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#943 From: alan.gcox@...
Date: Sun Apr 1, 2001 6:53 pm
Subject: Audio problem.
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I made my first movie using CD tracks for background sound. I
thought the level was OK, so I imported the movie back into my
camera (and trashed the movie from the iBook). When I played
the movie from the camera to the TV, I felt the CD music was a
bit too loud, so I imported the movie back into the iBook. Then I
found that I could not separate the CD sound from the original
footage sound. Therefore, I could not just lower the sound level
of the CD music.  Is there anyway round this? And whether there
is or isn't, is there anything I can do to deal with the situation in
the future?

Thanks spomeone          Alan

#944 From: Randall Newcomb <rcnewcomb@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 2:08 am
Subject: War Story: Shoot, Edit, Show 30m video in 1 day
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Shooting, editing and showing a 30 minute video in 1 day

I posted a question about shooting, editing and showing a video all in
one day for a middle school improv competition. I received many
excellent suggestions from the list.

Background
The event started at 8AM and needed a video at the end of the day to
(4:30 PM) be a filler while the final score were tallied. After the
video was displayed the awards were given so the audience was motivated
to stay.

Cameras:
Sony PC100
JVC DV camera (borrowed, don't recall the model)
Sony Digital 8 (borrowed)
650 Watt video light

Computers
Two iMacs with iMovie 1.02. networked together (on site)

Setup
The music and titles were chosen and rendered ahead of time.
The interviews were taped in the first hour
The music was broken into sections of 2.5 minutes and each saved under a
different project.
Each project was output to DV tape as it was completed.

Summary
We were able to get 23 minutes of video. About 20 minutes of it was
synchronized with music and about 3 minutes of the final product was
interviews with people at the competition.

Lessons Learned
Solid colored stills were synchronized ahead of time. I.e. for 4 beats
of music I had 4 different colored stills - each of the right duration.
Blue for beat 1, red for beat 2, yellow for beat 3, green for beat 4.
This way I could just split off a portion of a video clip that would be
the correct length, drag it to the project and throw away the still that
it replaced. The video would always change in time to the music.

Based on a suggestion from the group we did a dress rehearsal the
previous weekend which proved valuable. We learned that it took us about
1 hour to shoot and edit each segment. With each computer working on a
different project we would have just enough time. We also learned that
10 minutes of video was needed to give us 2.5 minutes of finished
product - we weren't very choosy.

The group suggested getting several cameras - originally I was just
going to do it all with just the PC-100. The extra cameras made the
difference between success and failure. The digital 8 and JVC weren't
available until about Noon. We should have had them first thing in the
morning. Instead, we had some dead time in the morning - not enough
footage to work with, and in the afternoon we were pressed to time to
handle all the footage. The JVC took images well but had noise in the
firewire feed to the computer. Fortunately the tape could be put in the
PC100 and dumped onto the computer.

We borrowed a 1500 lumen video projector to show the result. If we
hadn't they would have had a 36in TV to show the end product to 1000
people. The problems were: the room was too bright so at times the
projector was washed out. We didn't have a direct feed into a good PA
system. A microphone was placed on top of the 1 in speaker on the video
project. The PA system was ceiling speakers in a gymnasium.

The result was well received but the PA system was inadequate for
interview portions compared to the noisy middle school crowd. Each group
was so busy cheering for themselves when they came on that they never
heard their answers.

Conclusion:
We really respect the people who do this for a living.

We are glad we did it. We might be foolish enough to do it again.

#945 From: Jack Rodgers <macvideo@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 4:53 am
Subject: Re: War Story: Shoot, Edit, Show 30m video in 1 day
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> The JVC took images well but had noise in the
> firewire feed to the computer.

You might consider playing with direct to hard drive dumps from the camera
and bypass the tape (if you are brave enough). This saves the time you would
need to rewind the tape and then replay it for the download. For a half hour
tape this saves at least 32 minutes.

I did this using iMovie and running the GL1 using the start stop controls in
iMovie. You can see the images in iMovie and I thought, can I capture to hd
and sure enough it did.

If you are using a Firewire drive you could just unplug it and move it to
another computer for editing.

I didn't try capturing on tape and hard drive at the same time but that
might work as a backup.


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#946 From: "Mike Lubrecht" <mlube@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 5:17 am
Subject: RE: Audio problem.
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Unfortunately, Alan, when you export an iMovie back to DV it compresses ALL
of the iMovie tracks (original track, music tracks, sound effects tracks)
into two tracks (right and left stereo) onto the DV tape. I'm not aware of
any workarounds. My best advice for the future would be to export your movie
and play it back a few times to make sure you are happy with it before
deleting your copies. The other thing you could do would be to export your
edited iMovie to DV before adding sound effects or music. Then if you decide
to try different soundtracks, you could always re-import the edited cut of
the movie from DV, add your new sound track, and re-export.

-----Original Message-----
From: alan.gcox@... [mailto:alan.gcox@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 11:54 AM
To: iMovie-List@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [iMovie-List] Audio problem.


