>      > Can someone let me know where I'm going wrong? Can it be done?
>      >
>      >
>
>     --
>     Martin Holmes
>     Half-Baked Software, Inc.
>     mholmes@... <mailto:mholmes%40halfbakedsoftware.com>
>
>
>

--
Martin Holmes
Half-Baked Software, Inc.
mholmes@...

Hi there,

Here's the complete list of command-line switches Inno Setup uses. I
think you could make use of the /DIR and /GROUP parameters to specify
the location and start menu folder. Alternatively, you could run a
manual install with the /SAVEINF parameter to save all the settings you
choose, then run your unattended installations using /LOADINF,
specifying the file you saved.

The Setup program accepts optional command line parameters. These can be
useful to system administrators, and to other programs calling the Setup
program.

/SP-
Disables the This will install... Do you wish to continue? prompt at the
beginning of Setup. Of course, this will have no effect if the
DisableStartupPrompt [Setup] section directive was set to yes.

/SILENT, /VERYSILENT
Instructs Setup to be silent or very silent. When Setup is silent the
wizard and the background window are not displayed but the installation
progress window is. When a setup is very silent this installation
progress window is not displayed. Everything else is normal so for
example error messages during installation are displayed and the startup
prompt is (if you haven't disabled it with DisableStartupPrompt or the
'/SP-' command line option explained above).

If a restart is necessary and the '/NORESTART' command isn't used (see
below) and Setup is silent, it will display a Reboot now? message box.
If it's very silent it will reboot without asking.

/SUPPRESSMSGBOXES
Instructs Setup to suppress message boxes. Only has an effect when
combined with '/SILENT' and '/VERYSILENT'.

The default response in situations where there's a choice is:

Yes in a 'Keep newer file?' situation.
No in a 'File exists, confirm overwrite.' situation.
Abort in Abort/Retry situations.
Cancel in Retry/Cancel situations.
Yes (=continue) in a
DiskSpaceWarning/DirExists/DirDoesntExist/NoUninstallWarning/ExitSetupMessage/Co\
nfirmUninstall
situation.
Yes (=restart) in a FinishedRestartMessage/UninstalledAndNeedsRestart
situation.
5 message boxes are not suppressible:

The About Setup message box.
The Exit Setup? message box.
The FileNotInDir2 message box displayed when Setup requires a new disk
to be inserted and the disk was not found.
Any (error) message box displayed before Setup (or Uninstall) could read
the command line parameters.
Any message box displayed by [Code] support function MsgBox.
/LOG
Causes Setup to create a log file in the user's TEMP directory detailing
file installation and [Run] actions taken during the installation
process. This can be a helpful debugging aid. For example, if you
suspect a file isn't being replaced when you believe it should be (or
vice versa), the log file will tell you if the file was really skipped,
and why.

The log file is created with a unique name based on the current date.
(It will not overwrite or append to existing files.)

The information contained in the log file is technical in nature and
therefore not intended to be understandable by end users. Nor is it
designed to be machine-parseable; the format of the file is subject to
change without notice.

/LOG="filename"
Same as /LOG, except it allows you to specify a fixed path/filename to
use for the log file. If a file with the specified name already exists
it will be overwritten. If the file cannot be created, Setup will abort
with an error message.

/NOCANCEL
Prevents the user from cancelling during the installation process, by
disabling the Cancel button and ignoring clicks on the close button.
Useful along with '/SILENT' or '/VERYSILENT'.

/NORESTART
Instructs Setup not to reboot even if it's necessary.

/RESTARTEXITCODE=exit code
Specifies the custom exit code that Setup is to return when a restart is
needed. Useful along with '/NORESTART'. Also see Setup Exit Codes.

/LOADINF="filename"
Instructs Setup to load the settings from the specified file after
having checked the command line. This file can be prepared using the
'/SAVEINF=' command as explained below.

Don't forget to use quotes if the filename contains spaces.

/SAVEINF="filename"
Instructs Setup to save installation settings to the specified file.

Don't forget to use quotes if the filename contains spaces.

/LANG=language
Specifies the language to use. language specifies the internal name of
the language as specified in a [Languages] section entry.

When a valid /LANG parameter is used, the Select Language dialog will be
suppressed.

/DIR="x:\dirname"
Overrides the default directory name displayed on the Select Destination
Location wizard page. A fully qualified pathname must be specified.

