-
Hello There
Welcome to the forum :-)
I have picked up vibration in my body sometimes in bed, my back and my
scull have vibrated. Other members of the forum have had the same
experience.
I thought that maybe the mattress was picking up a resonance from the
electricity in the walls, the mattress is wire framed. One night I
took it out and slept on a foam mattress to see if that would make a
difference, it didn't help, although it is something to be aware of.
Myself and many members of the forum hear various sounds, the most
common being the sound of a diesel engine, but also whistles and other
noises, some one ear some both.
I have used ear-plugs to sleep with but sometimes find that makes it
worse.
Many use a small household fan to mask the noise, other methods are a
white noise maker, or a FM radio tuned between stations so that it
makes a hissing noise. Some have mentioned placing an aquarium in the
bedroom to have a pleasant source of noise.
It is possible to let the hum get the best of you, it is best to try
and take it easy, give yourself a break now and then and try to relax.
Some things I do is go for a walk or a drive or listen to relaxing
music with headphones, sounds rather simple but works :-)
-- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Chandra" <acoolname7@...> wrote:
>
> I'm so glad I'm not alone here. My husband thinks I'm crazy, not
really
> crazy but he thinks I'm making this stuff up. Okay there are a few
> things that I was wondering if it happens to anyone else. When i hear
> the hum in my bed i can also periodically feel my bed vibrate. I use to
> think it was my husband just moving in the bed but then i noticed it
> happended when I was alone in bed. It is a very gentle vibration almost
> like someone is holding on to the footboard and gently nudging it back
> and forth. Also my second thing was, i believe I have what is
> call "Exploding Head Syndrome" I have had this as lond as I can
> remember but has gotten worse with time. I was just wondering if anyone
> else that hears this humming as this also. They say that exlploding
> head syndrome has to do with the ear and I thought maybe there was some
> kind of conection. I never thought there was but they seem to coincide
> with intnesity.
> thanks chandra
>
In a message dated 02/08/2008 00:14:20 GMT Standard Time, nonnijonsson@... writes:
- Hello There
Welcome to the forum :-)
I have picked up vibration in my body sometimes in bed, my back and my scull have vibrated. Other members of the forum have had the same
experience.
(Hi, folks, Just to add some little points :
if you think that you are getting vibrations that are enough to
vibrate the skull, or the actual bed frame, then it is a simple matter to check using a seismometer.
I know that all sound is vibration, but I have encountered quite a few people who think there is actual physical movement, which if so, as I say, is easy to measure.
I mean this kindly, but may I just add that in my 'early days' of The Hum,
I fancied I felt vibration in my sternum, but now I think this could have been a stress reaction giving the impression of vibration.
Just trying to help.
All part of this complicated problem. )
Best Wishes,
R.M.
LFNS Helpline, England.)
I thought that maybe the mattress was picking up a resonance from the electricity in the walls, the mattress is wire framed. One night I took it out and slept on a foam mattress to see if that would make a difference, it didn't help, although it is something to be aware of.
Myself and many members of the forum hear various sounds, the most common being the sound of a diesel engine, but also whistles and other noises, some one ear some both.
GREEN BAY, Wis. - Bob and Leona Ehrfurth say the noise that's been plaguing them for two years sounds something like a rumbling motor, with a subtle vibration that won't quit. Then it stops — especially when they try to show city officials or acoustic experts what they're hearing.
It's enough to keep 76-year-old Leona from sleeping.
"It's like there's a semi parked right outside with the engine running, but when you look out, there isn't one," she said.
She and her husband, who is 75, have lived in the same house for 42 years. The problem only developed over the last two years.
Her husband can sleep through it but also finds it irritating.
"It doesn't matter if the windows are open or closed — you still hear it," he said. "It's worse in the winter."
When they leave, the don't hear the noise, he said, so they know it's not some health problem the two share.
City officials hired a company for $1,000 worth of testing in the house this spring, but the tester came up with no noise and no significant vibration.
Alderman Andy Nicholson knows exactly what's bugging the Ehrfurths.
"Yeah, I've experienced it," Nicholson said. "It's like an engine thing, a low-frequency vibration. I think it would be an annoyance."
He had hoped the testing equipment could be used inside one of the factories in the area, but Municipal Judge Jerry Hanson wouldn't sign the inspection warrant because there was no reasonable suspicion of a violation.
The Ehrfurths' immediate neighbors haven't complained, although some people, like Nicholson, have said they heard the sound.
