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Replacement for HP Advanced Photo Paper Satin-Matt from HP   Message List  
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Re: [hp9100Series] Re: Replacement for HP Advanced Photo Paper Satin-Matt from HP

On 02/04/2012 07:31 PM, Seymour Remen wrote:
> Do check into MOAB Lasel Exhibition 300 paper (13"x19"). It's a
> beautiful paper -- also satin surface and a fitting upgrade from HP
> Satin Matte. The MOAB paper profile for this paper for the B9180 woks
> perfectly. The paper has no marking on the reverse side.

That one I did not get so far. The Moab Lasal Photo Luster of 270 gsm
shows identical plots to the European Canon EU Glacier Photo Quality
1929B 300gsm which should be equal to the USA Canon Heavyweight Satin
Photographic 300gsm though my plots show some small differences. The
last paper showed the best fade resistance of all RC papers in
Aardenburg testing (Canon pigments though) including the stability of
the paper white. That new 300gsm Moab paper could be another one from
the same source both Moab and Canon use. Keep an eye on them and it
would be nice if more are tested at Aardenburg. The Canon Heavyweight
is, if fade resistance matters, right now the best choice in brighter RC
papers.

I use an Epson Proofing White Semi-Matte 256 gsm with little or no OBA
content but a high white reflectance as a warmer RC paper. Wide gamut
too with Z3200 inks and Epson uses the gamut quote in its advertising
for all x900 wide formats. Window testing tells me that it does not
shift paper white color either. Would be nice to have that one tested
independently.

Of the HP RC papers for pigment inks the HP Professional Satin Photo,
300gsm, is the only one tested at Aardenburg (Z3100 inks) and its paper
white shifted fast and deep. Many liked the print quality and the
surface but it is certainly not pro in the paper white. New tests are
done with Z3200 inks and it shows the same issue in the early stages of
the test.


--
met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
Shareware too:
330+ paper white spectral plots:
http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm





Sun Feb 5, 2012 11:26 am

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Hello everybody, due to my search for photo papers I found a paer from HP which can be treated as a replacement for the discontinued advanced satin-matt paper....
Wolfgang Exler
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Jan 31, 2012
9:44 am

Hi Wolfgang Thank you for this very usefull information Regards Mads Denmark Mads Henriksen www.scorpios.dk mail@... Blog: ...
Mads Henriksen
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Jan 31, 2012
2:29 pm

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the HP Premium Plus line of papers is suitable only for dye based printers and not pigment ink based printer.  HP...
Arvind Kathuria
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Jan 31, 2012
2:38 pm

I remember in the early days of the 9180 the premium papers were not recommended for pigment based printers, if they've changed that I'd like to know.  I've...
Bryan Ramsay
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Jan 31, 2012
3:04 pm

... I realize that some of the people in the discussion are in Europe, but here in the US I have found Red River UltraPro Satin to be a satisfactory...
Tom Judd
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Jan 31, 2012
3:15 pm

Red River Arctic Polar Luster is an AMAZING paper. I would not recommend ANY premium plus paper by HP. The results are absolute garbage. The RR paper does not...
skobdu
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Jan 31, 2012
3:22 pm

Also, Red River does have downloadable ICC profiles for a variety of printers. Aron From: skobdu Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:21 AM To:...
skobdu
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Jan 31, 2012
3:30 pm

... Based on the above, I printed a recent photo on a sheet of Arctic Polar Luster that I happened to have. Comparing it to the same photo recently printed on...
Tom Judd
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Jan 31, 2012
4:50 pm

... The spectral plot of the Red River UltraPro at least shows similarities with most HP wide format RC (semi)gloss papers. The Red River Artic Polar is...
Ernst Dinkla
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Jan 31, 2012
9:13 pm

... HP does not make it clear in the specs of this paper that it is only dye compatible. There are several papers in the catalog for HP pigment wide formats...
Ernst Dinkla
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Jan 31, 2012
3:27 pm

Hi Ernst, ... please send me your address off list and I will forward some sheets to you. Also, I assume you can order this new paper in your area if you look...
Wolfgang Exler
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Feb 1, 2012
6:51 am

... I found your address on your website. Is that address in netherlands still current? If so, I'll order a sample of this papers and will give your address as...
Wolfgang Exler
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Feb 1, 2012
7:24 am

... Wolfgang, That is still the address. If HP still has sample packs for the B9180 then I should be able to make that request myself but I am not familiar...
Ernst Dinkla
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Feb 1, 2012
10:42 am

Hi everybody, something is going wrong here. The paper I have is labeled HP Premium Plus Photo Paper Semi-gloss 300gsm. I provided a link to Amazon where I...
Wolfgang Exler
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Feb 1, 2012
6:46 am

Based on this HP reply to a review from your provided link I think they changed it to be similar to the "Advanced" photo paper and made for pigment ink. Notice...
dyno
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Feb 1, 2012
6:56 am

... amazing! You posted excactly the same text as I did, so this is proof of evidence that you did not read my post. At least not the complete post. Why do...
Wolfgang Exler
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Feb 1, 2012
7:05 am

whoops! I didn't go far enough down... I did reach the same conclusion though :-) ... **************************************************************** Always...
dyno
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Feb 1, 2012
7:10 am

I just went to the HP web site, and sure enough, HP is marketing a new paper with different chemistry, marked Instant Dry as HP Premium Plus. Apparently, the...
Arvind Kathuria
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Feb 1, 2012
3:49 pm

... I looked for some press release obout that paper change but I could not find anything relating. ... Yes, I was wondering about these reviews. From my...
Wolfgang Exler
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Feb 2, 2012
7:16 am

... For the Z3100 etc wide formats there are HP Premium Instant-Dry Satin and Premium Instant-Dry Gloss, both 260 gsm, both RC. I use them. The disadvantage is...
Ernst Dinkla
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Feb 2, 2012
9:16 am

... I have access to a Z2100 also and I know thes HP papers mentioned by Ernst. In general on the Z2100 I prefer to use HP Everyday Pigment Ink Satin Photo...
Wolfgang Exler
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Feb 2, 2012
3:02 pm

Do check into MOAB Lasel Exhibition 300 paper (13"x19").  It's a beautiful paper -- also satin surface and a fitting upgrade from HP Satin Matte.  The MOAB...
Seymour Remen
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Feb 4, 2012
6:31 pm

... That one I did not get so far. The Moab Lasal Photo Luster of 270 gsm shows identical plots to the European Canon EU Glacier Photo Quality 1929B 300gsm...
Ernst Dinkla
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Feb 5, 2012
11:26 am

Wasn't HP Premium paper a no-no with pigment ink or is this a new paper whose coating is ok for pigment ink? I thought that one was supposed to only use HP...
bksldr7 Offline Send Email Jan 31, 2012
5:04 pm

yes you are correct. the premium plus papers look terrible! I would highly advise against using them. From: bksldr7 Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:04 AM To:...
skobdu
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Feb 1, 2012
12:00 am

... how old ist oyur expericene? Hav you noticed that HP changed the paper? Did your read my post and verify the links I provided? Wolfgang...
Wolfgang Exler
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Feb 1, 2012
6:54 am

hey wolfgang. my experience is a couple of years old. I should have clarified this. when printing a white area there was a definite distinction where color was...
skobdu
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Feb 1, 2012
4:33 pm
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