/GROUP="folder name"
Overrides the default folder name displayed on the Select Start Menu
Folder wizard page. If the [Setup] section directive
DisableProgramGroupPage was set to yes, this command line parameter is
ignored.

/NOICONS
Instructs Setup to initially check the Don't create a Start Menu folder
check box on the Select Start Menu Folder wizard page.

/TYPE=type name
Overrides the default setup type.

If the specified type exists and isn't a custom type, then any
/COMPONENTS parameter will be ignored.

/COMPONENTS="comma separated list of component names"
Overrides the default component settings. Using this command line
parameter causes Setup to automatically select a custom type. If no
custom type is defined, this parameter is ignored.

Only the specified components will be selected; the rest will be deselected.

If a component name is prefixed with a "*" character, any child
components will be selected as well (except for those that include the
dontinheritcheck flag). If a component name is prefixed with a "!"
character, the component will be deselected.

This parameter does not change the state of components that include the
fixed flag.

Example:
Deselect all components, then select the "help" and "plugins" components:
/COMPONENTS="help,plugins" Example:
Deselect all components, then select a parent component and all of its
children with the exception of one:
/COMPONENTS="*parent,!parent\child"
/TASKS="comma separated list of task names"
Specifies a list of tasks that should be initially selected.

Only the specified tasks will be selected; the rest will be deselected.
Use the /MERGETASKS parameter instead if you want to keep the default
set of tasks and only select/deselect some of them.

If a task name is prefixed with a "*" character, any child tasks will be
selected as well (except for those that include the dontinheritcheck
flag). If a task name is prefixed with a "!" character, the task will be
deselected.

Example:
Deselect all tasks, then select the "desktopicon" and "fileassoc" tasks:
/TASKS="desktopicon,fileassoc" Example:
Deselect all tasks, then select a parent task and all of its children
with the exception of one:
/TASKS="*parent,!parent\child"
/MERGETASKS="comma separated list of task names"
Like the /TASKS parameter, except the specified tasks will be merged
with the set of tasks that would have otherwise been selected by default.

If UsePreviousTasks is set to yes, the specified tasks will be
selected/deselected after any previous tasks are restored.

Example:
Keep the default set of selected tasks, but additionally select the
"desktopicon" and "fileassoc" tasks:
/MERGETASKS="desktopicon,fileassoc" Example:
Keep the default set of selected tasks, but deselect the "desktopicon" task:
/MERGETASKS="!desktopicon"
/PASSWORD=password
Specifies the password to use. If the [Setup] section directive Password
was not set, this command line parameter is ignored.

When an invalid password is specified, this command line parameter is
also ignored.


