--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Christina" <ckerekes108@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Just joined the forum and I am excited to read everyone's stories.  I have
some very interesting facts to share with you all that may provide you with some
additional food for thought, or even more questions, depending on how you look
at it!  :-)
> Here is a synopsis:
> -  I live in a remote area of Ontario, Canada, on 100 acres of private land,
surrounded by more unspoiled wilderness.
> -  There are no power lines anywhere nearby, and we ourselves are off-grid, so
no lines to our home or along our road.
> -  We get no cell phone reception here; I believe the nearest cell tower is
over 50 km's away at least.
> -  There are no military bases nearby, no fly-by activities.
> -  This is not an area of seismic activity
> This leads me to the conclusion that perhaps the sound could be coming from
the Earth itself!  There are scientific recordings of the sound of the Sun,
which also sounds like a low frequency hum.  Here are some recordings from
Stanford U research:
> http://soi.stanford.edu/results/sounds.html
> Could it be that all planets, starts, spherical bodies have a low frequency
hum emanating from them?
> I have been hearing the Hum here on my piece of paradise for over 3 years,
pretty much every night although on windy summer nights it is harder to hear.  I
hear it equally loud both inside and outside my home, like a distant, idling
train.  All my guests, after being here for at least 3 days, claim to be hearing
it.  My father-in-law, who suffers from tinnitus, has claimed that staying here
for a week cured him of his tinnitus.  He too began hearing the Hum towards the
end of his stay, faintly, but he could hear it.
> Since moving here from the big city of Toronto, I have definitely been
sleeping much less -- some would even call it insomnia, one of the symptoms of
Hum sufferers.  Surprisingly though, I am not at all tired.  I used to need a
daily shut-eye during the day while living in the city, but no longer.  I am
vibrant and full of energy.
> I meditate daily, and the Hum is my constant companion.  I have learned to
live with the Hum, I find it a great practice in awareness.  When my mind
wanders, the sound of the Hum brings me back to the present moment.
> I am not inclined to think this phenomenon is negative.  I can see that for
some it can be irritating, but I have chosen to accept it and make it a part of
my life, rather than fight it or have it upset me.  The Hum and I live quite
contentedly side by side!  :-)
> Christina
>
Hi Christina, I live in Ontario too, Northumberland County, southern ont. best
kept secret.  I too use to meditate.  I find the hum an intrusion.  It has taken
the place of restful peace for me.
Unlike you I can not let this go into the realm of acceptance.

This sounds like broad denouncement of of what people know they see Bill!
I see Chemtrails at a few thousand feet over my house most days. Contrails are
not normally formed below 20+ thousand feet. They exist long term at temps of
-40C -this does not not pertain at a few thousand feet.
I know old film of WW2 show dogfight trails over Kent etc -at lowish heights,
but not how long they lasted.[These from piston engines also]
The chemtrails I know I'm talking about last hours and hours- before dispersing
at low levels often into a murky sunset, never usual decades ago.
I'm fully aware that their existence is getting more mention even though subtle
efforts are made to counteract comment.A recent radio program in the UK made
some blatant assertions about trails and my email to the BBC was ignored, as I
expected.
I have many photos of Cts at a few thou. feet and a higher plane showing a
pencil streak, fast disappearing contrail- thats Normal!
Reality is best- theories follow fashion sometimes...

--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Curry" <bpcurry@...> wrote:
>
> Carole,
>
>     There have been published scientific articles about auroral sounds, but I
am at a loss to remember where I saw this information.  Search Google and you
may find a geophysics journal that had an article on the subject.
>


--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Curry" <bpcurry@...> wrote:
>
> Carole,
>
>     There have been published scientific articles about auroral sounds, but I
am at a loss to remember where I saw this information.  Search Google and you
may find a geophysics journal that had an article on the subject.
>
>     Now, I want to sound off on one of my pet peeves.  I repeat that contrail
is a correct description of a fluid mechanical phenomeon that occurs in the
upper atmosphere.  At jet plane altitudes, vortices from aircraft stir up the
very cold, very thin atmosphere and cause small ice particles to precipitate
out.  The fluid mechanical forces cause these particles to form contrails.  Not
only has this been observed near airports, but also in wind tunnels, if I recall
correctly. In an area where many jet planes are flying there are so many narrow
contrails that atmospheric mixing and diffusion cause the many individual clouds
to cluster together into fomations that eventually become cirrus clouds. Note
that no chemical reactions ae involved in forming these contrails.  So many
people have taken to calling contrails chemtrails, that I thought I should
correct the apparent misconception that a chemical reaction is involved in the
process of creating visible contrails.
>
> Regards, Bill Curry
> Retired Physicist
>
>

