One of the pieces of equipment at the HARRP site is a Spectrum Analyzer
that displays the amount of energy it received in a band from 1 to 30
MHz for the last 36 hours.
(http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/data/spectrum2/www/hf.html) This type
of chart is called a WaterFall chart. The vertical axis is Frequency,
the horizontal access is time and the signal intensity is color coded.
Since discovering this page, I have visited frequently to check on the
general propagation conditions. Today I noticed something interesting.
For the first time, there is a very strong (yellow) signal in the 3 MHZ
range, followed by similar signals in the middle 6 MHz range, high 9 MHz
range, high 12 MHz range, continuing upward in a harmonic progression.
As described in their website, this is an automated system. It just
records data and publishes html pages without much human intervention.
And, when HAARP is active, it should also record the energy at the HAARP
main frequency, and if there are any non linearities about, some
harmonic energy as well - which is pretty much what we see.
Therefore, one should be able to monitor this link and can determine
when the HAARP transmitter was operational. Since the time scale is
UTC , you can simply ajust the time to your local time zone.
(Anchorage is UTC - 9 and Minnesota is UTC -6. ) Now that you have
the time, you can correlate the times you hear the Hum with the actual
times that HAARP is active!
If you hear the Hum when HAARP is not transmitting, then HAARP can not
be the source.
Kallio
Minneapolis, Minnesota
COOL BEANS!!!
I'll check 'er out.
Thanks - WEELS ( Northern NY)
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "kallio_mn" <kallio_mn@...> wrote:
>
>
> One of the pieces of equipment at the HARRP site is a Spectrum Analyzer
> that displays the amount of energy it received in a band from 1 to 30
> MHz for the last 36 hours.
> (http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/data/spectrum2/www/hf.html) This type
> of chart is called a WaterFall chart. The vertical axis is Frequency,
> the horizontal access is time and the signal intensity is color coded.
>
> Since discovering this page, I have visited frequently to check on the
> general propagation conditions. Today I noticed something interesting.
> For the first time, there is a very strong (yellow) signal in the 3 MHZ
> range, followed by similar signals in the middle 6 MHz range, high 9 MHz
> range, high 12 MHz range, continuing upward in a harmonic progression.
>
> As described in their website, this is an automated system. It just
> records data and publishes html pages without much human intervention.
> And, when HAARP is active, it should also record the energy at the HAARP
> main frequency, and if there are any non linearities about, some
> harmonic energy as well - which is pretty much what we see.
>
> Therefore, one should be able to monitor this link and can determine
> when the HAARP transmitter was operational. Since the time scale is
> UTC , you can simply ajust the time to your local time zone.
> (Anchorage is UTC - 9 and Minnesota is UTC -6. ) Now that you have
> the time, you can correlate the times you hear the Hum with the actual
> times that HAARP is active!
>
> If you hear the Hum when HAARP is not transmitting, then HAARP can not
> be the source.
>
> Kallio
> Minneapolis, Minnesota
>
There are numerous HAARP Facilities around the world not just the one know facility in Alaska. This is from Wikipedia -
Current facilities
The United States has three ionospheric heating facilities: the HAARP, the HIPAS, near Fairbanks, Alaska, and (currently offline for modifications) one at the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico. The European Incoherent Scatter Scientific Association (EISCAT) operates an ionospheric heating facility, capable of transmitting over 1 GW [5] (1,000,000,000 watts) effective radiated power (ERP), near Tromsø in Norway. Russia has the Sura ionospheric heating facility, in Vasilsursk near Nizhniy Novgorod, capable of transmitting 190 MW ERP.
In addition I am sure that they are other similar facilities that are Top Secret and not know about. How would we ever have any idea if the HUM was caused by one of these other facilities?
Last night in Vancouver, BC the HUM was much lower in pitch than usual and was louder as well.
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "kallio_mn" <kallio_mn@...> wrote:
> If you hear the Hum when HAARP is not transmitting, then HAARP can not
> be the source.
>
> Kallio
> Minneapolis, Minnesota
>
Flip side- what if you don't hear the hum when it's transmitting? :<)
IMO, sometimes hearers get caught up in looking FOR something rather
than considering what's not present.
Coer
wish I could get some those lab coats over with the fancy equipment in order to locate and identify my hum. Hell, I'd give them a room to sleep in overnight, whatever it takes. I know come warmer weather the hum will rise up like a Phoenix. What pain in the a** it is.