Cheers,
Martin



theagressor007 wrote:
>
>
> Thank you very much. One more question though.. Is it also possible
> to set the destination directory & start menu folder and not have
> HotPot launched after the installation?
>
> --- In hotpotatoesusers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:hotpotatoesusers%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Holmes <mholmes@...>
> wrote:
>  >
>  > And some more relevant stuff:
>  >
>  > /SUPPRESSMSGBOXES
>  > Instructs Setup to suppress message boxes. Only has an effect when
>  > combined with '/SILENT' and '/VERYSILENT'.
>  >
>  > The default response in situations where there's a choice is:
>  >
>  > Yes in a 'Keep newer file?' situation.
>  > No in a 'File exists, confirm overwrite.' situation.
>  > Abort in Abort/Retry situations.
>  > Cancel in Retry/Cancel situations.
>  > Yes (=continue) in a
>  >
> DiskSpaceWarning/DirExists/DirDoesntExist/NoUninstallWarning/ExitSetup
> Message/ConfirmUninstall
>  > situation.
>  > Yes (=restart) in a
> FinishedRestartMessage/UninstalledAndNeedsRestart
>  > situation.
>  > 5 message boxes are not suppressible:
>  >
>  > The About Setup message box.
>  > The Exit Setup? message box.
>  > The FileNotInDir2 message box displayed when Setup requires a new
> disk
>  > to be inserted and the disk was not found.
>  > Any (error) message box displayed before Setup (or Uninstall) could
> read
>  > the command line parameters.
>  > Any message box displayed by [Code] support function MsgBox.
>  >
>  > So I think if you want an utterly silent installation, you could
> use
>  > /SP- /VERYSILENT /SUPPRESSMSGBOXES.
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  > Martin
>  >
>  > Martin Holmes wrote:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > A few more details -- this is a quote from the InnoSetup
> documentation:
>  > >
>  > > /SP-
>  > > Disables the This will install... Do you wish to continue? prompt
> at the
>  > > beginning of Setup. Of course, this will have no effect if the
>  > > DisableStartupPrompt [Setup] section directive was set to yes.
>  > >
>  > > /SILENT, /VERYSILENT
>  > > Instructs Setup to be silent or very silent. When Setup is silent
> the
>  > > wizard and the background window are not displayed but the
> installation
>  > > progress window is. When a setup is very silent this installation
>  > > progress window is not displayed. Everything else is normal so for
>  > > example error messages during installation are displayed and the
> startup
>  > > prompt is (if you haven't disabled it with the '/SP-' command line
>  > > option explained above).
>  > >
>  > > Cheers,
>  > > Martin
>  > >
>  > > Martin Holmes wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > Hi there,
>  > > >
>  > > > The Hot Potatoes installer is created using Inno Setup, which
> has silent
>  > > > setup features. If you run the setup program from the command
> line using
>  > > > /SILENT or /VERYSILENT switches, you'll get silent installs.
>  > > >
>  > > > Cheers,
>  > > > Martin
>  > > >
>  > > > theagressor007 wrote:
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Hi
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Is it possible to get HotPot to install silently on network
> computers?
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Thx
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > Martin Holmes
>  > > Half-Baked Software, Inc.
>  > > mholmes@... <mailto:mholmes%40halfbakedsoftware.com>
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Martin Holmes
>  > Half-Baked Software, Inc.
>  > mholmes@...
>  >
>
>

--
Martin Holmes
Half-Baked Software, Inc.
mholmes@...

Hi there,

Here's the complete list of command-line switches Inno Setup uses. I
think you could make use of the /DIR and /GROUP parameters to specify
the location and start menu folder. Alternatively, you could run a
manual install with the /SAVEINF parameter to save all the settings you
choose, then run your unattended installations using /LOADINF,
specifying the file you saved.

The Setup program accepts optional command line parameters. These can be
useful to system administrators, and to other programs calling the Setup
program.

/SP-
Disables the This will install... Do you wish to continue? prompt at the
beginning of Setup. Of course, this will have no effect if the
DisableStartupPrompt [Setup] section directive was set to yes.

/SILENT, /VERYSILENT
Instructs Setup to be silent or very silent. When Setup is silent the
wizard and the background window are not displayed but the installation
progress window is. When a setup is very silent this installation
progress window is not displayed. Everything else is normal so for
example error messages during installation are displayed and the startup
prompt is (if you haven't disabled it with DisableStartupPrompt or the
'/SP-' command line option explained above).

If a restart is necessary and the '/NORESTART' command isn't used (see
below) and Setup is silent, it will display a Reboot now? message box.
If it's very silent it will reboot without asking.

/SUPPRESSMSGBOXES
Instructs Setup to suppress message boxes. Only has an effect when
combined with '/SILENT' and '/VERYSILENT'.

The default response in situations where there's a choice is:

Yes in a 'Keep newer file?' situation.
No in a 'File exists, confirm overwrite.' situation.
Abort in Abort/Retry situations.
Cancel in Retry/Cancel situations.
Yes (=continue) in a
DiskSpaceWarning/DirExists/DirDoesntExist/NoUninstallWarning/ExitSetupMessage/ConfirmUninstall
situation.
Yes (=restart) in a FinishedRestartMessage/UninstalledAndNeedsRestart
situation.
5 message boxes are not suppressible:

The About Setup message box.
The Exit Setup? message box.
The FileNotInDir2 message box displayed when Setup requires a new disk
to be inserted and the disk was not found.
Any (error) message box displayed before Setup (or Uninstall) could read
the command line parameters.
Any message box displayed by [Code] support function MsgBox.
/LOG
Causes Setup to create a log file in the user's TEMP directory detailing
file installation and [Run] actions taken during the installation
process. This can be a helpful debugging aid. For example, if you
suspect a file isn't being replaced when you believe it should be (or
vice versa), the log file will tell you if the file was really skipped,
and why.

