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#32 From: "frags02" <frag01@...>
Date: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: Kirkland photo paper
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Unfortunately that paper will not work on the HPB9180 as it is a
'swellable' paper similar to the Ilford Classic series. Worked great
on my Canon i9900 (Dye Ink) but won't work at all for your B9180. Lots
of threads on Dpreview.com on papers to use with this printer. It
seems that as of now the best results are being obtained with the HP
Advanced papers, but others are being tested and results reported on.


--- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Udstrand"
<gudstrand.list@...> wrote:
>
> I was at Costco yesterday and grabbed a pack of the Kirkland Pro
Glossy Ink
> jet Paper.  It says it is compatible with all ink jet printers but I
imagine
> it is compatible with all dye based printers.  Anyway, I had seen
mention of
> this paper being used in the 2400 with good results so I thought I would
> give it a try.  At $14.00 for 150 8x10 sheets I thought it was worth a
> shot.   Cheap way for me to experiment and learn about the printer
without
> wasting expensive paper. :-)
>
> It is a long shot, but has anyone else tried this paper?  Any
suggestions on
> which profile to start with?
>
> Thanks
> --
> -Gary
>

#31 From: "frags02" <frag01@...>
Date: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:18 pm
Subject: How to add custom papers on a Mac
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Whenever I try to add custom papers I wind up with a dialog box that
says that the printer is set up to use the printer setup utility but
the button to launch the utility is greyed out. Are there any Mac
users out there that can tell me how to add custom papers?

Thanks in advance for any assistance...

Frag

#30 From: "joeymondello" <musicandlight@...>
Date: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:47 pm
Subject: Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl
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Early experiences printing from Aperture 1.5

First print using HP Advanced Photo Soft Gloss profile in both Aperture's dialog
and in the
Printer Settings dialog: Color and detail are very good, but some banding,
pooling and a
weird rectangular "shadow" effect in the gloss. Noticeable up close but not from
a few feet
away.

Second print, selected HP Advanced Photo Satin-Matte profiles in both dialogs
and moved the
INK slider all the way left to LIGHT. Resulted in no banding, no pooling, not as
deep blacks
and a slight magenta shift.

HTH.

#29 From: "imbrian1208" <imbrian1208@...>
Date: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:11 pm
Subject: Re: Lightroom, PS or QImage
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--- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Udstrand"
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> I have tried printing from all three apps with mixed results.  The
worst was
> Lightroom and I suspect that I had something set incorrectly.
With all the
> apps I set the paper profile within the application and set the
driver to
> application managed color, is this the correct/best way to set the
profile
> or should I set the profile in the driver?
>
> Thanks
> --
> -Gary
>
I have the same problem with Lightroom, I get good a good match with
PSP/X and PSCS but very odd results from Lightroom.

I suspect it may be something to do with the fact that Lightroom is
still a Beta?

Brian

#28 From: "joeymondello" <musicandlight@...>
Date: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:50 pm
Subject: Re: 9180 and Apple Aperture
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--- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "douchida" <douchida@...> wrote:
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> --- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "joeymondello"
> <musicandlight@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "palitig8r" <daniel.harris@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any experience printing on the B9180 with
> Aperture?
> > > I've got my printer arriving on Monday and would love to hear any
> > > experiences.
> > >
> >
> > I'm new to all of this and so my experience is minimal, but I've
> definitely found that printing
> > from Aperture and using the HP print center in CS2 yield wildly
> different results.
> >
> > Prints out of Aperture at the default settings are dark and drab
> compared to the calibrated
> > screen. Prints from CS2 are far better but a bit lighter than what
> I see on screen.
> >
> > I need a primer on profiling which is why I joined this group.
> >
>
> I use the Application Managed Colors option to get good results
> from Aperture. Set the printer driver's Color menu to
> Application Managed Colors, ensure the the correct media type is
> selected, and set the appropriate ICC profile in
> the ColorSync Profile menu.
>
> Regards
>
Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a try.

Right now I am rebuilding the Library because Aperture 1.5 is pulling a rather
disconcerting *disappearing act* whenever I click on a large project.

#27 From: "Gary Udstrand" <gudstrand.list@...>
Date: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:52 pm
Subject: Lightroom, PS or QImage
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I have tried printing from all three apps with mixed results.  The worst was Lightroom and I suspect that I had something set incorrectly.   With all the apps I set the paper profile within the application and set the driver to application managed color, is this the correct/best way to set the profile or should I set the profile in the driver?