The couple said the noise started soon after St. Bernard's Parish across the street had the roofing, chimney and ductwork on a wing of its school redone. However, when the parish staff turned off all of its equipment as a test, the noise continued.
The city's Protection & Welfare Committee planned to take up the matter Wednesday night, when it discusses a report from Predictive Technologies Inc., which did vibration testing at the home.
Leona Ehrfurth said she's had to go to the basement or try to sleep in the sunroom to escape the noise.
"I try to stay in bed, but I get such a bad headache, I can't take it," she said. "We could move, but why should we have to? We didn't cause it."
To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
From: Tobypaws2002@...
Date sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:50:58 EDT
Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: humming and bed shaking
Send reply to: humforum@yahoogroups.com
>(Hi, folks, Just to add some little points :
>if you think that you are getting vibrations that are enough to
>vibrate the skull, or the actual bed frame, then it is a simple matter to
>check using a seismometer. I know that all sound is vibration, but I have
>encountered quite a few people who think there is actual physical movement,
>which if so,
> as I say, is easy to measure.
>I mean this kindly, but may I just add that in my 'early days' of The Hum, I
>fancied I felt vibration in my sternum, but now I think this could have been a
>stress reaction giving the impression of vibration. Just trying to help. All
>part of this complicated problem. ) Best Wishes, R.M. LFNS Helpline,
>England.)
>
>I thought that maybe the mattress was picking up a resonance from the
>electricity in the walls, the mattress is wire framed. One night I
>took it out and slept on a foam mattress to see if that would make a
>difference, it didn't help, although it is something to be aware of.
>
>Myself and many members of the forum hear various sounds, the most
>common being the sound of a diesel engine, but also whistles and other
>noises, some one ear some both.
I have tried seismometers, computer-monitored
vibration switches, and the poor person's version,
touching a cup of water to the vibrating object and
watching for ripples.
Definitely, vibrations. Big time.
Eleanor White
Elliot Lake, Ontario
Canada
Hi Eleanor,
I tried to find a seismic data chart near you but can't find anything
in Canada. Here is one that you might be able to use that might help.
http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli_bb_nsn/
I am looking for a shake on the chart that will go with what you are
feeling. Hope this helps.
Ken
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, ewraven1@... wrote:
> I have tried seismometers, computer-monitored
> vibration switches, and the poor person's version,
> touching a cup of water to the vibrating object and
> watching for ripples.
>
> Definitely, vibrations. Big time.
>
> Eleanor White
> Elliot Lake, Ontario
> Canada
>
To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
From: "Ken Smith" <kensmith52@...>
Date sent: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:00:43 -0000
Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: humming and bed shaking
Send reply to: humforum@yahoogroups.com
>Hi Eleanor,
>I tried to find a seismic data chart near you but can't find anything
>in Canada. Here is one that you might be able to use that might help.
>http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli_bb_nsn/
>
>I am looking for a shake on the chart that will go with what you are
>feeling. Hope this helps.
my vibration is not natural in origin,
so earthquake or industrial source
data does not apply.
can't supply details as my wrist is
broken and typing is very difficult.
ew
Sorry, I must have read your information backward. I understand now
that you just get this feeling and the earth is not shaking but only
when you touch a cup of water you can see the ripples.
Ken
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, ewraven1@... wrote:
>
> To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
> From: "Ken Smith" <kensmith52@...>
> Date sent: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:00:43 -0000
> Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: humming and bed shaking
> Send reply to: humforum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >Hi Eleanor,
> >I tried to find a seismic data chart near you but can't find anything
> >in Canada. Here is one that you might be able to use that might help.
> >http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/heli_bb_nsn/
> >
> >I am looking for a shake on the chart that will go with what you are
> >feeling. Hope this helps.
>
> my vibration is not natural in origin,
> so earthquake or industrial source
> data does not apply.
>
> can't supply details as my wrist is
> broken and typing is very difficult.
>
> ew
>
To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
From: "Ken Smith" <kensmith52@...>
Date sent: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:14:53 -0000
Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: humming and bed shaking
Send reply to: humforum@yahoogroups.com
>Sorry, I must have read your information backward. I understand now
>that you just get this feeling and the earth is not shaking but only
>when you touch a cup of water you can see the ripples.
no, instrumentation detects no viration in floor,
but powerful vibration in specific objects and
bodyparts. one fellow from sc had his head
virate so visibly he was required to leave
university.
painful condition prevents extensive typing.
details must wait until september.
e w
EW,
Don't write back as I understand your situation, But I am on to some
things that I can't discuss right now until I have some more data and
information. I have some other people working with me from other parts
of the country trying to piece some information that we are finding
out about things that are going on in America and other countries.