The log file is created with a unique name based on the current date.
(It will not overwrite or append to existing files.)

The information contained in the log file is technical in nature and
therefore not intended to be understandable by end users. Nor is it
designed to be machine-parseable; the format of the file is subject to
change without notice.

/LOG="filename"
Same as /LOG, except it allows you to specify a fixed path/filename to
use for the log file. If a file with the specified name already exists
it will be overwritten. If the file cannot be created, Setup will abort
with an error message.

/NOCANCEL
Prevents the user from cancelling during the installation process, by
disabling the Cancel button and ignoring clicks on the close button.
Useful along with '/SILENT' or '/VERYSILENT'.

/NORESTART
Instructs Setup not to reboot even if it's necessary.

/RESTARTEXITCODE=exit code
Specifies the custom exit code that Setup is to return when a restart is
needed. Useful along with '/NORESTART'. Also see Setup Exit Codes.

/LOADINF="filename"
Instructs Setup to load the settings from the specified file after
having checked the command line. This file can be prepared using the
'/SAVEINF=' command as explained below.

Don't forget to use quotes if the filename contains spaces.

/SAVEINF="filename"
Instructs Setup to save installation settings to the specified file.

Don't forget to use quotes if the filename contains spaces.

/LANG=language
Specifies the language to use. language specifies the internal name of
the language as specified in a [Languages] section entry.

When a valid /LANG parameter is used, the Select Language dialog will be
suppressed.

/DIR="x:\dirname"
Overrides the default directory name displayed on the Select Destination
Location wizard page. A fully qualified pathname must be specified.

/GROUP="folder name"
Overrides the default folder name displayed on the Select Start Menu
Folder wizard page. If the [Setup] section directive
DisableProgramGroupPage was set to yes, this command line parameter is
ignored.

/NOICONS
Instructs Setup to initially check the Don't create a Start Menu folder
check box on the Select Start Menu Folder wizard page.

/TYPE=type name
Overrides the default setup type.

If the specified type exists and isn't a custom type, then any
/COMPONENTS parameter will be ignored.

/COMPONENTS="comma separated list of component names"
Overrides the default component settings. Using this command line
parameter causes Setup to automatically select a custom type. If no
custom type is defined, this parameter is ignored.

Only the specified components will be selected; the rest will be deselected.

If a component name is prefixed with a "*" character, any child
components will be selected as well (except for those that include the
dontinheritcheck flag). If a component name is prefixed with a "!"
character, the component will be deselected.

This parameter does not change the state of components that include the
fixed flag.

Example:
Deselect all components, then select the "help" and "plugins" components:
/COMPONENTS="help,plugins" Example:
Deselect all components, then select a parent component and all of its
children with the exception of one:
/COMPONENTS="*parent,!parent\child"
/TASKS="comma separated list of task names"
Specifies a list of tasks that should be initially selected.

Only the specified tasks will be selected; the rest will be deselected.
Use the /MERGETASKS parameter instead if you want to keep the default
set of tasks and only select/deselect some of them.

If a task name is prefixed with a "*" character, any child tasks will be
selected as well (except for those that include the dontinheritcheck
flag). If a task name is prefixed with a "!" character, the task will be
deselected.

Example:
Deselect all tasks, then select the "desktopicon" and "fileassoc" tasks:
/TASKS="desktopicon,fileassoc" Example:
Deselect all tasks, then select a parent task and all of its children
with the exception of one:
/TASKS="*parent,!parent\child"
/MERGETASKS="comma separated list of task names"
Like the /TASKS parameter, except the specified tasks will be merged
with the set of tasks that would have otherwise been selected by default.

If UsePreviousTasks is set to yes, the specified tasks will be
selected/deselected after any previous tasks are restored.

Example:
Keep the default set of selected tasks, but additionally select the
"desktopicon" and "fileassoc" tasks:
/MERGETASKS="desktopicon,fileassoc" Example:
Keep the default set of selected tasks, but deselect the "desktopicon" task:
/MERGETASKS="!desktopicon"
/PASSWORD=password
Specifies the password to use. If the [Setup] section directive Password
was not set, this command line parameter is ignored.

When an invalid password is specified, this command line parameter is
also ignored.