I made my first movie using CD tracks for background sound. I
thought the level was OK, so I imported the movie back into my
camera (and trashed the movie from the iBook). When I played
the movie from the camera to the TV, I felt the CD music was a
bit too loud, so I imported the movie back into the iBook. Then I
found that I could not separate the CD sound from the original
footage sound. Therefore, I could not just lower the sound level
of the CD music.  Is there anyway round this? And whether there
is or isn't, is there anything I can do to deal with the situation in
the future?

Thanks spomeone          Alan



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#947 From: "Anton Pretorius" <obeco@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 5:41 am
Subject: Re: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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I extract the audio of the clip over which I want to paste, before doing a
Paste over. This gets rid of the "pops".

Anton

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Beck <DanielBeck@...>
To: iMovie-List@yahoogroups.com <iMovie-List@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, 30 March, 2001 10:51 AM
Subject: [iMovie-List] re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS


>I have tried the method you metioned below and found it effective. That is,
>until I tried to do a transition (cross disolve) between the clips. That
>though off my timing. Is there any better way than trial and error to synch
>my clips (and transitions) with a copy of the audio. Or is there another
way
>other than the one suggested below?
>
>Daniel Beck
>
>> RE: Those awful bits of stray noise or *POPS* that occur when you try to
do
>> a Cutaway or "Video Paste Over"
>>
>> Unless ver 2.0.3 corrects this problem, there are only 2 ways I can find
to
>> get around this audio *pop* :
>>
>> #1--
>> A:  Before you do the "cutaway" or paste over, make a copy of the entire
>> clip that you are cutting into, the one with the audio you want to save.
>>
>> B:  Do your "paste-over" or "cutaway",
>>
>> C:  Take your copy of the entire clip and extract the audio from it and
>> move the audio in sync with the clip(s) that now have the paste-over or
>> cutaway in them.
>>
>> D:  Turn OFF the sound for the Clips (the before, PasteOver and after)
>> leaving the un-tampered COPY of the audio as the main audio source for
the
>> sequence.
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#948 From: isetta@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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>I extract the audio of the clip over which I want to paste, before doing a
>Paste over. This gets rid of the "pops".
>
>Anton

I wish it was that easy. It's supposed to be.

Maybe things work differently for you in SA?

I thought I mentioned that I tried that and that it didn't work because
iMovie that actually retains the sound with the clip, but just turns the
volume to zero  (the extracted audio is just a copy of the audio track that
you can move around)

Even exporting the clip to Quicktime Pro and deleting the audio track and
then re-importing the clip back to iMovie and pasting it doesn't completely
cure things.

At the point where there would be a "pop" you get 2 frames of dead silence.

The problem is a known software bug with iMovie2, period.  I'm not going to
re-post the whole bloody experiment I did to confirm what exactly was
causing the sound problem(s)

-Jim

#949 From: Daniel Beck <DanielBeck@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 8:21 pm
Subject: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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Jim,

I'm afraid I have to confirm Anton's method. Note that you extract the audio
from the original main clip before the overlay, and then you turn off the
sound of both the orginal clip and the overlay clip, so that the only audio
is the copy of the undisturbed original clip.

The problem I've found with this is that it is hard to synchronize the sound
and vid if you add, say, a cross fade between original and the overlay. I
wish it didn't take so many steps of hit and miss to line it up.

Daniel

>> I extract the audio of the clip over which I want to paste, before doing a
>> Paste over. This gets rid of the "pops".
>>
>> Anton
>
> I wish it was that easy. It's supposed to be.
>
> Maybe things work differently for you in SA?
>
> I thought I mentioned that I tried that and that it didn't work because
> iMovie that actually retains the sound with the clip, but just turns the
> volume to zero  (the extracted audio is just a copy of the audio track that
> you can move around)
>
> Even exporting the clip to Quicktime Pro and deleting the audio track and
> then re-importing the clip back to iMovie and pasting it doesn't completely
> cure things.
>
> At the point where there would be a "pop" you get 2 frames of dead silence.
>
> The problem is a known software bug with iMovie2, period.  I'm not going to
> re-post the whole bloody experiment I did to confirm what exactly was
> causing the sound problem(s)\

#950 From: Daniel Beck <DanielBeck@...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 8:30 pm
Subject: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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Jim,

I just realized that what Anton recommended was what you suggested in your
previous post as solution #1. I'm not sure why you disagreed with his post
then.

Daniel

>>> I extract the audio of the clip over which I want to paste, before doing a
>>> Paste over. This gets rid of the "pops".
>>>
>>> Anton
>>
>> I wish it was that easy. It's supposed to be.

#951 From: isetta@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 9:24 pm
Subject: Re: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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It still doesn't address the actual software bug problem, which is:

The Clip you are PASTING is the one that will cause the *POP* of sound.

According to Anton's post, he extracts the audio of the Clip he is PASTING INTO.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this would mean:
If you have a 10 second clip and you want to Paste a Video Clip of 2
seconds over the middle of the 10 second Clip, Anton would extract the
Audio from the entire 10 second Clip and then Paste the 2 second Clip into
it.