What I will say is that everyone points a finger at Haarp but there
are many of these stations and one in Europe that makes Haarp look
like a toy. There are some other evidence of equipment that causes
some things that you are talking about.
When I get some more information I will post some findings and maybe
we can get to the bottom of all this.
Ken
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, ewraven1@... wrote:
>
> To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
> From: "Ken Smith" <kensmith52@...>
> Date sent: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:14:53 -0000
> Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: humming and bed shaking
> Send reply to: humforum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >Sorry, I must have read your information backward. I understand now
> >that you just get this feeling and the earth is not shaking but only
> >when you touch a cup of water you can see the ripples.
>
> no, instrumentation detects no viration in floor,
> but powerful vibration in specific objects and
> bodyparts. one fellow from sc had his head
> virate so visibly he was required to leave
> university.
>
> painful condition prevents extensive typing.
>
> details must wait until september.
>
> e w
>
EW, Don't write back as I understand your situation, But I am on to some things that I can't discuss right now until I have some more data and information.
<snip>
Ken, Since you seem particularly interested in the humming/vibration aspect I will add a little to the mix. I have heard the hum since summer, 1993. I hear two components, the first a multi-frequency continuous droning similar to white noise, but with little or none of the "sizzle" of white noise, and the second a sound I call the rumble, a very low frequency somewhat combustive type irregular sound that is best equated to the sound of a large gas furnace igniting. I suspect it is this latter component that most people are calling the "diesel". I have heard the hum 24/7 since October 1997, but the rumble is intermittent, although it occurs frequently.
I first noted the vibrations early on, probably also in 1993 when I was standing in my office operating my printer and noticed the hairs on my arms were picking up some kind of a vibration from the air. I later noticed the vibration sitting or lying down on overstuffed furniture as well as in my mattress. From time to time I have tested the vibrations, alternately sitting on a sofa and a wooden chair, table or other hard object, and have never felt them in objects without padding. The rumble has always been present when the vibrations occur, and the sound and the vibrations seem to keep time with each other, much like the vibrations that can be felt in a cardboard box near a stereo speaker. Thus, I assumed that the vibrations were produced by the sound, and that the sound (or signal) was resonating in certain structures that had springs and padding. To confuse the issue, however, the vibrations are not present every time I hear the rumble, just sometimes, when it seems particularly intense.
Don't know whether this will be helpful, but thought I would offer it for whatever it's worth.
Ken,
I don't know if I should post this info.....With all the HUM problems
we don't need to stress out more.....But....Staying informed of the
scientific world's ego is what we simple people(myself) need to do.
In August, the CERN Collider will be switched on. This $5.8 billion
project is 330 ft. underground and straddles the French & Swiss
border. Scientist plan to hunt for signs of invisible "dark matter"
and "dark energy". Let's hope this does not cause more harm than
good. Our"Hum" is enought to deal with. I personally think the hum
is coming from deep underground and not HAARP. HAARP is hi-frequency
not low. Something else is going on. Hope you find out more of
what. Keep posting.....This could get very interesting.
Sandra
In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Smith" <kensmith52@...> wrote:
>
> EW,
> Don't write back as I understand your situation, But I am on to some
> things that I can't discuss right now until I have some more data
and
> information. I have some other people working with me from other
parts
> of the country trying to piece some information that we are finding
> out about things that are going on in America and other countries.
> What I will say is that everyone points a finger at Haarp but there
> are many of these stations and one in Europe that makes Haarp look
> like a toy. There are some other evidence of equipment that causes
> some things that you are talking about.
> When I get some more information I will post some findings and maybe
> we can get to the bottom of all this.
>
> Ken
>
> --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, ewraven1@ wrote:
> >
> > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
> > From: "Ken Smith" <kensmith52@>
> > Date sent: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:14:53 -0000
> > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: humming and bed shaking
> > Send reply to: humforum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > >Sorry, I must have read your information backward. I understand
now
> > >that you just get this feeling and the earth is not shaking but
only
> > >when you touch a cup of water you can see the ripples.
> >
> > no, instrumentation detects no viration in floor,
> > but powerful vibration in specific objects and
> > bodyparts. one fellow from sc had his head
> > virate so visibly he was required to leave
> > university.