Cheers,
Martin

theagressor007 wrote:
>
>
> Thank you very much. One more question though.. Is it also possible
> to set the destination directory & start menu folder and not have
> HotPot launched after the installation?
>
> --- In hotpotatoesusers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:hotpotatoesusers%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Holmes <mholmes@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > And some more relevant stuff:
> >
> > /SUPPRESSMSGBOXES
> > Instructs Setup to suppress message boxes. Only has an effect when
> > combined with '/SILENT' and '/VERYSILENT'.
> >
> > The default response in situations where there's a choice is:
> >
> > Yes in a 'Keep newer file?' situation.
> > No in a 'File exists, confirm overwrite.' situation.
> > Abort in Abort/Retry situations.
> > Cancel in Retry/Cancel situations.
> > Yes (=continue) in a
> >
> DiskSpaceWarning/DirExists/DirDoesntExist/NoUninstallWarning/ExitSetup
> Message/ConfirmUninstall
> > situation.
> > Yes (=restart) in a
> FinishedRestartMessage/UninstalledAndNeedsRestart
> > situation.
> > 5 message boxes are not suppressible:
> >
> > The About Setup message box.
> > The Exit Setup? message box.
> > The FileNotInDir2 message box displayed when Setup requires a new
> disk
> > to be inserted and the disk was not found.
> > Any (error) message box displayed before Setup (or Uninstall) could
> read
> > the command line parameters.
> > Any message box displayed by [Code] support function MsgBox.
> >
> > So I think if you want an utterly silent installation, you could
> use
> > /SP- /VERYSILENT /SUPPRESSMSGBOXES.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Martin
> >
> > Martin Holmes wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > A few more details -- this is a quote from the InnoSetup
> documentation:
> > >
> > > /SP-
> > > Disables the This will install... Do you wish to continue? prompt
> at the
> > > beginning of Setup. Of course, this will have no effect if the
> > > DisableStartupPrompt [Setup] section directive was set to yes.
> > >
> > > /SILENT, /VERYSILENT
> > > Instructs Setup to be silent or very silent. When Setup is silent
> the
> > > wizard and the background window are not displayed but the
> installation
> > > progress window is. When a setup is very silent this installation
> > > progress window is not displayed. Everything else is normal so for
> > > example error messages during installation are displayed and the
> startup
> > > prompt is (if you haven't disabled it with the '/SP-' command line
> > > option explained above).
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > Martin Holmes wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi there,
> > > >
> > > > The Hot Potatoes installer is created using Inno Setup, which
> has silent
> > > > setup features. If you run the setup program from the command
> line using
> > > > /SILENT or /VERYSILENT switches, you'll get silent installs.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > > theagressor007 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible to get HotPot to install silently on network
> computers?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Martin Holmes
> > > Half-Baked Software, Inc.
> > > mholmes@... <mailto:mholmes%40halfbakedsoftware.com>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Martin Holmes
> > Half-Baked Software, Inc.
> > mholmes@...
> >
>
>

--
Martin Holmes
Half-Baked Software, Inc.
mholmes@halfbakedsoftware.com

silvestre

I can't find the registration in the help menu

Hi there,

That means you've already registered. If you click on Help / About,
you'll see the name under which the program is regstered.

Cheers,
Martin

eshnav1 wrote:
>
>
> I can't find the registration in the help menu
>
>

--
Martin Holmes
Half-Baked Software, Inc.
mholmes@...

I want to know why my picture not upload to the net when i publish my
work?

thanks, orit

Many thanks, Martin. Your solution worked a treat!

Laurence

--- In hotpotatoesusers@yahoogroups.com, Martin Holmes <mholmes@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> First of all, Arial is not the same font as Arial Unicode MS. If you
> don't have Arial Unicode MS, then you can install it from the Microsoft
> Office CD. Alternatively, you could download Code2000 or Aboriginal
Sans
> from the Web, and use one of those.
>
> When you've done that, let's try to get away from using a
word-processor
> at all; that'll help. Start JQuiz (or whatever you're using), then
click
> on Options / Font, and choose the font. Then start Windows Character
Map
> (Start / Programs / Accessories / System Tools / Character Map). Choose
> the same font in the top box, and check the Advanced view checkbox. Now
> browse for the characters you want, or use the search function to find
> them. When you double-click a character, it will appear in the
> "Characters to copy" box, and you can copy it to the clipboard from
> there, and paste it into HotPot.
>
> Then create your exercise. If it doesn't work properly, post it on the
> Web and send us the URL. Also, please let us know what browser
you're using.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin

Hi there,

Did you upload your picture to the server? What server are you using?
How are you "publishing" your work? Could you send us the URL of your
exercise?