Selene <CcSelene7@...> wrote:
Not to mention we'd probably be considered a "national security risk" and locked up for the rest of our lives...
Carole
----- Original Message ----- From: "kallio_mn" <kallio_mn@yahoo.com> To: <humforum@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:40 AM Subject: HUM_FORUM: Job opening for Hummers
I went into a career in electronics out of an interest in Receiver design. It is still an area of interest. I have spend much of my recent free time reading about ELF research. While these signals propagate well through seawater and the Earth, they are still weak signals. Stanford University has made some wonderful advances in low noise receiver design.
There are great many problems building receivers for the ELF frequencies: 1/F noise and thermal noise setting physical limits. Then you have the terrestrial sources of noise: Telluric currents, Schumann Resonances, and the harmonic series from the Power Grids. It is tough building a device to receive these
signals.
So if HAARP and any of the other ionospheric research projects are the cause of the Hum, then we all can get an immediate windfall. Since we are so sensitive to the Hum, we simply contract ourselves out to the military, NASA, and NSF as living receivers. This certainly would open up some travel opportunities. Unfortunately, the view might be very limited in a Nuclear Strike submarine. And there might also be some physical risk in that some of those potential customers might want to "open up" the receiver a bit and see how it works.
Kallio Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Posting Guidelines:
1. The orientation of this forum is scientific, with everything that implies. Reasoned and articulate criticism of ideas and theories is welcome. 2. The following are not allowed: personal attacks, gratuitous profanity, "kook" posts, and supernatural explanations. 3. Limit posts to those
that are necessary and have substantive content. In general, no more than three per person per day. 4. If you hear the Hum, please post your location at: www.frappr.com/humhearers Yahoo! Groups Links
A few clicks off of a Google search for EISCAT yields the following
sites:
The EISCAT site if very open and worth poking around in.
EISCAT radar sites/frequencies: http://www.eiscat.rl.ac.uk/radars/
EISCAT current/planned schedule: http://www.eiscat.rl.ac.uk/campaigns/
EISCAT real time data page:
http://www.eiscat.rl.ac.uk/data/real-time/
HAARP data pages:
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/data.html
The data pages at these sites show spectrums from ELF to UHF. The
receivers used at these sites are calibrated and super sensitive. If a
signal is being transmitted elsewhere and is strong enough to be
received (propagation permitting) it will show up at these sites as
well. I find it quite useful to have a whole series of receiver data
right at my finger tips. All I need is the time and motivation to look
at them.
If we have some great mystery transmitter blasting out GigaWatts of
power covering the world in the HUM, then it will show up on these
automated receivers. If not, then all we have to do is move to Gakona,
Tromso, and Soldankyla to escape the Hum. (I have been to
Soldankyla!).
I would be surprised if Arecibo does not have a website. Just have not
had time to go peek.
People! Get out there an explore these websites. The better informed
you become, the better you will feel.
Kallio
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Mark Spevakow <mspev@...> wrote:
> > capable of transmitting over 1 GW [5] (1,000,000,000 watts)
effective radiated
> > power (ERP), near Tromsų in Norway. Russia has the Sura
ionospheric heating
> > facility, in Vasilsursk near Nizhniy Novgorod, capable of
transmitting 190 MW
> > ERP.
ERP = effective radiated power.
See wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_radiated_power
These are typically highly directional transmitters. UHF is
essentially line of sight transmission. So if you are interested in
sending signals into the ionosphere instead of cooking all the
chickens in a 30 mile radius, you use a highly directional antenna.
Nearly all of the energy is directed skyward. A 30 degree beam
instead of a 360 degree yields an effective antenna gain of 12.
> >
> >
> In addition I am sure that they are other similar facilities that
are Top
> Secret and not know about. How would we ever have any idea if the
HUM was
> caused by one of these other facilities?
While the intended use of these sites may remain secret,that is about
all. If they are transmitting, they will appear on Spectrum Monitors.
If the signal propagates, they can be monitored. With a frequency and
time of transmission, they can be triangulated and physically located.
Radio is one of those things that is just outside human perception.
Faraday predicted radio mathematically. It took another 40 years
before Hertz could experimentally confirm its presence.
Electromagnetics requires faith. It works. It exists. We can't see
it, normally not can feel it. As an organism, we do not know if it is
present or not, nor in what magnitude. But we are bathed in a sea of
Electromagnetic energy. That is what a Spectrum Analyzer/Monitor
shows us.