Hi All,
Just joined the forum and I am excited to read everyone's stories.  I have some
very interesting facts to share with you all that may provide you with some
additional food for thought, or even more questions, depending on how you look
at it!  :-)
Here is a synopsis:
-  I live in a remote area of Ontario, Canada, on 100 acres of private land,
surrounded by more unspoiled wilderness.
-  There are no power lines anywhere nearby, and we ourselves are off-grid, so
no lines to our home or along our road.
-  We get no cell phone reception here; I believe the nearest cell tower is over
50 km's away at least.
-  There are no military bases nearby, no fly-by activities.
-  This is not an area of seismic activity
This leads me to the conclusion that perhaps the sound could be coming from the
Earth itself!  There are scientific recordings of the sound of the Sun, which
also sounds like a low frequency hum.  Here are some recordings from Stanford U
research:
http://soi.stanford.edu/results/sounds.html
Could it be that all planets, starts, spherical bodies have a low frequency hum
emanating from them?
I have been hearing the Hum here on my piece of paradise for over 3 years,
pretty much every night although on windy summer nights it is harder to hear.  I
hear it equally loud both inside and outside my home, like a distant, idling
train.  All my guests, after being here for at least 3 days, claim to be hearing
it.  My father-in-law, who suffers from tinnitus, has claimed that staying here
for a week cured him of his tinnitus.  He too began hearing the Hum towards the
end of his stay, faintly, but he could hear it.
Since moving here from the big city of Toronto, I have definitely been sleeping
much less -- some would even call it insomnia, one of the symptoms of Hum
sufferers.  Surprisingly though, I am not at all tired.  I used to need a daily
shut-eye during the day while living in the city, but no longer.  I am vibrant
and full of energy.
I meditate daily, and the Hum is my constant companion.  I have learned to live
with the Hum, I find it a great practice in awareness.  When my mind wanders,
the sound of the Hum brings me back to the present moment.
I am not inclined to think this phenomenon is negative.  I can see that for some
it can be irritating, but I have chosen to accept it and make it a part of my
life, rather than fight it or have it upset me.  The Hum and I live quite
contentedly side by side!  :-)
Christina

For anyone who has noticed that our skies aren't as clear as they used to be,
this video might help explain
that.  It's a world map, and the yellow dots represent airplanes that are in the
air over a 24-hour period,
condensed down to about two minutes.  You can see the pattern of
daylight/nighttime move across the globe, and
the swarms of planes that fly first in one direction, and then the other.  No
wonder our skies are so
polluted!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1US_4uf4YE

Carole

Thanks, Bill.  I'll check it out.

As for the contrail/chemtrail debate, it's hopeless.  There are so many people
out there who WANT to believe
that our governments, or the Illuminati, or just "they", are trying to kill all
us ordinary folk off.  It's
not just aluminum, barium, and other chemicals that they're supposedly putting
into the atmosphere.  Now
they're spraying H1N1 virus, or maybe it's the pneumonic plague...  And the flu
vaccine is designed to make
folks sicker if they get the flu!

I'll believe it when the mass die-off begins...

Carole


----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Curry

Carole,

     There have been published scientific articles about auroral sounds, but I am
at a loss to remember where I
saw this information.  Search Google and you may find a geophysics journal that
had an article on the subject.