> >
> > painful condition prevents extensive typing.
> >
> > details must wait until september.
> >
> > e w
> >
>
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "fairydustgrrl" <fairydustgrrl@...>
wrote: For years I have lost sleep, gotten headaches, and yelled at my
> husband because he couldn't hear the incessant humming. I've walked
> the house .....
Hi Fairydustgirl
You are not alone, and if your ears are not the real sensitive type,
then you should be able to walk out the house and not here it at all.
It is a crazy phenomina that you can stand in your house and hear the
hum, then walk just outside the door , and its gone, in, out, in, out,
on, off, on , off, crazy !
If you read further back in the forum you will find counter measures,
like white noise, fans, radios, active headphones, earplugs.
Also read about the holiday effect, when you go away the hum can be
gone for days, but will come to the new location, and when you return
home, it may be gone, but it will return.
Some people have it in both ears or just the one like me (my right),
and it all started suddenly 3 years ago.
The cause is still unknown, some say natural, or man-made, or a
combination of both. Some say Acustic, or electro-magnetic, or a new
theory about gravaton waves. who knows ?
The main thing is stick with the counter measures and dont let it get
to you.
Cheers Colin, West Coast, Central Scotland.
Sandra, Judy and List,
Thank you for the information. I don't hear the Hum here and I don't
find any people around here that even knows about it. I'm in WV and it
seems things here are mostly quiet.
I am still researching this and have some information put out to some
people that is trying to do tests on some strange things that are
taking place. The tests that I am trying to get done does not fit into
this Hum forum because it is of a different nature. But the results,
if my theory is correct may lead to one form of hum. It may also lead
to this shaking that some people have experienced.
I got into this because I thought it was a RF or some kind of signal
that may be found so that the source may be located. The source still
may be located but not in a fashion one would think about.
In the files section under Ken Smith, there is a file called Audio
Frequency one.xls
This file mat be used to try and find if its acoustic in nature that
may be a resonant frequency to a room or the whole house. Of course
this is for people that only hear this inside a building.
But I am looking for 2 or more signals that mixes to produce a third
signal that we may feel or hear.
Ken
The Hum has once again arrived in Calverton, Notts. It has been fluctuating in intensity from barely discernable, to keeping me awake 3 nights running. A 2 week period has passed up to present.
Well I thought I would put some information about things I have found.
In emailing some people that are working on this I have found a couple
of people that was hearing a Hum after chemtrails were sprayed. The
one stated that he heard them louder than before. They also stated
like a diesel engine idling sound. I also ran into some information I
was not expecting. People from California, Virginia, New Mexico, Utah,
Nevada were seeing people acting like zombies is the word they were
all using. In trying to sort this out I found that most were in a
Large mall or Wal-Mart store that were affected. There was one person
that had some body shakes but she could not explain what is was that
caused it.
On doing some research, I came across some documents of people as far
back as the 70's were doing tests of mind control. It appears they
started out with towers that was called GWEN (Ground Wave Emergency
Network). Thes towers were put in to communicate accross the whole US
to provide services but were used for testing purposes which related
to Haarp. They transmitted ELF into the ground to create a mind
control experiment but now I have information that some of them has
been taken out. What I found to replace many of these GWEN towers was
Cell Phone Towers. Below is some information.
Cell Towers and Mindcontrol
http://www.geocities.com/electrogravitics/rmc.html
Allen H. Frey's Work
http://homepages.tesco.net/~John.Dawes2/frey.htm
GWEN Towers.
http://truckertwotimes.com/gwen.html
This last site shows how to build a tin foil hat of all things to
shield a Cell phone tower transmission from you. I do not know if this
works but I have read some emails from some people that stated that it
is silly but it did work.
Building a shield from EMF
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/build.html
The only thing I can say is I don't hear the Hum at My place but
something that has happened to my wife and I is a memory problem that
just started about 6 months ago. I also have a neighbor that stated he
has the same trouble. I got some equipment and I am trying to find
frequencies that may be causing this as we only have Cell Phoe towers
around here and they are putting them up everywhere.
I don't know if any of this information wil help anyone or not. I
thought I would put it out there and if it did then good for you. If
it don't then I tried to tell you what I did find. We are still
working on this and will keep you informed.
Ken
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Smith" <kensmith52@...> wrote:
>
> On doing some research, I came across some documents of people as far
> back as the 70's were doing tests of mind control. It appears they
> started out with towers that was called GWEN (Ground Wave Emergency
snip ...