There are numerous HAARP Facilities around the world not just the one know facility in Alaska. This is from Wikipedia -
Current facilities
The United States has three ionospheric heating facilities: the HAARP, the HIPAS, near Fairbanks, Alaska, and (currently offline for modifications) one at the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico. The European Incoherent Scatter Scientific Association (EISCAT) operates an ionospheric heating facility, capable of transmitting over 1 GW [5] (1,000,000,000 watts) effective radiated power (ERP), near Tromsų in Norway. Russia has the Sura ionospheric heating facility, in Vasilsursk near Nizhniy Novgorod, capable of transmitting 190 MW ERP.
In addition I am sure that they are other similar facilities that are Top Secret and not know about. How would we ever have any idea if the HUM was caused by one of these other facilities?
Last night in Vancouver, BC the HUM was much lower in pitch than usual and was louder as well.
I have posted a new file (including my markups) that I believe shows the
ELF signal generation from the HAARP facility. These come from the ELF
receiver in Chistochina Alaska. At the bottom of this file is the HF
waterfall chart up to the same time, showing a strong signal at HAARP
while the ELF signals were active.
In this file, you can clearly see the step wise increment in frequency
of the ELF wave, starting at 800 Hz and progressing to over 3 KHz.
Each ELF emission lasts for about 3 seconds each. We then have what looks like a 8 second frequency sweep test, starting below 500 Hertz and progressing linearly upward in frequency to over 3 KHz.
The main point I want to make with this is the following: We can use
HAARP's own equipment to aid to determining if HAARP is one source of
the Hum. The ELF receiver at Chistochina is real time online ELF
receiver. And it has been demonstrated that it can record ELF events.
(Interestingly, the ELF receiver in Juneau does not show a clear ELF
signal in the same time interval, but an increase in noise instead.
Since both receivers are real time and online, they can provide a window
into the ELF spectrum. The limitation is that they are located in
Alaska. But if the Hum is able to propagate over large regions of the
country ( if not the world) , then it should be visible on these
receivers as well. If some other transmitter is creating ELF's of any
magnitude, then they should be visible at times on these receivers as
well. Especially when HAARP is idle (Check the HF waterfall chart).
We can correlate this with HAARP by watching if the ELF spectra vanish
when HAARP ceases transmitting.
The step frequency test shows that the events producing the ELF are
controllable. They can walk up/down in frequency and do not linger on
their own. (clean shutoff).
Now that we can watch this in action, we can learn more about how HAARP
works.
The levels of infrasound and low frequency noise from wind turbines are very low, and decrease with distance, although these noises are often included in statements by objectors. The remaining noise problem from wind turbines is the amplitude modulated aerodynamic noise from the blades. This is modulated by the rotation of the blades at about once per second and is not low frequency noise, but noise in the region of, say 500Hz to 1000Hz, which rises and falls in level at about one per second, giving the characteristic swish - swish of the turbines. It is not yet possible to confidently predict the occurrence of this noise, as it depends on wind speed and direction, stratified air temperature etc, but its level is low at normal distances from the turbines. Usually it is not a problem, but if it does hit someone who cannot accept it, it does then become a problem. In the UK only a very small percentage of the 133 windfarms have had this problem and all but one have been resolved. This one is a relatively new installation which is being worked on.
In a message dated 22/01/2008 22:16:20 GMT Standard Time, stonehollowmn@tds.net writes:
I'm not fond of them either, but I'm a looonnnngggg way from them (at least 100 miles). There is a large facility in southern Minnesota. Also, I hear my hum in the wilderness, hundreds of miles from the nearest wind farm.
And, it should be fairly simple to record emissions from them, which I've also not seen.
Arne Central MN, USA
Hi,
When wind farms first appeared , many years ago,
some hum hearers came to light in Wales, downwind of the wind turbines.
To be fair, I have not heard what sort of noise these turbines make,
and modern ones might be quieter?
A pal saw a whole lot of wind turbines running quite fast, in Germany, and listened for me,
(because he knows I run this Helpline, and need to know what they sound like),
then reported on return that he heard no noise coming from them.
I must admit I am rather scared of the prospect of many land-based wind turbines,
after the cluster of Hum sufferers in Wales,
but hopefully they may be mostly offshore for U.K.,
where the winds are generally stronger.
But suppose there were a large installation upwind of a populated area?
Would the residents then be plagued by LFN ?
How awful if lovely quiet areas like Cornwall were swamped by LFN....
Many weather systems come off the Atlantic, so wind power and wave power would do well there.
Also the North Sea on the eastern side of U.K. can be very wild.