     Now, I want to sound off on one of my pet peeves.  I repeat that contrail is
a correct description of a
fluid mechanical phenomeon that occurs in the upper atmosphere.  At jet plane
altitudes, vortices from
aircraft stir up the very cold, very thin atmosphere and cause small ice
particles to precipitate out.  The
fluid mechanical forces cause these particles to form contrails.  Not only has
this been observed near
airports, but also in wind tunnels, if I recall correctly. In an area where many
jet planes are flying there
are so many narrow contrails that atmospheric mixing and diffusion cause the
many individual clouds to cluster
together into fomations that eventually become cirrus clouds. Note that no
chemical reactions ae involved in
forming these contrails.  So many people have taken to calling contrails
chemtrails, that I thought I should
correct the apparent misconception that a chemical reaction is involved in the
process of creating visible
contrails.

Regards, Bill Curry
Retired Physicist

----- Original Message -----

From: Carole C

To: humforum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Has the hum ceased anywhere in the last 10 days?

 

How do you know when HAARP is transmitting? Is there a website where they post their schedule? I've looked
at their official website, but haven't seen a schedule there. Can you direct me to a page that shows when
they are transmitting? Thanks!

Carole

----- Original Message -----
From: Sandra Shultz

Chemtrails.........Sounds like HAARP to me. HAARP has been broadcasting quite a lot for the last two months.
I've even heard the HUM here in Mississippi.....coming from the West. It had been so quite here.....I though
it was gone. Not so in LA. Now I can hear the direction......West. Quite totally today with the north wind
and rain.

--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Arne" <stonehollowmn@...> wrote:
>
> I had not, as far as I remember (but have now).  His paper is primarily
> directed at cell phone frequencies, and use of cell phones (i.e., phone to
> the ear).  The specific item you mention is in regard to cell phone
> frequencies (and does not mention perceived sounds).  He mentions
> milliwatt/cm2 - we're probably talking about picowatt/cm2 intensities for
> received signals (vs broadcast from a cell phone).  I cannot get a cell
> phone signal where we go canoeing, so it's hard to see how that could be it.
>
>
> There is one section discussing microwave hearing - primarily in close
> proximity to transmitters.  I can't think of a reason for an all-pervasive,
> high energy microwave field in a wilderness area - there's literally nothing
> there to receive it.  This year (mid September) it was the same everywhere I
> went.  On the lake, in the tent, on a bluff, in a narrows - didn't matter.
> I would expect microwaves to be attenuated behind a 100' granite cliff,
> unless it was omnidirectional.  In that case, we're talking about truly huge
> amounts of power.
>
> Peaceful sleep was easily achieved through extreme physical exertion - no
> masking requiredJ.   Great sleeping weather too!
>
> I still think my "hum" has an internal source; I can't conceive of another,
> rational/reasonable explanation.
>
> In Lai's paper under heading Thermal and Nonthermal Effects, page 4, he does
highlight the auditory effect, where the microwave pulse is converted to thermal
energy.

I'm just wondering here, Does anyone know if they have attenuating devices that
are indepent, something like magnets, that they place in between tower sites.

I'm pretty sure it's my cochlea that is being effected, I can not block the
pulsed sound out with ear plugs.  The Microwave Auditory Effect explains my
symptoms.
Something else I noticed this summer they have started transmitting data from
doplar and flood control by using solar panels and I think WIFI.
Patty
>
> Arne
>
> Central MN USA
>
>
>
> From: humforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of patty94@...
>
> Arne, have you read the papers by Henry Lai? Neurological Effects of
> Radiofrequency Electromagnetic Radiation. ( How did you get to go camping
> hearing the hum, did you mask the sound at night?)
> Lai states that the intensity provides little information on the biological
> consequence unless the amount of energy absorbed by the irradiated object is
> known. SAR.
> So far my understanding is saying that each persons perception will have
> different tonal characteristics and different physical manifestations due to
> the different density characteristics of each individual.
>

How do you know when HAARP is transmitting?  Is there a website where they post
their schedule?  I've looked
at their official website, but haven't seen a schedule there.  Can you direct me
to a page that shows when
they are transmitting?  Thanks!

Carole

----- Original Message -----
From: Sandra Shultz


Chemtrails.........Sounds like HAARP to me.  HAARP has been broadcasting quite a
lot for the last two months.
I've even heard the HUM here in Mississippi.....coming from the West.  It had
been so quite here.....I though
it was gone.  Not so in LA.  Now I can hear the direction......West.  Quite
totally today with the north wind
and rain.