Thanks
--
-Gary

#26 From: "douchida" <douchida@...>
Date: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: 9180 and Apple Aperture
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--- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "joeymondello"
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>
> --- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "palitig8r" <daniel.harris@>
wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have any experience printing on the B9180 with
Aperture?
> > I've got my printer arriving on Monday and would love to hear any
> > experiences.
> >
>
> I'm new to all of this and so my experience is minimal, but I've
definitely found that printing
> from Aperture and using the HP print center in CS2 yield wildly
different results.
>
> Prints out of Aperture at the default settings are dark and drab
compared to the calibrated
> screen. Prints from CS2 are far better but a bit lighter than what
I see on screen.
>
> I need a primer on profiling which is why I joined this group.
>

I use the Application Managed Colors option to get good results
from Aperture. Set the printer driver's Color menu to
Application Managed Colors, ensure the the correct media type is
selected, and set the appropriate ICC profile in
the ColorSync Profile menu.

Regards

#25 From: "Gary Udstrand" <gudstrand.list@...>
Date: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:50 pm
Subject: Kirkland photo paper
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I was at Costco yesterday and grabbed a pack of the Kirkland Pro Glossy Ink jet Paper.  It says it is compatible with all ink jet printers but I imagine it is compatible with all dye based printers.  Anyway, I had seen mention of this paper being used in the 2400 with good results so I thought I would give it a try.  At $14.00 for 150 8x10 sheets I thought it was worth a shot.   Cheap way for me to experiment and learn about the printer without wasting expensive paper. :-)

It is a long shot, but has anyone else tried this paper?  Any suggestions on which profile to start with?

Thanks
--
-Gary

#24 From: "palitig8r" <daniel.harris@...>
Date: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: Follow-Up
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That's great news.  I'll give it a shot when the printer comes on
Monday.  When you say printer settings, do you configure that through
Print Utility in OS X?  Have you tried with Application Managed and
Adobe RGB 1998?  My understanding is that Adobe should give more color
range than sRGB but I'm a complete color newbie.

--- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "joeymondello"
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>
> I printed out a book last night and found that the combination of
using the HP Advanced
> Glossy Profile both in Aperture's Print dialog AND in Printer
settings (along with selecting
> ColorMatch/sRGB yielded excellent results on HP Advanced Glossy paper.
>
> The dullness I'd seen earlier may have been from selecting System
Managed color OR from
> selecting Adobe RGB 1998 or both.
>
> HTH.
>

#23 From: "joeymondello" <musicandlight@...>
Date: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:00 pm
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I printed out a book last night and found that the combination of using the HP
Advanced
Glossy Profile both in Aperture's Print dialog AND in Printer settings (along
with selecting
ColorMatch/sRGB yielded excellent results on HP Advanced Glossy paper.

The dullness I'd seen earlier may have been from selecting System Managed color
OR from
selecting Adobe RGB 1998 or both.

HTH.

#22 From: "frags02" <frag01@...>
Date: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: Printhead health
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Give it a couple weeks. I and everyone else seems to have had this
issue. It'll clear up shortly. As long as the prints look good don't
worry about it. And, don't waste any ink cleaning the heads unless the
printer directs you to do so....

Hope this helps -- Frag

#21 From: "tomsw" <tweb@...>
Date: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:53 pm
Subject: Red river linen paper
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I really want to try this stuff but I have no idea what profile to use
with it.  Any suggestions?

#20 From: "joeymondello" <musicandlight@...>
Date: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:47 am
Subject: Re: 9180 and Apple Aperture
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--- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "palitig8r" <daniel.harris@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any experience printing on the B9180 with Aperture?
> I've got my printer arriving on Monday and would love to hear any
> experiences.
>

I'm new to all of this and so my experience is minimal, but I've definitely
found that printing
from Aperture and using the HP print center in CS2 yield wildly different
results.

Prints out of Aperture at the default settings are dark and drab compared to the
calibrated
screen. Prints from CS2 are far better but a bit lighter than what I see on
screen.

I need a primer on profiling which is why I joined this group.

#19 From: "tomsw" <tweb@...>
Date: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:38 am
Subject: Re: Printhead health
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Fair is supposed to indicate that there is some maintenance due on the
print head.  Probably a couple of clogged nozzles.  If your prints are
still printing fine I wouldn't worry about it.