I only mention these things in relation to possible extra LFN on land,(from more windfarms),
which I sincerely hope does not materialise,
because I know only too well what terrible distress LFN can cause.
I am trying to listen out for any progress on a proposed windfarm in Dorset (?),
which has met with much local opposition, due to the inevitable spoiling of the landscape....
Hum in Chicago really bad last night and right now. Wind from SE to SSW. No wind turbines I'm aware of for tens of miles.
However, I think maybe it has to do with the Deep Tunnel labrynth. It is such a big bureaucracy don't dont know who to call first.
Snow is melting, but new rain, sleet is coming down and huge snowfall expected tomorrow night. I hear it even through the end arm rest of our couch when I lay down on it.
The levels of infrasound and low frequency noise from wind turbines are very low, and decrease with distance, although these noises are often included in statements by objectors. The remaining noise problem from wind turbines is the amplitude modulated aerodynamic noise from the blades. This is modulated by the rotation of the blades at about once per second and is not low frequency noise, but noise in the region of, say 500Hz to 1000Hz, which rises and falls in level at about one per second, giving the characteristic swish - swish of the turbines. It is not yet possible to confidently predict the occurrence of this noise, as it depends on wind speed and direction, stratified air temperature etc, but its level is low at normal distances from the turbines. Usually it is not a problem, but if it does hit someone who cannot accept it, it does then become a problem. In the UK only a very small percentage of the 133 windfarms have had this problem and all but one have been resolved. This one is a relatively new installation which is being worked on.
In a message dated 22/01/2008 22:16:20 GMT Standard Time, stonehollowmn@tds.net writes:
I'm not fond of them either, but I'm a looonnnngggg way from them (at least 100 miles). There is a large facility in southern Minnesota. Also, I hear my hum in the wilderness, hundreds of miles from the nearest wind farm.
And, it should be fairly simple to record emissions from them, which I've also not seen.
Arne Central MN, USA
Hi,
When wind farms first appeared , many years ago,
some hum hearers came to light in Wales, downwind of the wind turbines.
To be fair, I have not heard what sort of noise these turbines make,
and modern ones might be quieter?
A pal saw a whole lot of wind turbines running quite fast, in Germany, and listened for me,
(because he knows I run this Helpline, and need to know what they sound like),
then reported on return that he heard no noise coming from them.
I must admit I am rather scared of the prospect of many land-based wind turbines,
after the cluster of Hum sufferers in Wales,
but hopefully they may be mostly offshore for U.K.,
where the winds are generally stronger.
But suppose there were a large installation upwind of a populated area?
Would the residents then be plagued by LFN ?
How awful if lovely quiet areas like Cornwall were swamped by LFN....
Many weather systems come off the Atlantic, so wind power and wave power would do well there.
Also the North Sea on the eastern side of U.K. can be very wild.
I only mention these things in relation to possible extra LFN on land,(from more windfarms),
which I sincerely hope does not materialise,
because I know only too well what terrible distress LFN can cause.
I am trying to listen out for any progress on a proposed windfarm in Dorset (?),
which has met with much local opposition, due to the inevitable spoiling of the landscape....
I honestly don't think a movie making use of the HUM, would actually
help much.
The problem is that we do not even know the source of the hum, or if
its man-made or natural, so it is more of an unknown global beast.
As already mentioned, A documentary on the subject would shed more
light on the subject, rather than a sort of scary movie.
Mind you I wish there was an all-action-hero out there who could kill
off the HUM beast, once and for all.
I've been plagued by the Hum for a total of about 46 weeks since 1993,
of which it was present for 6 months continuously between Aug 2004 and
Feb 2005. I'm hearing exactly what almost every else seems to describe.
However, theres another innocuous Hum that I've heard for as long as I
can remember and the problem Hum seems to be due to a qualitative
change in that, such that it suddenly becomes extremely unpleasant and
discordent in tone.
Contrary to everything that's been said, the perception of the Hum can
be stopped using ear defenders or ear plugs provided you also wear a
gum shield. The problem I've had is that gum shields are
uncomfortable to sleep with, and they are far bigger than what's
really needed, which is just a small piece of soft material between
the teeth to damp out sound vibrations in the jaw. Ear plugs are also
uncomfortable but an ear defender headset is relatively comfortable.
So it's technically possible to stop the perception of the Hum, which
is a start. I've known this since 2005.