>
> I don't know if any of this information wil help anyone or not. I
> thought I would put it out there and if it did then good for you. If
> it don't then I tried to tell you what I did find. We are still
> working on this and will keep you informed.
>
> Ken
>
There is an awful lot of published material on the internet. The
problem is there is no critical vetting of the quality or validity of
the information. Much is simply opinion, some paranoid rantings, or
worse. I would be willing to bet that you could find at least one
article on any subject you want. Chickens in Space? - yep Google shows
multiple hits. Make one up and do a search.
Mind Control falls into this category. Now, I can see that Television
and Sports certainly achieve a degree of it. And the politically
motivated news channels have their own agendas. With cable, we can now
get a program tuned to just about any political belief that has some
purchasing power behind it.
But the question I always have, if this thing exists, is "Who is doing
the Mind Control?" Of course, it would have to be a government thing.
No body else would have the resources - except Warren Buffet and/or Bill
Gates. Bill already controls a good part of our lives with his
monopolistic operating system. But why do they want to control us? To
make us spend money at Walmart? To make us passive supporters of
illegal wars? It must be working well then. The sheeple have
certainly lined up. Those post war Nazi scientists? - now octogenarian
or better? Must be staying the Mein Kamp Towers Senior Living Center in
Landover MD, hatching their evil schemes.
There are commonly occuring themes in life. Vampires and Werewolves are
a manifestation of the same theme as Goethe's Faust. Only recast.
The loss of power we feel in controlling our own lives manifests itself
in belief of an UberLeuten Mind Control scheme. Someone is doing this
to us! It is not an organic feeling in and of itself. It can't be.
The logistics necessary for a mind control network simply are not
achievable. You would need a highly organized group of people, all with
the same agenda, all with an unwavering dedication to an enormous and
almost unattainable goal. And they would need to have an antidote
(their own tin foil hats) to avoid falling under the influence of the
systems they have created. And for what purpose? Power, wealth, fame?
Find a group of people like that, and they could make a fortune
presenting organizational seminars to the Fortune 500. Much easier than
controlling us all. More profitable too!
But, be very very careful. Maybe I am one of them. Maybe I am just
another unwitting pawn in their scheme, whose goal is the disemination
of false information, using that medium of pure truth, the Internet!
If this forum is to have any legitimacy, please keep the XFile themes
out of it.
Kallio
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Kallio,
Well I have been following this for about 5 years. I'm not much of a
believer unless I have some sort of proof. I know some people do not
believe that there is weather modification going on but there is bills
in the senate you can find that proves this is correct. Have you seen
the lightning lately. Pure Plasma lightning.
Chemtrails are real. They have found barium salts, aluminium, human
blood all sorts of things that have tested postive. Yet people go to
the EPA and they say they don't know anything about chem trails and
they would have to know where the samples came from.
Some large store have used mind control audio to promote some products
and they have stated this. But now what are they doing with this. I
know some people in maintainence in some of the wal-mart stores and I
have to ask them what they know about this. My problem is that it
might not have gotten this far east yet. I also know people that works
on the Cell towers and have already sent emails to them. I don't know
anyone that works for AT&T Cell and that is where the catch is. I know
they are set up to monitor all traffic and can turn on your cell phone
mic to listen. They can also track you by the GPS of your phone.
I have been experimenting with Scaler energy. That also is not
supposed to be real either. I built a circuit and showed it to an
engineer and he said that won't work the way you have it wired. I
acted dumb so I ask him how to wire it and he said it won't work any
which way you wire it. I just turned it on and he just stared and
never said anything.
In all this mind control, or HUm or what ever is going on, You have to
know what the Big Picture was from the beginning. There are thousands
of people involved in this and some that don't even know they are.
Most things come with a smile on its face like the Cell phone towers.
Every on wants one. Its handy and you can get a call from anyone where
ever you are. They don't tell you they cause cancer. AT$T told me
they did when I got my cell phone. But he suggested I get a Bluetooth
and use it wireless. I told him that the same thing was going on with
the bluetooth.
I don't beat around the bush if there is something wrong that will
harm people, I want to tell them. If I can help some one I want to do
it not try and collect money from it.
Ken
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "kallio_mn" <kallio_mn@...> wrote:
>
> Find a group of people like that, and they could make a fortune
> presenting organizational seminars to the Fortune 500. Much easier than
> controlling us all. More profitable too!