--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Trevor G" <trevgillett2005@...> wrote:
>No cease here, nor do I hold out hope that it will, all I can do is distract
myself and mask the sound.  We've had some nice winds this year that have
helped, but when it's still it's difficult.

Arne, have you read the papers by Henry Lai?  Neurological Effects of
Radiofrequency Electromagnetic Radiation. ( How did you get to go camping
hearing the hum, did you mask the sound at night?)
Lai states that the intensity provides little information on the biological
consequence unless the amount of energy absorbed by the irradiated object is
known.  SAR.
So far my understanding is saying that each persons perception will have
different tonal characteristics and different physical manifestations due to the
different density characteristics of each individual.  Children seem to be the
most at risk because thier brains are still developing, they are just learning
to hear and interpet thier surroundings.
Have any other HUM hearers ever heard the Northern Lights?
Chemtrails or just plain pollution?
Patty

>
> In the UK ,my hum has been dropping out occasionally for a few hours but
> generally on/off cycling in 10s of second periods, varying slightly for
> the past few months.
>
> On the issue of planes- can you identify Chemtrails?
>
> They are low lying and obvious. They persist for hours and spread slowly
> like an expanding web.
>
>
> People don't notice them nowadays, as they never knew clear sky days-
> common even in the early jet-plane days.
>
> I have long associated them, and con-commintent weather changes with the
> Hum .
>
> The planes are likely to be unmarked and [sometimes] have quite
> blackened exhaust areas on the wings trailing edges.
> --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "annereeder" <annereeder@> wrote:
>  
> > The only other thing that was visibly going on here was some type of
> military planes had started flying up over my house.  They had been
> doing these practice flights over west of here, but had not been doing
> them directly up over my house until sometime in October.  They were
> very noisy and disturbing as it is quiet out in this part of the
> country.  They made noises like they were coming down toward the ground
> and would  then go back up and start all over again.
> >
> > The day they had the tragic incident at the base in Texas, the planes
> were flying and they left here immediately after it happened.  I have
> not seen them since.   The next day the hum was gone and has been since.
> So my thoughts are that it must have been  something that was being used
> in relation to them.   I wondered if anyone else had noticing it
> stopping at that time.
> >
> > Anne
>

In the UK ,my hum has been dropping out occasionally for a few hours but
generally on/off cycling in 10s of second periods, varying slightly for
the past few months.

On the issue of planes- can you identify Chemtrails?

They are low lying and obvious. They persist for hours and spread slowly
like an expanding web.


People don't notice them nowadays, as they never knew clear sky days-
common even in the early jet-plane days.

I have long associated them, and con-commintent weather changes with the
Hum .

The planes are likely to be unmarked and [sometimes] have quite
blackened exhaust areas on the wings trailing edges.
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "annereeder" <annereeder@...> wrote:
 
> The only other thing that was visibly going on here was some type of
military planes had started flying up over my house.  They had been
doing these practice flights over west of here, but had not been doing
them directly up over my house until sometime in October.  They were
very noisy and disturbing as it is quiet out in this part of the
country.  They made noises like they were coming down toward the ground
and would  then go back up and start all over again.
>
> The day they had the tragic incident at the base in Texas, the planes
were flying and they left here immediately after it happened.  I have
not seen them since.   The next day the hum was gone and has been since.
So my thoughts are that it must have been  something that was being used
in relation to them.   I wondered if anyone else had noticing it
stopping at that time.
>
> Anne

I didn't notice any change here in Central CA.

Here's an interesting article I ran across that may or may not be significant in
relation to the Hum.
Apparently they think now that microwave radiation from cell phones and towers
might be playing a role in
colony collapse disorder in bees.  If that proves to be true, it could mean the
rest of us are directly
affected in some way, too.  (I know a lot of people already think that, but the
actual proof hasn't been
there.)

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/07/Honeybees-Face-Tow\
ering-Threat-From-Cell-Phones.aspx

I wonder what will happen if they actually prove cell phones are causing
honeybees to die off?  Does anybody
here think that would change anything?  I don't...  I suspect people would
rather live in a barren land and
buy foreign food than give up their cell phones.