The mystery is, that even though ear defence as described will stop
it, it doesn't appear to be detectable by any sound meter. Moreover,
when I generate a similar sounding tone on my audio system, which can
reproduce even a 20Hz tone, everyone can hear it very clearly when I
set it at the same subjective volume as the Hum, but nobody else can
hear the Hum iteself. Sound meters easily detect the sound reproduced
by my audio system even when its far quieter and apparently identical
in tone to the Hum. So on the one hand, ear defence designed to stop
sound waves can block the Hum, and on the other hand the Hum does not
appear to be a detectable sound of any kind. It's all extremely
strange.
I hope others will try my experiment with the ear defenders and gum
shield. I used a soft transparent plastic gum shield I ordered on the
Web. I have suggested it before but nobody took any notice as far as
I know. I'm sceptical of all the bizarre theories flying around, even
from so-called scientists. It the Hum was an electromagnetic
phenomenon of any kind then how can a simple plastic ear defender and
gum shield block it? I think it's definitely sound waves but they
can't be straightforward sound waves at the frequency being perceived.
However, the are interference effects that could generate an audible
sound even though each component tone on its own is inaudible.
Perhaps the interference only occurs once the sound gets into the
middle or inner ear.
I had a sound expert out here and he detected some low frequency tones
that were below the threshold of hearing for most people or even all
people. But if any of these tones were interfering with each other
the resulting tone could possibly be louder and it could easily be
discordent. I might be wrong about that, but its true with other
waves as far as I recall. Whatever the Hum is, its real, it's
external, it can easily be blocked, and yet there no practical
equipment to block it with that you can sleep in overnight without
experiencing physical discomfort. A tiny gum shield is needed.
The Hum can be blocked by wearing ear defenders and a gum shield (it
cannot be blocked by ear defenders alone). I expect earplugs would
also work with a gum shield. On the face of it, this suggests the Hum
is acoustic, but I already know that sound meters cannot detect it
even though they can easily detect a very similar and even a much
quieter sound produced by an audio system. So that's a real mystery.
I'll try to find out what ear defenders and a gumshield might block
in addition to sound waves. I'm sure they block infrared and
obviously they block visible light but other than that I don't know.
I can hear the Hum when I wear either a gumsheild or ear defenders but
I can't hear it at all if I wear both together. As far as I'm aware,
nobody else has any other means to block it that works.
Apparently trying to cancel the Hum out with an otherwise identical
sounding tone of oppositve phase would be difficult but I'm going to
try that sometime. Opposite phase in effect means that the crest of
one waves coincides with the trough of the other so that they cancel
out. The problem is if you do this, you might find there are regions
in your home where the phase relationship changes so that the result
is even worse noise than you started with. So you'd be left with
having to wear headphones, in which case you may as well wear ear
defenders.
I hear it outdoors but its seldom noticeable outdoors because the
noise of the wind and cars masks it. It's easy to hear it outdoors if
you go out in the middle of the night when there's no wind. Even so,
it sounds quieter outdoors. I would never bother me if it sounded
the same indoors as it does outdoors.
To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
From: "Paul Trueman" <paultrue1966@...>
Date sent: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:01:17 -0000
Subject: HUM_FORUM: Cornwall, UK .Hum and some observations on how to
stop it being audible.
Send reply to: humforum@yahoogroups.com
>I've been plagued by the Hum for a total of about 46 weeks since 1993,
>of which it was present for 6 months continuously between Aug 2004 and
>Feb 2005. I'm hearing exactly what almost every else seems to describe.
>
>However, theres another innocuous Hum that I've heard for as long as I
>can remember and the problem Hum seems to be due to a qualitative
>change in that, such that it suddenly becomes extremely unpleasant and
>discordent in tone.
>
>Contrary to everything that's been said, the perception of the Hum can
>be stopped using ear defenders or ear plugs provided you also wear a
>gum shield. The problem I've had is that gum shields are
>uncomfortable to sleep with, and they are far bigger than what's
>really needed, which is just a small piece of soft material between
>the teeth to damp out sound vibrations in the jaw. Ear plugs are also
>uncomfortable but an ear defender headset is relatively comfortable.
>So it's technically possible to stop the perception of the Hum, which
>is a start. I've known this since 2005.
>
>The mystery is, that even though ear defence as described will stop
>it, it doesn't appear to be detectable by any sound meter. Moreover,
>when I generate a similar sounding tone on my audio system, which can
>reproduce even a 20Hz tone, everyone can hear it very clearly when I
>set it at the same subjective volume as the Hum, but nobody else can
>hear the Hum iteself. Sound meters easily detect the sound reproduced
>by my audio system even when its far quieter and apparently identical
>in tone to the Hum. So on the one hand, ear defence designed to stop
>sound waves can block the Hum, and on the other hand the Hum does not
>appear to be a detectable sound of any kind. It's all extremely
>strange.