They couldn't possibly put text there to indicate what you're looking at.

Hell of a way to run a railroad.

--- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "schst" <schst@...> wrote:
>
> I set up an HP B9180 on Monday. From the start the PK / LG printhead
> had the status "fair". The other printheads were good. Today the LC /
> LM printhead also has the status "fair".
>
> Is this normal? Has anybody else experienced this? I've read on
> dpreview.com that in other cases the printheads went from fair to good
> after a while. Should I wait or report to HP support.
>

#18 From: "schst" <schst@...>
Date: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:04 am
Subject: Printhead health
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I set up an HP B9180 on Monday. From the start the PK / LG printhead
had the status "fair". The other printheads were good. Today the LC /
LM printhead also has the status "fair".

Is this normal? Has anybody else experienced this? I've read on
dpreview.com that in other cases the printheads went from fair to good
after a while. Should I wait or report to HP support.

#17 From: "rschultz101" <linux@...>
Date: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:09 am
Subject: InkJetArt.com profiles
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http://www.inkjetart.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi
You Searched For: B9180

6 Matches Found (displaying 1 to 6)

Printer  Paper  Ink  Download  Setting
HP B9180  Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Gloss Econo  HP Vivera Ink
Download  Settings
HP B9180  Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Gloss Lite  HP Vivera Ink
Download  Settings
HP B9180  Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Gloss Plus  HP Vivera Ink
Download  Settings
HP B9180  Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Gloss  HP Vivera Ink  Download  Settings
HP B9180  Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Luster Duo  HP Vivera Ink
Download  Settings
HP B9180  Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Luster  HP Vivera Ink  Download
Settings

the matt  duo brite still missing,....

what you think about their papers ?

thanks, Robert

#16 From: "jake300b" <jake300b@...>
Date: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:55 pm
Subject: Hello
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Hi All:

My first post. I fear I will not have too much to share for awhile as
the B9180 is my first printer. Mostly Qs from me for a few days most
likely.


My printer arrived today but it is not out of the box yet.

JAke

#15 From: "wolf4cooking" <ccazz@...>
Date: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: Deep blacks in B&W printing?
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--- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "pmendelson2002" <peterm1@...> wrote:
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> I am getting fantastic results using the Hahnemuhle Fine Art Smooth
> with the built-in profile, but for times when I want to print a B&W
> landscape with really deep blacks, this paper doesn't really work.  I
> have the HP Advanced Glossy and Semi-Gloss, and have tried composite
> B&W inks in the driver, but I am not thrilled with these either.  Any
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
>
Sorry if this double posts ....

I've printed a B&W on Crane's Silver Rag – used HP Advanced Soft Gloss as the
paper type and
chose B&W in the plug-in color management area. The blacks were really deep and
rich with
great detail in both shadows and highlights. The paper is pricey but the result
was stunning.

Carole

#14 From: "wolf4cooking" <ccazz@...>
Date: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: Deep blacks in B&W printing?
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--- In hp9100Series@yahoogroups.com, "pmendelson2002" <peterm1@...> wrote:
>
> I am getting fantastic results using the Hahnemuhle Fine Art Smooth
> with the built-in profile, but for times when I want to print a B&W
> landscape with really deep blacks, this paper doesn't really work.  I
> have the HP Advanced Glossy and Semi-Gloss, and have tried composite
> B&W inks in the driver, but I am not thrilled with these either.  Any
> suggestions?

I printed a B&W on Crane's Silver Rag – used HP Advanced Soft Gloss as paper
type and
choose B&W in the plug-in. I thought that the blacks were really deep and
fantastic. Pricey
paper but it looked stunning.

Carole

#13 From: "palitig8r" <daniel.harris@...>
Date: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:17 pm
Subject: 9180 and Apple Aperture
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Does anyone have any experience printing on the B9180 with Aperture?
I've got my printer arriving on Monday and would love to hear any
experiences.

#12 From: "pmendelson2002" <peterm1@...>
Date: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:50 pm
Subject: Deep blacks in B&W printing?
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I am getting fantastic results using the Hahnemuhle Fine Art Smooth
with the built-in profile, but for times when I want to print a B&W
landscape with really deep blacks, this paper doesn't really work.  I
have the HP Advanced Glossy and Semi-Gloss, and have tried composite
B&W inks in the driver, but I am not thrilled with these either.  Any
suggestions?