Carole


----- Original Message -----
From: annereeder

Hi David, Carole and all,

The reason I asked this question, is I have been almost hum free for the last
four or more years, except for a
few times in which it has come on for a short period and left.  I usually post
here when it does that.

What I have experienced starting in October was a reoccurrence of the hum.  I
knew it was probably from
another source other than the one that had came from my power lines.  They had
put filters on them and they
did a very good job of stopping the hum I heard for 9 years.

The only other thing that was visibly going on here was some type of military
planes had started flying up
over my house.  They had been doing these practice flights over west of here,
but had not been doing them
directly up over my house until sometime in October.  They were very noisy and
disturbing as it is quiet out
in this part of the country.  They made noises like they were coming down toward
the ground and would  then go
back up and start all over again.

The day they had the tragic incident at the base in Texas, the planes were
flying and they left here
immediately after it happened.  I have not seen them since.   The next day the
hum was gone and has been
since.  So my thoughts are that it must have been  something that was being used
in relation to them.   I
wondered if anyone else had noticing it stopping at that time.

Anne

 

Anne,

In east Norman (Oklahoma), it has been pretty much the usual
schedule.  It is "off" and completely silent for about 1/3 to 2/3
of the day, and "on" the rest of the day.  Volume varies.

Last night around 8pm I noticed it came on suddenly
and loudly.  This morning, its gone.  I don't know when
it went off, as I slept until 6:30am.  I run a fan while asleep,
and that effectively masks the Hum.

As I write (10:11am CST), it is blessedly silent, but I
expect the Hum to be back later today.

--DD

-----Original Message-----
From: annereeder
Sent: Nov 14, 2009 8:50 AM
To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: HUM_FORUM: Has the hum ceased anywhere in the last 10 days?

 

Hi all,

 

Has anyone who has been hearing the hum noticed it suddenly going away in the last ten days?  Has it become completely quiet at any hearers locations?  

 

Anne

A hum that changes regularly at a given time of day is probably man-made.  If
anybody is interested in
exploring a possible relationship of the hum to EM sources, natural or man-made,
there are some charts at this
website that could help.  Just keep track of changes you hear, and then compare
them to the various charts,
keeping in mind that the times on the charts are UTC, so you'll have to do a
little math to convert the time
to your local time.  These charts are in the ULF (Schumann Resonances) and VLF
spectra.

http://electricterra.com/Data/

If you explore the website, you'll find charts from other folks around the
planet, too.  I've noticed a
correlation in the past between the hum I hear and the Schumann Resonances.

Carole


----- Original Message -----
From: David Deming


Anne,

In east Norman (Oklahoma), it has been pretty much the usual
schedule.  It is "off" and completely silent for about 1/3 to 2/3
of the day, and "on" the rest of the day.  Volume varies.

Last night around 8pm I noticed it came on suddenly
and loudly.  This morning, its gone.  I don't know when
it went off, as I slept until 6:30am.  I run a fan while asleep,
and that effectively masks the Hum.

As I write (10:11am CST), it is blessedly silent, but I
expect the Hum to be back later today.

--DD



-----Original Message-----
From: annereeder

Hi all,

Has anyone who has been hearing the hum noticed it suddenly going away in the
last ten days?  Has it become
completely quiet at any hearers locations?

Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: annereeder
Sent: Nov 14, 2009 8:50 AM
To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: HUM_FORUM: Has the hum ceased anywhere in the last 10 days?

 

Hi all,

 

Has anyone who has been hearing the hum noticed it suddenly going away in the last ten days?  Has it become completely quiet at any hearers locations?  

 

Anne

----- Original Message -----

From: Arne

To: humforum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:10 PM

Subject: RE: HUM_FORUM: Re: Every month, it seems to be getting worse in Brandon FL (PAINFUL sound now!)

 

NOT credible, because the perceived noise (via microwave auditory effect) is far above that which most hearers experience.  The microwave effect is in the KHz range vs Hz

(http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/106565261/abstract).  It has not been perceived below 5 KHz.

Most of us hear the hum in the range < 100 Hz, which rules out the microwave effect as a source.

Does no one trim emails anymore?