>
> But, be very very careful. Maybe I am one of them. Maybe I am just
> another unwitting pawn in their scheme, whose goal is the disemination
> of false information, using that medium of pure truth, the Internet!
>
> If this forum is to have any legitimacy, please keep the XFile themes
> out of it.
>
> Kallio
> Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
>
The U.S. Govt. has told everyone traveling to China for the olympics
not to bring cell phones or laptop computers. Why?? Because they
can be turned on and scaned for info. They also said don't think you
are not important enough for this.....It's all over the news reports
CNN etc. Sounds like Ken is on to something. I turned in my cell
phone three years ago and don't miss it. I do have ON STAR though.
Sandra
- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Smith" <kensmith52@...> wrote:
>
> Kallio,
> Well I have been following this for about 5 years. I'm not much of a
> believer unless I have some sort of proof. I know some people do not
> believe that there is weather modification going on but there is
bills
> in the senate you can find that proves this is correct. Have you
seen
> the lightning lately. Pure Plasma lightning.
> Chemtrails are real. They have found barium salts, aluminium, human
> blood all sorts of things that have tested postive. Yet people go to
> the EPA and they say they don't know anything about chem trails and
> they would have to know where the samples came from.
> Some large store have used mind control audio to promote some
products
> and they have stated this. But now what are they doing with this. I
> know some people in maintainence in some of the wal-mart stores and
I
> have to ask them what they know about this. My problem is that it
> might not have gotten this far east yet. I also know people that
works
> on the Cell towers and have already sent emails to them. I don't
know
> anyone that works for AT&T Cell and that is where the catch is. I
know
> they are set up to monitor all traffic and can turn on your cell
phone
> mic to listen. They can also track you by the GPS of your phone.
> I have been experimenting with Scaler energy. That also is not
> supposed to be real either. I built a circuit and showed it to an
> engineer and he said that won't work the way you have it wired. I
> acted dumb so I ask him how to wire it and he said it won't work any
> which way you wire it. I just turned it on and he just stared and
> never said anything.
> In all this mind control, or HUm or what ever is going on, You have
to
> know what the Big Picture was from the beginning. There are
thousands
> of people involved in this and some that don't even know they are.
> Most things come with a smile on its face like the Cell phone
towers.
> Every on wants one. Its handy and you can get a call from anyone
where
> ever you are. They don't tell you they cause cancer. AT$T told me
> they did when I got my cell phone. But he suggested I get a
Bluetooth
> and use it wireless. I told him that the same thing was going on
with
> the bluetooth.
> I don't beat around the bush if there is something wrong that will
> harm people, I want to tell them. If I can help some one I want to
do
> it not try and collect money from it.
>
> Ken
>
>
> --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "kallio_mn" <kallio_mn@> wrote:
> >
> > Find a group of people like that, and they could make a fortune
> > presenting organizational seminars to the Fortune 500. Much
easier than
> > controlling us all. More profitable too!
> >
> > But, be very very careful. Maybe I am one of them. Maybe I am
just
> > another unwitting pawn in their scheme, whose goal is the
disemination
> > of false information, using that medium of pure truth, the
Internet!
> >
> > If this forum is to have any legitimacy, please keep the XFile
themes
> > out of it.
> >
> > Kallio
> > Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
> >
>
Well with ON Star they can do the same thing as the Cell Phone. But
getting back to the Hum and Cell Phones, Does people that hear the hum
in a cell phone area. One test that might work is to go to a location
with your cell phone, say down in a valley and watch when you can not
pick up a signal. Then see if you can still pick that hum up. We have
areas here that you cannot get a signal because there are no towers.
This is because its off the beaten path of the traffic and not many
people live there. So this would be an area you would be looking for.
I live in a mountainous area and I can shield myself from a signal.
This would be harder to find a location out in the west because of so
much flat land.
Ken
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Sandra Shultz" <sandnella@...> wrote:
>
> The U.S. Govt. has told everyone traveling to China for the olympics
> not to bring cell phones or laptop computers. Why?? Because they
> can be turned on and scaned for info. They also said don't think you
> are not important enough for this.....It's all over the news reports
> CNN etc. Sounds like Ken is on to something. I turned in my cell
> phone three years ago and don't miss it. I do have ON STAR though.
> Sandra
I first heard my hum in the Canadian wilderness - miles from any cell phone service (I know, I've tried). I believe Kallio has had the same experience.