If you sense that vibrations in your teeth are
part of your experience, how about either placing
your teeth on the sound meter's microphone, or
even obtaining a small mic element which is of
exactly the same type (dynamic, crystal,
ceramic, electret etc.), attach it to your sound
meter if possible, and hold it between your
teeth when you hear the sound that the gum
shield helps with?
Eleanor White
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada
Dear Goeff,
I hear the Hum. Most of the time I hear a harmless
background hum that I assumed was normal, although I now know that
hardly anyone else even hears that. I'm 41 and I've heard that hum
since I was an infant. Sometimes I've heard silence. However, on
occasion this background hum changes dramatically in quality and
becomes extremely distressing, and exactly what most people describe.
I would have described it as sounding like a refrigeration unit such
as the supermarkets use, but when it appears, it appears over tens of
miles of countryside. I've heard it from Liskeard to Truro and
northwards to Bodmin and Newquay. It appears simultaneously everywhere
and it disappears simultaneously everwhere. It's different to any
other natural or man made sound though. It has a 'violent' quality to
it. I don't know how else to put it.
I may have said before, that it can be blocked using ear defenders and
a gum shield together. If you use only one or the other it isn't
blocked. I'm not convinced it's sound but what can ear defender and
a gum shield block? Sound meters in my home cannot detect the Hum at
all whereas they can easily detect a very similar sound reproduced
through my audio system at a much lower subjective volume. So
whatever the Hum is, it's not sound of a kind a loudspeaker can
reproduce or a microphone can detect. All the studies seem to show
that although some of the scientists find it hard to accept what the
evidence shows and even proves.
That for me is the mystery. What can my ear defence be blocking if
not sound? The ear defenders are just high density plastic shells and
the gum shield is just a piece of damping material, even a rubber
eraser works. If I was an scientist I'd be going mad to think that
such a conundrum could appear. How do you generate a hypothesis for
this? Nobody's listen to me even though I posted this information two
or three years ago. They're all going on about EMR and gravity waves
on various websites. It's disintegrating into fantasy. The
hypothesese available are: -
If the Hum is not a sound then it's perceived as sound when it gets
into the ears. So that seems to leave electromagnetic phenomena but
not necessarily only EMR. What kind of electromagnetic phenomenon
could be stopped by my ear defence?
Alternatively, if the Hum is a sound, then what kind of sound waves
would be impossible to detect with a sound meter? And the Hum, I'm
certain, is completely undetectable to a microphone. It's not a case
of the microphones being unable to detect low frequency sound well
because I've seen then do it. They work very well at doing that.
Other people can in fact hear a similar noise to the Hum when I
reproduce it through my audio system - I can't remember the exact
frequencies required to emulate the Hum but they were two sine wave
tones between 48Hz and 65Hz and they were discordant. I could even
generate a single sine wave that was discodant with the Hum and
causedd a pusling effect according to how much the two frequencies
differed.
That's everything I know about it. Theres so much unscientific
speculation and people cling to any fanciful new idea that comes along
like they've discovered the final ultimate truth. All that can be said
is there is energy of some kind entering people's ears and causing the
perception of sound. It's not some myserious brain effect with radio
waves or any of that rubbish or an ear defence wouldn't stop it.
You've have to wear a helmet.
I hope that's some help. Most of the time I personally am not troubled
by the problem Hum. What worries me is that it will someday appear
and then fail to disappear, which could leave me in a situation I
can't endure. It's very frightenning frankly. I know that people have
committed suicide over this Hum thing and a lot more must have become
physically seriously ill. Lack of sleep along is enough to knock a
decade off someone's life expectancy if it's chronic. In 2004 I was
troubled with the Hum for 6 months. I had no quality of life at all.
The problem Hum appeared 3 days ago once again and is still present.
It was present in Feb two years ago for about 14 days. I'm 41, not 50
something. I first heard it in 1993 when I was 26. At the moment I
can sleep through it by taking sleeping tablets and thats sustainable
for months if necessary but it's not sustainable for years.