Thanks,

Peter

#11 From: "Gary Udstrand" <gudstrand.list@...>
Date: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:01 pm
Subject: Shutterbug review of the 9180
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This months issue of Shutterbug found its way into my mailbox a couple days ago.  I have not had a chance to read it yet but I did notice this morning that there is a review of the B9180.  Thought it might be of some interest.....

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-Gary

#10 From: "Gary Udstrand" <gudstrand.list@...>
Date: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:01 pm
Subject: Printer is here
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Finally, after months of waiting my printer has finally arrived.  I have a bunch of sample pack paper and look forward to experimenting with the new inks and paper.  :-)

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-Gary

#9 From: "Gary Udstrand" <gudstrand.list@...>
Date: Tue Oct 3, 2006 4:18 pm
Subject: Henry Wilhelm talks about the new Hp printers and permanence
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Very interesting interview.  Wilhelm talks not only about permanence (for which he is widely regarded) but also some of the history of printmaking and what the new pigment printers mean to photography in general.  Well worth the time to watch.  :-)

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/video/HWa.htm

--
-Gary

#8 From: "Gary Udstrand" <gudstrand.list@...>
Date: Tue Oct 3, 2006 3:58 pm
Subject: PhotoLife review of the B9180
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Another review of the B9180, this one from PhotoLife.  I will add it to the other links on the group home page as well.

http://www.photolife.com/articleInfolettre.php?idArticle=57

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-Gary

#7 From: "Gary Udstrand" <gudstrand.list@...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:24 pm
Subject: Added new links
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I have added links to the 9180 reviews at Luminous Landscape, InkjetArt and Neil Snape.   If there are any other links or resources that would be of value to the members please feel free to add/post them. 

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hp9100Series/links/

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-Gary

#6 From: "Gary Udstrand" <gudstrand.list@...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:03 pm
Subject: Re: Hmmm, really really quiet in here ...
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My order is still showing a delivery date of no later than Oct. 2nd.  I will believe that when I see it!  I did send an email today to Amazon to try and get some more info but I have not heard back from them yet. 

I read your weblog, looks like you have done a fair amount of printing with the 9180.  Are there any papers that stand out from the ones you have tried?  I orderd the HP advanced glossy and semi-gloss (both are reportedly very good) and a couple of sample packs from Red Rvier.  I am dissappointed to see that there are no immediate plans at Red River to profile the 9180.

One thing that would be very useful is if we could create a repository of profiles in the yahoo group files section.  I assume that the profile from inkjetart can be made available for download since it is free, would you be interested in adding it?  As the group moves forward and paper and profile combos discovered it would be nice to have a one stop shop for profiles.  :-)

One last thing, from what you have seen so far are you pleased with your purchase? 

-Gary

On 9/29/06, Cliff Addy < b9180@...> wrote:

 

I did just that, Amazon told me (after the shipping window had passed)
"we don't have them, we don't know when we're going to get them".

However, HP is also now out of stock.  The current magic date making the
rumor rounds is Oct 6th.

I got my B9180 on Tuesday, you can read all about my experiences so far
at http://www.cliffaddy.com/b9180.html

Cliff





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#5 From: Cliff Addy <b9180@...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: Hmmm, really really quiet in here ...
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Gary Udstrand wrote:

> I have the printer on order from Amazon but it has not shipped yet.  If it
> were not for the price ($569.00 with free shipping) I would cancel and
> order
> from HP direct.  From the reports I have heard the orders from HP are
> being
> filled in a timely fashion.
I did just that, Amazon told me (after the shipping window had passed)
"we don't have them, we don't know when we're going to get them".

However, HP is also now out of stock.  The current magic date making the
rumor rounds is Oct 6th.

I got my B9180 on Tuesday, you can read all about my experiences so far
at http://www.cliffaddy.com/b9180.html

Cliff

#4 From: "Gary Udstrand" <gudstrand.list@...>
Date: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:46 pm
Subject: Re: Hmmm, really really quiet in here ...
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I have the printer on order from Amazon but it has not shipped yet.  If it were not for the price ($569.00 with free shipping) I would cancel and order from HP direct.  From the reports I have heard the orders from HP are being filled in a timely fashion. 

-Gary

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Date: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:17 am
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Anybody out there?  Anyone actually own the printer yet?

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