Of course, if you think that's the problem (I don't), satellite phones work nearly everywhere. Cell phone frequency (GSM) is allocated (nominally) in the 900 and 1800 MHz bands. GlobalStar downlink frequency is ~1611 to 1625 MHz (uplink ~2484 to 2500 MHz). http://www.microwaves101.com/encyclopedia/frequency.cfm Don't forget radio (AM/FM), TV, radar, CB, GPS, deepspace, etc. Why select cellphone towers as a target when there are much more pervasive media?
Arne Central MN USA ________________________________
Well with ON Star they can do the same thing as the Cell Phone. But getting back to the Hum and Cell Phones, Does people that hear the hum in a cell phone area. One test that might work is to go to a location with your cell phone, say down in a valley and watch when you can not pick up a signal...
Ken, I live between two mountain ridges and in one of those persistently annoying "dead spots" with mostly no cell phone reception. Of all the companies out there only one provides some weak reception, and even that is extremely spotty. The hum here at home is somewhat worse, usually, than other places I go, so I don't believe it's related to cell phones. I do not find an increase in the hum when I go into an area with strong cell phone reception.
Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Cell Phone Towers for Mindcontrol
Well with ON Star they can do the same thing as the Cell Phone. But getting back to the Hum and Cell Phones, Does people that hear the hum in a cell phone area. One test that might work is to go to a location with your cell phone, say down in a valley and watch when you can not pick up a signal. Then see if you can still pick that hum up.
Thanks Judy,
That is what I need to hear from people. Some kind of tests someone
can prove out. I think this is going to have to be a process of
elimination to see what is causing it.
Ken
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Fluhrer" <sierramt7@...> wrote:
>
> Ken, I live between two mountain ridges and in one of those persistently
> annoying "dead spots" with mostly no cell phone reception. Of all the
> companies out there only one provides some weak reception, and even
that is
> extremely spotty. The hum here at home is somewhat worse, usually, than
> other places I go, so I don't believe it's related to cell phones. I
do not
> find an increase in the hum when I go into an area with strong cell
phone
> reception.
>
> Judy
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Ken Smith
> Date: 08/14/08 05:49:12
> To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Cell Phone Towers for Mindcontrol
>
> Well with ON Star they can do the same thing as the Cell Phone. But
getting
> back to the Hum and Cell Phones, Does people that hear the hum in a cell
> phone area. One test that might work is to go to a location with
your cell
> phone, say down in a valley and watch when you can not pick up a signal.
> Then see if you can still pick that hum up.
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Sorry for any email that was sent using this forum that was coming
from my computer. Someone hacked into my yahoo email and setup the
auto responder and it was sending messages that I could not find until
yesterday. I solved the problem with yahoo's help.
If this happens to you and you are receiving mail back that you did
not send, then go to your email and select Mail Options. Go to
Vacation Response and in it delete every thing there. Turn off the
Auto Responder and Change your password.
As a note, you won't know its doing it until someone tells you or it
sends a message to someone whos email does not exist. Then it will
send the message back to you and states it can't send the message and
you can see it came from your computer.
Ken
> ... you can see it came from your computer.
How could a Yahoo auto response come from your computer, Ken? From your
account, perhaps, but the message will have been originated at a Yahoo
server IP, not your computer's IP.
Tom
It is setup under email options and under vacation. When someone sends
you an email, the auto responder sends out the message you have type
in the box.
Ken
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Becker <gtbecker@...> wrote:
>
> > ... you can see it came from your computer.
>
> How could a Yahoo auto response come from your computer, Ken? From
your
> account, perhaps, but the message will have been originated at a Yahoo
> server IP, not your computer's IP.
>
>
> Tom
>
At the bottom of this link is the most information.
http://www.rense.com/general30/hum.htm
I still think these cell towers have something to do with this hum and
other problems. I am gathering more information but its slow.
Ken
Over the week end I have done some tests to see if I can create this
Hum noise. I have checked cell phone frequencies, hand held phones
looked at a large amount of frequencies on the spectrum analyzer and
could find nothing that I could point to.
I remember a person on this forum talking about putting filters on
there house and went back to that theory for a while. I did some test
with a frequency generator using the 60 hertz line frequency. I was
frequency modulating a 50 hertz tone with a 10 hertz deviation and
using pulses set at 50% duty cycle. I noticed that this would throw
signals at 10,75 and 110 hertz. By changing the duty cycle, I could
control these other frequencies at different frequencies. At one point
I thought I could hear a high frequency hiss but I moved through it
too fast and could not find that point again. I tried a pure sine wave
but only a rectangle wave would work to produce these other carriers.