If you want to get effective help, you'll have to provide us with enough
information so that we can help you. Tell us exactly what you're doing,
and how you're doing it, and send us the URL of the exercise, along with
an explanation of what you think is wrong.

Cheers,
Martin

eshnav1 wrote:
>
>
> I want to know why my picture not upload to the net when i publish my
> work?
>
> thanks, orit
>
>

Bonjour,
J'utilise les addons créés par Martin Holmes depuis longtemps et je
veux avant tout autre chose le remercier pour son travail
(http://platea.pntic.mec.es/~cvera/hotpot/exos/index.htm).

Je viens d'acherter un portable avec Windows vista et la fenêtre qui
devrait apparaître lorsqu'on tape Ctrl Alt Shift S, afin de changer la
source, et créer d'autres activités, n'apparaît pas.
Je voudrais savoir si ce problème arrive avec Vista ou c'est mon
nouvel ordinateur, qui ne fonctionne pas bien.

Merci d'avance.
Excusez mon anglais.
Cordialement,
Carmen

Hello,
I work with Martin Holmes addons for a long time
(http://platea.pntic.mec.es/~cvera/hotpot/exos/index.htm).
I can't use them with my Vista computer.
Do you know if it is impossible to open de window with Vista or it is
a problem of my computer?
Is there another computer keyboard shortcut for Vista if I want to
open the window to change the source?
Thank you.
Carmen

Estimado señor:
Utilizo los addons que permiten enriquecer las posibilidades de Hot
Potatoes desde hace tiempo y le agradezco su trabajo.
Acabo de comprar un nuevo ordenador, con Windoes Vista y la
combinación de teclas que permite cambiar la source no se abre.
Con otro Vista sí se abre. ¿Cree que es un problema del sistema
operativo o quizás de mi ordenador?

Le agradezo su ayuda.
Reciba un saludo muy cordial,
Carmen Vera

Hi there,

If you have the latest version of Hot Potatoes, you'll find a new item
on the Options menu to change the source files. Control+Alt+Shift+S
should still work, but if it doesn't work on your computer, you can use
the menu instead.

Cheers,
Martin

carmen_vera2005 wrote:
>
>
> Bonjour,
> J'utilise les addons créés par Martin Holmes depuis longtemps et je
> veux avant tout autre chose le remercier pour son travail
> (http://platea.pntic.mec.es/~cvera/hotpot/exos/index.htm
> <http://platea.pntic.mec.es/~cvera/hotpot/exos/index.htm>).
>
> Je viens d'acherter un portable avec Windows vista et la fenêtre qui
> devrait apparaître lorsqu'on tape Ctrl Alt Shift S, afin de changer la
> source, et créer d'autres activités, n'apparaît pas.
> Je voudrais savoir si ce problème arrive avec Vista ou c'est mon
> nouvel ordinateur, qui ne fonctionne pas bien.
>
> Merci d'avance.
> Excusez mon anglais.
> Cordialement,
> Carmen
>
> Hello,
> I work with Martin Holmes addons for a long time
> (http://platea.pntic.mec.es/~cvera/hotpot/exos/index.htm
> <http://platea.pntic.mec.es/~cvera/hotpot/exos/index.htm>).
> I can't use them with my Vista computer.
> Do you know if it is impossible to open de window with Vista or it is
> a problem of my computer?
> Is there another computer keyboard shortcut for Vista if I want to
> open the window to change the source?
> Thank you.
> Carmen
>
> Estimado señor:
> Utilizo los addons que permiten enriquecer las posibilidades de Hot
> Potatoes desde hace tiempo y le agradezco su trabajo.
> Acabo de comprar un nuevo ordenador, con Windoes Vista y la
> combinación de teclas que permite cambiar la source no se abre.
> Con otro Vista sí se abre. ¿Cree que es un problema del sistema
> operativo o quizás de mi ordenador?
>
> Le agradezo su ayuda.
> Reciba un saludo muy cordial,
> Carmen Vera
>
>

Hi there,

There are two remedies for this: first of all, CSS provides a really
good system for providing a list of alternative fonts, in a "fallback
sequence". If you put this in your Configuration / Appearance / font box:

"Arial Unicode MS", Code2000, "Aboriginal Sans", "Lucida Sans Unicode",
"Lucida Grande", sans-serif

then the Web browser will look for each of those fonts on the user's
computer, and use the first one it finds. If it finds none of them, it
should fall back to the generic "sans-serif".