Sincerely,
Paul Trueman
To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
From: "Paul Trueman" <paultrue1966@...>
Date sent: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:53:58 -0000
Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Swansea Hum
Send reply to: humforum@yahoogroups.com
>The Hum can be blocked by wearing ear defenders and a gum shield (it
>cannot be blocked by ear defenders alone). I expect earplugs would
>also work with a gum shield. On the face of it, this suggests the Hum
>is acoustic, but I already know that sound meters cannot detect it
>even though they can easily detect a very similar and even a much
>quieter sound produced by an audio system. So that's a real mystery.
Remember that there are also people who
experience vibration of body parts and
objects which can't be explained by sound,
yet do not hear the common 'idling vehicle'
Hum.
It's possible that some skull parts or tissue,
teeth, what have you, are being vibrated
to produce the hum sound. If that is so,
a sound meter in the air may not be able
to pick it up.
However, a sound meter mic or mic element
in contact with the teeth might.
Eleanor White
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada
I tried two kinds of ear plugs, but the hum was too 'low' and I heard it. I'm not familiar with what you call 'ear defender' and 'gum shield' but I will definitely take your advice and investigate. It'd be great if I could stop it from bothering me with these items. Thanks.
Subject: HUM_FORUM: Cornwall, UK .Hum and some observations on how to stop it being audible.
I've been plagued by the Hum for a total of about 46 weeks since 1993, of which it was present for 6 months continuously between Aug 2004 and Feb 2005. I'm hearing exactly what almost every else seems to describe.
However, theres another innocuous Hum that I've heard for as long as I can remember and the problem Hum seems to be due to a qualitative change in that, such that it suddenly becomes extremely unpleasant and discordent in tone.
Contrary to everything that's been said, the perception of the Hum can be stopped using ear defenders or ear plugs provided you also wear a gum shield. The problem I've had is that gum shields are uncomfortable to sleep with, and they are far bigger than what's really needed, which is just a small piece of soft material between the teeth to damp out sound vibrations in the jaw. Ear plugs are also uncomfortable but an ear defender headset is relatively comfortable. So it's technically possible to stop the perception of the Hum, which is a start. I've known this since 2005.
The mystery is, that even though ear defence as described will stop it, it doesn't appear to be detectable by any sound meter. Moreover, when I generate a similar sounding tone on my audio system, which can reproduce even a 20Hz tone, everyone can hear it very clearly when I set it at the same subjective volume as the Hum, but nobody else can hear the Hum iteself. Sound meters easily detect the sound reproduced by my audio system even when its far quieter and apparently identical in tone to the Hum. So on the one hand, ear defence designed to stop sound waves can block the Hum, and on the other hand the Hum does not appear to be a detectable sound of any kind. It's all extremely strange.
I hope others will try my experiment with the ear defenders and gum shield. I used a soft transparent plastic gum shield I ordered on the Web. I have suggested it before but nobody took any notice as far as I know. I'm sceptical of all the bizarre theories flying around, even from so-called scientists. It the Hum was an electromagnetic phenomenon of any kind then how can a simple plastic ear defender and gum shield block it? I think it's definitely sound waves but they can't be straightforward sound waves at the frequency being perceived. However, the are interference effects that could generate an audible sound even though each component tone on its own is inaudible. Perhaps the interference only occurs once the sound gets into the middle or inner ear.
I had a sound expert out here and he detected some low frequency tones that were below the threshold of hearing for most people or even all people. But if any of these tones were interfering with each other the resulting tone could possibly be louder and it could easily be discordent. I might be wrong about that, but its true with other waves as far as I recall. Whatever the Hum is, its real, it's external, it can easily be blocked, and yet there no practical equipment to block it with that you can sleep in overnight without experiencing physical discomfort. A tiny gum shield is needed.
--- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "coer_12" <coer_12@...> wrote:
>
> --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "kallio_mn" <kallio_mn@> wrote:
>
> > If you hear the Hum when HAARP is not transmitting, then HAARP can not
> > be the source.
> >
> > Kallio
> > Minneapolis, Minnesota
> >
>
> Flip side- what if you don't hear the hum when it's transmitting? :<)
>
> IMO, sometimes hearers get caught up in looking FOR something rather
> than considering what's not present.
>
>
> Coer
>
There are 4 possible combinations for HAARP and the HUM
Case HAARP HUM hearer
1 Not Transmitting Not hearing Hum
2 Not Transmitting Hearing Hum
3 Transmitting Not hearing Hum
4 Transmitting Hearing Hum
If we assume that their could be other sources for the HUM in addtion
to the HAARP, then we can conclude the following.
1) Inconclusive: The lack of a HUM could be due to other reasons.