I am going to do more tests later but I got to get some different
equipment. I am begging to wonder if over the years, this hum has
increased. If it has, is it due to the increase of large electric
power lines that we used to not have. I know that some places they are
starting to use power lines for internet use. They have to modify the
transformers at these locations which would give you the pulsing rate.
I also looked up the earths crust which on land it 30 to 70 Km deep.
The sea crust is 6 to 11 km deep. If this 60 hertz line frequency that
is pulsing together with the earth molten iron core, Causing a hum
that the earths crust is acting as a resonator.
If this is the case, then I would think that in the mountain ranges
where the earth crust is thicker, you might not hear a hum or not as bad.
The next question is on the filters, How did the filter cut the Hum
unless the house or electric box was acting as a resonator.
Still a lot of unanswered questions.
Ken
Here is good information on electric and how it can cause currents to
flow in wires, heating ducts and steel beams. There was a person I
believe on this forum that stated there was a new building built
across from them. Ever since, they have picked up a hum. I would go
down to page 22 on this document and read about this electric current
being pick up by the ducts and wires. It also shows how the magnetic
fields of electric currents that was measured follow halls and buildings.
www.vitatech.net/pdf/ENG_GUIDE.pdf
Ken
Hi everyone, I have been somewhat in hiding for the last few years,
another "sensitive" person who can pick up vibrations from people,
animals, machines etc. I live in an area 10 miles away from a nuclear
naval base, there are several noted underwater pasages from alaska to
new mexico, we do not get cell phone sevice on our property at all
(just outside our property seems to be different)mysterious things
have been happening here, ive heard every explaination possible. just
recently the hum ive been hearing has had a tone change, i have asked
a friend who works on the naval base if they are doing any underwater
drilling, explosion..whatever? of course he said no and that the subs
were "silent" when in the water ( i think different) i understand the
vibrations from earthquakes could be a possibility but with the
varying depths and magnitudes iam still leary that these hums i hear
are from volcanos or earthquakes. sometimes its as if its hovering
over my home. the hum seems to be consistant however its gotten
louder over the past week or so. Iam not one to seek out answers to
these kinds of things but i found myself losing my mind trying to
figure out where the hum was coming from. ive read everything from
the" haarp, to ufos, you name it and nothing makes sense, possibly
the only thing that does is the volcanic/earthquake scenario, since
we live on the fault line and small earthquakes are recorded daily.
maybe the big one is coming? LOL. ths really is no laughing matter, i
just thank god iam not losing my grip and there are a huge amount of
people who are experiencing this as well. if you have any suggestions
I would appreciate the piece of mind. thank you!
Starrgazzer,
To have peace of mind......You would have to move from your present
location. Nothing else works.
In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "starrgazzer44" <starrgazzer44@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, I have been somewhat in hiding for the last few years,
> another "sensitive" person who can pick up vibrations from people,
> animals, machines etc. I live in an area 10 miles away from a
nuclear
> naval base, there are several noted underwater pasages from alaska
to
> new mexico, we do not get cell phone sevice on our property at all
> (just outside our property seems to be different)mysterious things
> have been happening here, ive heard every explaination possible.
just
> recently the hum ive been hearing has had a tone change, i have
asked
> a friend who works on the naval base if they are doing any
underwater
> drilling, explosion..whatever? of course he said no and that the
subs
> were "silent" when in the water ( i think different) i understand
the
> vibrations from earthquakes could be a possibility but with the
> varying depths and magnitudes iam still leary that these hums i
hear
> are from volcanos or earthquakes. sometimes its as if its hovering
> over my home. the hum seems to be consistant however its gotten
> louder over the past week or so. Iam not one to seek out answers to
> these kinds of things but i found myself losing my mind trying to
> figure out where the hum was coming from. ive read everything from
> the" haarp, to ufos, you name it and nothing makes sense, possibly
> the only thing that does is the volcanic/earthquake scenario, since
> we live on the fault line and small earthquakes are recorded daily.
> maybe the big one is coming? LOL. ths really is no laughing matter,
i
> just thank god iam not losing my grip and there are a huge amount
of
> people who are experiencing this as well. if you have any
suggestions
> I would appreciate the piece of mind. thank you!
>
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