Secondly, if it's a GOOD web browser, if it's using a font which doesn't
have a character it needs to display, it will find another font on the
system which does have this character, and use that.

So by careful selection of the fonts in the fallback sequence, you can
give your users a good chance of seeing the characters correctly. Don't
forget to include a couple of Mac and Linux fonts in the list, if your
characters are particularly obscure.

Cheers,
Martin

Grainge, Derek wrote:
>
>
> Please excuse me chipping in.
>
> If you had to install Arial Unicode MS, you may find that the quiz
> displays properly on your machine and not on another.   *You'll* see the
> quiz correctly because you have the font.  Others may not.   In a closed
> environment like a school, it's not likely to be a problem, but if
> placing the quiz on a public server, you may find some people don't see
> the symbols you expect.   Because you're using unicode, in theory you
> should see something appropriate; but not all fonts support unicode.
>
> This is nothing to do with Hot Potatoes, it's the way Web browsers work
> - as a designer you are dependent on the fonts installed on the client's
> computer.   And that's why so many web designers use fairly boring fonts
> like Arial, Helvetica, Verdana and the like.
>
> sorry to cause further confusion - best to get someone somewhere else to
> view the page to see if it's OK.
>
> Derek
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* hotpotatoesusers@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:hotpotatoesusers@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Laurie
> *Sent:* 08 December 2007 16:52
> *To:* hotpotatoesusers@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [hotpotatoesusers] Re: Inserting phonetic symbols
>
> Many thanks, Martin. Your solution worked a treat!
>
> Laurence
>
> --- In hotpotatoesusers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:hotpotatoesusers%40yahoogroups.com>, Martin Holmes <mholmes@...>
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi there,
>  >
>  > First of all, Arial is not the same font as Arial Unicode MS. If you
>  > don't have Arial Unicode MS, then you can install it from the Microsoft
>  > Office CD. Alternatively, you could download Code2000 or Aboriginal
> Sans
>  > from the Web, and use one of those.
>  >
>  > When you've done that, let's try to get away from using a
> word-processor
>  > at all; that'll help. Start JQuiz (or whatever you're using), then
> click
>  > on Options / Font, and choose the font. Then start Windows Character
> Map
>  > (Start / Programs / Accessories / System Tools / Character Map). Choose
>  > the same font in the top box, and check the Advanced view checkbox. Now
>  > browse for the characters you want, or use the search function to find
>  > them. When you double-click a character, it will appear in the
>  > "Characters to copy" box, and you can copy it to the clipboard from
>  > there, and paste it into HotPot.
>  >
>  > Then create your exercise. If it doesn't work properly, post it on the
>  > Web and send us the URL. Also, please let us know what browser
> you're using.
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  > Martin
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi,

seen this - HTML5 ?!
<http://www.alistapart.com/articles/previewofhtml5>

Stan

i want to know in jcross
how i can change the diraction of the word in the cross becouse in
hebrew we write from right to left

Hi there,

I like a lot of the ideas in this, but a couple of things worry me:
first, I think it will need to be well-formed XML as well as HTML (HTML
4 wasn't), and here I read:

"Note that like previous versions of HTML, some tags are optional and
are automatically implied."

This is a silly idea, and I hope they re-think it. Secondly, I don't
think IE will ever be updated to support this properly; I believe that
Microsoft makes a point of implementing new standards badly on purpose,
and by introducing this, we divert attention from the job of badgering
MS to implement XHTML and CSS 2.1 properly, which is hard enough.

Also, I'd like to see XHTML 2.0 finished. It's been eight years since
XHTML 1.

Cheers,
Martin

Stan Bogdanov wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> seen this - HTML5 ?!
> <http://www.alistapart.com/articles/previewofhtml5
> <http://www.alistapart.com/articles/previewofhtml5>>
>
> Stan
>
>

--
Martin Holmes
Half-Baked Software, Inc.
mholmes@...