2) Conclusive: HAARP is not the source of today's Hum. Another
source could be however.
3) Inconclusive: Signal may not be reaching listeners location.
4) Inconclusive: HAARP or another source could be producing the HUM.
All we can say is that case 2 suggests another source of the Hum.
Both HAARP and another source could be producing the HUM, but on days
when HAARP is idle, then it can not be a contributor.
Ear defenders look just like headphones and you can get then from DIY
shops. The gum shield I used was one I bought online but it was
rather too big. I'm sure the ones boxers wear are smaller and more
comfortable. The important thing is that the gumshield goes between
the teeth so that it damps the jaw.
I can still hear the Hum even with all this ear defence, but it's
definitely attenuated by it, especially when you consider that the
remaining Hum isn't masked by any other noises when you're wearing ear
defenders. I think its less than a quarter as loud with the ear
defenders and gum shield in place together, whereas ear defenders or
ear plugs alone make no difference at all and in fact make it sound
even worse.
Paul
Ear defenders and a gum shield can be bought online I think. Ear
defenders look like hi-fi headphones. The gum shield is important as
it damps the vibrations (sounds) in the lower jaw, which is a direct
route into the ear. I don't say this is 100% effective but it's worth
a try. The fit of the gum shield seems to be quite critical though.
It needs to be a snug fit to work best.
If anyone else tries this I'd be interested to know the result,
whether or not it worked.
Paul
From what I understand, the Electrojet (EJ) is a conductive region
where a large current flows from regions of high potential to regions
of lower potential. Since any time varying electric current can
product Electromagnetic waves, then there should be a detectable
spectrum of emissions from the normal Electrojet currents. Random
variations in the EJ should produce a random background noise spectrum.
What HAARP is doing with its ionospheric heater is to change or deflect
the Polar Electrojet in a controlled fashion. If HAARP is able to
induce a change in the amount of current flowing in the EJ (modulate
it) by changing its conductivity (as a function of altitude perhaps),
then the EJ should radiate an Electromagnetic field at the same
frequency that the EJ is being dithered.
The ELF data observed at Chistochina and sometimes Valdez, bear this
out. One can see discrete, swept, and patterned signals. Interesting
enough, I have not seen any HAARP signals at the ELF receiversat Gakona
itself. And, in the period I have been monitoring these, none of the
other receivers. This leads me to believe that the HAARP works, but
not so well that the entire world is bathed in its effects. The HF
waterfall chart should provide a relative indication of transmit signal
intensity. I have not been able to determine the exact power levels
used to produce the ELF results.
Kallio
Minneapolis, Minnesota
To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
From: "Paul Trueman" <paultrue1966@...>
Date sent: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:11:58 -0000
Subject: HUM_FORUM: Ear defenders and gum shield
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>Ear defenders and a gum shield can be bought online I think. Ear
>defenders look like hi-fi headphones.
Ah! Over here, they're called ear *protectors*.
There are also active electronic noise cancelling
devices which may have been the point of
confusion.
Eleanor White
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada
this was an interesting note, as I have been wearing a retainer fit tight on my lower teeth, to stop the vibrations in the lower jaw.....since 1988. It makes a big difference. Nothing helps in the ear defender dept. with the exception of white noise maskers or a white noise headset.
I don't know what I would do without the retainers, and I never mentioned it...thanks for the reminder; it may help others who suffer with the vibrations.
Paul Trueman <paultrue1966@...> wrote:
Ear defenders and a gum shield can be bought
online I think. Ear defenders look like hi-fi headphones. The gum shield is important as it damps the vibrations (sounds) in the lower jaw, which is a direct route into the ear. I don't say this is 100% effective but it's worth a try. The fit of the gum shield seems to be quite critical though. It needs to be a snug fit to work best.
If anyone else tries this I'd be interested to know the result, whether or not it worked.
Paul
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Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Cornwall, UK .Hum and some observations on how to stop it being
Ear defenders look just like headphones and you can get then from DIY shops. The gum shield I used was one I bought online but it was rather too big. I'm sure the ones boxers wear are smaller and more comfortable. The important thing is that the gumshield goes between the teeth so that it damps the jaw.
I can still hear the Hum even with all this ear defence, but it's definitely attenuated by it, especially when you consider that the remaining Hum isn't masked by any other noises when you're wearing ear defenders. I think its less than a quarter as loud with the ear defenders and gum shield in place together, whereas ear defenders or ear plugs alone make no difference at all and in fact make it sound even worse.
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