Arne

Central MN USA

From: humforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patty94@ymail.com

…Why shouldn't we be able to interpet the HUM as Microwave Auditory Effect? It is a crediable interpetation and has been attached to this technology for a long time…

--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Donna Few <profitzzzz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Patty,  I certainly did not mean that us hearers do not absorb any of the
energy; I just didn't add the few extra words to my post explaining that.  I
believe that perhaps the hearer's body tries to repel the energy, but is
certainly not fully able to do that.  Yes, I too felt that the hum energy was
being absorbed into my body, especially as many others have said, in the head
region; for me I believed it targeted the head/neck/spine traveling thru the
nervous system.  And, Patty, long before I heard of the hum I told family
members that I felt like the energy was radiation shooting through my body.  I
believe that EMF produces a form of radiation, and I believe that the non
ionizining radiation you speak of has been connected with EMF in the Hum
literature.  I  believe now, that the hum  is generated by  both natural and 
man  made entities.
>
> Donna
>
Hi Donna;  How about not repel, but interpet, as humans we are our senses,
constantly interpeting the world around us.  I have read and understand the
natural environment ( enough of it anyway) as humans I think most of us have
learned to protect ourselves.  When it comes to this Non-Ionizing radiation from
the Telecommunication Towers though, it is becoming almost impossible to avoid
it.
I am thinking of a way to state a case to the International Committee on
Non-Ioninzing Radiation.
Why shouldn't we be able to interpet the HUM as Microwave Auditory Effect?  It
is a crediable interpetation and has been attached to this technology for a long
time.
The new ICNIRP 16/2009 reference review is on line, it would serve us well to
read it.

> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, patty94@... <patty94@...> wrote:
>
> From: patty94@... <patty94@...>
> Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM:   Every month, it seems to be getting worse in Brandon
FL (PAINFUL sound now!)
> To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 7:39 PM
>
>
>
> --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Donna Few <profitzzzz@> wrote:
> >Hi Donna,  I just seem to be not able to give up the nonionizing radiation
theory.  I feel like I'm absorbing it, right to my outer hair cells.  I knew
what I was hearing before I knew how it was possible.  As far as the others
sufferering with EMF exposure I am using thier suffering to help fuel my desire
to edify this situation it really upsets me to know that children are suffering,
people who do not have the internet to get info. are suffering.  We may have
another advatange coming our way.  The newest roll out of broadband thru tribal
areas and the such is going to bring a new wave of individuals, if we keep our
eyes and ears open we and maybe Bill too will see it happening.  People have not
been quiet about the hum when it happens.
> Patty
> > Hi Patty,
> >
> > I agree, I believe it does effect those who don't hear and perhaps even to a
greater extent.  One engineer who visited my home stated that some people can
absorb the energy, whereas the hearers do not absorb it (at least not as
easily).  I've thought about his words and suspect that those who don't
hear/feel the physical sensations such as us, while absorbing it are actually
having the energy enter into their bodies, more so than us hearers, and in
essence could obtain more damage to tissue/organs, etc. A number of nonhearers
living on my street became ill; some actually died. I can't say that the deaths
were caused by the hum energy, but I will say that the deaths of my immediate
neighbors had some suspicious circumstances connected with them.  Think about
it, if we hear the hum and feel its energy impacting our bodies, that might mean
are bodies are repelling the energy vs soaking it in; which could in effect mean
that the energy is less damaging to
> >  our physical health.  This in no way minimizes how horribly we suffer, we
simply know we're suffering and we know what from.  Wish we knew where the what
was coming from.  Perhaps it is a blessing that we are aware of something doing
damage to us.
> >
> > Donna
> >
> > --- On Thu, 11/5/09, patty94@ <patty94@> wrote:
> >
> > From: patty94@ <patty94@>
> > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM:   Every month, it seems to be getting worse in
Brandon FL (PAINFUL sound now!)
> > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 4:42 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Donna Few <profitzzzz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Greenhorn3k,
> > >
> > > It hurts I know.  Perhaps the most painful part of it, is believing that
it is deliberate and with total disrespect for mankind.  Can you escape it even
if for a short period, a few days at a hotel way out of your home area; at a
friend's or family's home?  I had a recent thought that perhaps the government
leaders, across continents, believe that what ever they are doing, if they are
indeed doing anything that causes this hum, is in the best interest of humanity
at large ( on a very large scale).  I do hope that you can escape your torment
at least temporary if not permanently.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Donna
> > >
> > Hi Greenhorn;  Something I experienced lately that seemed to mediate the
suffering was extended floating in a pool.  It help to facilatate the release of
endorphines, it helped me feel better, I wish I could do it everyday.
> > Another observation I had was visiting with a friends mother who is
suffering from alzhiemers, as we were speaking I happened to hear the hum and
then she said now I've forgotten what I was going to say.
> >
> > So far as a deliberate on behalf of the governments, I'm going on the
concept that all of us are being effected whether we hear the waves or not. 
Allan Frey had reported that it effects the opiates in the brain of hearers and
I have a suspicion that it effects the opiates to (keep it simple) in others
brains also.
> >
> > Patty
> > > --- On Wed, 11/4/09, greenhorn3k <guessblacklist@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: greenhorn3k <guessblacklist@>
> > > Subject: HUM_FORUM:   Every month, it seems to be getting worse in Brandon
FL (PAINFUL sound now!)
> > > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 11:44 AM
> > >
> > > It seems like it started out as vibration (in late Jul 2008), increased to
sound (in late Dec 2008), increased to loud sound, changed direction from the
north to south the first time and multiple times since (Aug 2009), now in
November 2009 it has increased to a PAINFUL level of sound, yet those around me
cannot hear it!
> > >
> > > November 3, it was loud and painful a lot of the day, Wednesday morning
(Nov 4) I woke up to the vibration and sound, was up for a while, then around
5:15 AM the sound changed and it has been painful/strong vibration for over an
hour, and I expect it to last a BAD long time!
> > > (It actually doesn't seem as loud, but it is painful, which is WORSE!)
> > >
> > > Man, it hurts my ears, how can some corporation/government entity etc NOT
know that they are creating harmful waves and that is bothering some people???
> > > Are they so ignorant? My guess is YES.
> > >
> > > Brandon (Hillsborough County) FL, land of ignorant anti-citizen government
and overdevelopment.
> > > It actually used to be a nice place to live.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>

