We still haven't decided the base syntax. To be able to use it within other vocabularies and without having any problems with agents, inline HumanML is out of...
Manos Batsis
m.batsis@...
Mar 1, 2001 10:51 am
105
... From: "Manos Batsis" <m.batsis@...> To: <humanmarkup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 10:52 AM Subject: [humanmarkup] Syntax ... The...
Ian Tindale
ian_tindale@...
Mar 1, 2001 12:32 pm
106
... Both examples parsed well on SiRPAC [1], but I prefer Ian's representation as it seems to fit more closely what we are trying to do. Still, there are some...
Sean B. Palmer
sean@...
Mar 1, 2001 1:45 pm
107
Thank you Sean. I see you haven't commented on the css thingie... You where the only one I expected comments from on this? Best regards, Manos ... From: Sean...
Manos Batsis
m.batsis@...
Mar 1, 2001 1:52 pm
108
... Just getting around to it! Here you go:- ... Hmm, I'm not sure that you can build proprietery styling extensions onto CSS3, even though it is...
Sean B. Palmer
sean@...
Mar 1, 2001 2:17 pm
109
<Sean> But CSS transformations? You'd have to have an HuML file with all the data, and then use XSLT to convert that into CSS (XSLT can output plain text)....
Manos Batsis
m.batsis@...
Mar 1, 2001 2:26 pm
110
... Yes; or the users wishes if s/he overrides it. ... I think I see what you mean now... it'd be a new stylesheet language, not CSS, so you have to have...
Sean B. Palmer
sean@...
Mar 1, 2001 2:38 pm
111
<Sean> ... I think I see what you mean now... it'd be a new stylesheet language, not CSS, so you have to have "HuMLS". I suppose that a HuMLS file would be...
Manos Batsis
m.batsis@...
Mar 1, 2001 2:50 pm
112
That is the idea. The concrete representation varies by rendering language. That is why we can't tie it to CSS. It would put the other languages out of...
Bullard, Claude L (Len)
clbullar@...
Mar 1, 2001 4:02 pm
113
Actually, is what we're doing here not actually a markup language at all, but is in fact almost entirely a style syntax? Or am I confused? -- Cheers, Ian...
Ian Tindale
ian_tindale@...
Mar 1, 2001 4:23 pm
114
The problem is, if it is entirely a style syntax it will not be usuable but on exactly one style engine. Human communication occurs in many channels....
Bullard, Claude L (Len)
clbullar@...
Mar 1, 2001 4:34 pm
115
<len> ... </len> Certainly this is so. It isn't that humanmarkup is inventing or creating new communications theories--we aren't. However, what we are doing...
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
rkthunga@...
Mar 1, 2001 5:28 pm
116
We might eventually have established stylistic standards for emotions...For example, <happy> may directly correspond to a specific textual representation such...
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
rkthunga@...
Mar 1, 2001 7:00 pm
117
I'll try to explain the XSLT approach as best as I can in an abbreviated explanation without too much code. So I am taking some shortcuts to save time (need...
Bullard, Claude L (Len)
clbullar@...
Mar 1, 2001 7:34 pm
118
... No: XHTML m12n elements are defined as having no rendering semantics whatsoever:- [...] this document makes no requirements on the formatting model...
Sean B. Palmer
sean@...
Mar 1, 2001 9:17 pm
119
Here is my last message with associated HuML:- <assertion>No: <technicality>XHTML m12n elements are defined as having no rendering semantics...
Sean B. Palmer
sean@...
Mar 1, 2001 9:24 pm
120
<sean> Attaching "standard" presentations to semantic markup is highly inaccessible... what if I associate happiness with the color blue, but some "rule" says...
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
rkthunga@...
Mar 1, 2001 9:54 pm
121
... Ah, this is the place where I am getting confused - in the terminology again. When you use the term standard, I think of an ISO specifiction pertaining to...
Sean B. Palmer
sean@...
Mar 2, 2001 1:33 am
122
<sean> just mean a list of "idea" as to how HuML should be styled, then just write a Style Sheet and say "this is what we use, and we hope others will like it...
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
rkthunga@...
Mar 2, 2001 2:16 am
123
... Yes, that's a good idea. It should be based on current implementations and cultural understandings of what HuML represents, e.g. what people visualize as...
Sean B. Palmer
sean@...
Mar 2, 2001 3:58 am
124
I'm forwarding the following posting from www-style@... I have to agree with Bert's points. ... From: Bert Bos [mailto:bert@...] Sent: Thursday, March...
Manos Batsis
m.batsis@...
Mar 2, 2001 8:00 am
125
<Sean> ... Anger is "red" to most people. In aural terms it could be loud and strong; equivalent multimedia based mappings are *essential*. </Sean> <Ranjeeth> ...
Manos Batsis
m.batsis@...
Mar 2, 2001 8:18 am
126
Found it at: http://xml.com/pub/a/coverpage/newspage.html#ni2001-02-28-a witch of course has a link to for reference to: ...
Manos Batsis
m.batsis@...
Mar 2, 2001 11:44 am
127
Bert's dead wrong. CSS is a bad idea for that level of representation. This is one metalevel too low for the emotional markup. Len ...
Bullard, Claude L (Len)
clbullar@...
Mar 2, 2001 2:37 pm
128
What level of representation do you really think an application running on a cell phone or even PDA actually needs? OR, what level of metadata can such a...
Manos Batsis
m.batsis@...
Mar 2, 2001 2:53 pm
129
Maybe we should start writing some markup using something like the Dublin Core RDF (even if we don't use it at the end, it will help us move on), but I don't...
Manos Batsis
m.batsis@...
Mar 2, 2001 3:16 pm
130
Because by the time the PDA sees it, it wants it in a rendering language, not an abstract content model. I don't argue that CSS can't do what RDF does....
Bullard, Claude L (Len)
clbullar@...
Mar 2, 2001 3:22 pm
131
... A parser able to read css will be able to read that ... I never argued with that. I only claimed HuML css like rules could be used by an application to...
Manos Batsis
m.batsis@...
Mar 2, 2001 3:35 pm
132
XML.COM has an article on RDDL. Essentially it is a XLink set in XHTML telling one where all the resources needed to process a namespace reference are. In...
Bullard, Claude L (Len)
clbullar@...
Mar 2, 2001 3:35 pm
133
Yes. That it can do. A CSS parser can read that but what will it do with it? We chose the XML syntax coming out of the gate because there are lots of tools...
Having problems with message search?
Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.