I thought that it was from the transformer too. But when I go to the street, I
don't hear anything. Thanks for the tip of the white noise device. I will check
it out. The noise goes away at 8 AM. Last night I didn't hear anything. I am not
sure if it was because I was so tired and nothing could wake me up or if the hum
was gone.

Btw, my wife hears the hum too.

Roberto

--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Carole C" <CcSelene7@...> wrote:
>
> You sure you're not picking up a hum from a transformer?  Does the sound taper
off, or is it loud and then
> just suddenly shuts off at 8:00 am?  That could be a clue...  (Some device
that produces a hum when it's in
> "stand-by" mode, but the hum goes away when the device is turned on?)
>
> I have an active noise-cancelling headset.  Mine is made by Audio-Technica,
but they're also made by Bose and
> probably other companies as well.  It doesn't do anything to cancel the hum...
The hum just seems louder when
> background noise is cancelled out.
>
> You might try a "white noise" device instead.  I have one that's sold by
Hammacher Schlemmer that's just a
> simple box with a fan inside, and holes in the top and sides.  It produces a
simple wind noise, and can be
> adjusted to alter the sound.  I thought it worked pretty well to cancel the
hum, and I liked it better than
> the electronic "recordings" of ocean and/or water noises.  (If you're
interested, it's item no. 60586 at
> www.hammacher.com.  You might be able to find it, or similar items, elsewhere
too.)
>
> Carole
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roberto" <rnhuch@...>
> To: <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 9:28 PM
> Subject: HUM_FORUM: The hum in San Rafael, CA
>
>
> I started to hear this hum earlier this week. Since then, I wake up in the
middle of the night and try to
> follow the noise. All appliances are off. It seems to be stronger on the
living room and in the room closer to
> the street. I just hear the noise inside my home. When I go outside, I don't
hear anything. The hum goes away
> at 8am.
>
> Is there any consultant that could help me out? Is there any noise
cancellation device in the market?
>