This would mean the 10 second Clip now has NO sound, until the Pasted Clip
appears, then there would be 2 seconds of sound from THAT Clip, then there
would be no more sound.

True, there is no more *POP*, but there is also no sound for most of the
Clip and this is backwards of how a normal "cutaway" should function.

correct me if I read that wrong though.

Also- in my "solution #1" I DID recommend extracting the Audio from the
Clip just as Anton describes, but then I also mention that you have to then
go back and PUT THE AUDIO BACK after the Paste Over.

=============
repost:
#1--
A:  Before you do the "cutaway" or paste over, make a copy of the entire
clip that you are cutting into, the one with the audio you want to save.

B:  Do your "paste-over" or "cutaway",

C:  Take your copy of the entire clip and extract the audio from it and
move the audio in sync with the clip(s) that now have the paste-over or
cutaway in them.

D:  Turn OFF the sound for the Clips (the before, PasteOver and after)
leaving the un-tampered COPY of the audio as the main audio source for the
sequence.
end repost
=============

so again...it's not that easy.

-Jim


>Jim,
>
>I just realized that what Anton recommended was what you suggested in your
>previous post as solution #1. I'm not sure why you disagreed with his post
>then.
>
>Daniel
>
>>>> I extract the audio of the clip over which I want to paste, before doing a
>>>> Paste over. This gets rid of the "pops".
>>>>
>>>> Anton
>>>
>>> I wish it was that easy. It's supposed to be.

#952 From: DVCPRONBC5@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: War Story: Shoot, Edit, Show 30m video in 1 day
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In a message dated 4/2/01 2:13:42 AM, rcnewcomb@... writes:

<< We really respect the people who do this for a living.

We are glad we did it. We might be foolish enough to do it again.
  >>
       I would be willing to say there is at least 1 kid or more in that room
that will go on and get INTO the business. When I was in 5th grade I was the
one the nuns came to , to thread up the projector. 35 years later I shoot and
edit for bigger audiences.  The nuns were wrong . I did make something out of
myself and didn't end up in jail!  Haha.
Proved them wrong Jim

#953 From: ShirleyKat@...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 10:56 pm
Subject: Re: War Story: Shoot, Edit, Show 30m video in 1 day
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In a message dated 4/1/01 7:13:41 PM, rcnewcomb@... writes:

<< Shooting, editing and showing a 30 minute video in 1 day >>

Wonderful story. Thanks for telling us how it came out.

Shirley

#954 From: "Anton Pretorius" <obeco@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 11:14 am
Subject: Re: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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I remember your test by humming to yourself in one clip, and staying silent
in the next. After reading your test I did the same by recording colourbars
with 1kHz tone, and a matte with no sound. I then pasted the bars over the
matte, and as you said, there was a 4 frame bit of tone on the "cut out"
point.

I then pasted the colour bars with tone over a clip with music, and
obviously the same happened. I then extracted the audio from the music clip,
and then pasted the bars clip, and NO pop.

Note; I extracted the music clip, not the tone. You can not delete the tone,
as you know.

Anton

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Date: Monday, 02 April, 2001 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [iMovie-List] re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS


>>I extract the audio of the clip over which I want to paste, before doing a
>>Paste over. This gets rid of the "pops".
>>
>>Anton
>
>I wish it was that easy. It's supposed to be.
>
>Maybe things work differently for you in SA?
>
>I thought I mentioned that I tried that and that it didn't work because
>iMovie that actually retains the sound with the clip, but just turns the
>volume to zero  (the extracted audio is just a copy of the audio track that
>you can move around)
>
>Even exporting the clip to Quicktime Pro and deleting the audio track and
>then re-importing the clip back to iMovie and pasting it doesn't completely
>cure things.
>
>At the point where there would be a "pop" you get 2 frames of dead silence.
>
>The problem is a known software bug with iMovie2, period.  I'm not going to
>re-post the whole bloody experiment I did to confirm what exactly was
>causing the sound problem(s)
>
>-Jim
>
>
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#955 From: "Anton Pretorius" <obeco@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 11:24 am
Subject: Re: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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Why would the 10 sec clip sound not play if you extract it. I said "I
extracted it", not "I deleted it". Its still there, just on a separate time
line.

Anton  Ps. Maybe you should try it on your machine, it will make more sense.

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Date: Monday, 02 April, 2001 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [iMovie-List] re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS


>It still doesn't address the actual software bug problem, which is:
>
>The Clip you are PASTING is the one that will cause the *POP* of sound.
>
>According to Anton's post, he extracts the audio of the Clip he is PASTING
INTO.
>
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but this would mean:
>If you have a 10 second clip and you want to Paste a Video Clip of 2
>seconds over the middle of the 10 second Clip, Anton would extract the
>Audio from the entire 10 second Clip and then Paste the 2 second Clip into
>it.
>
>This would mean the 10 second Clip now has NO sound, until the Pasted Clip
>appears, then there would be 2 seconds of sound from THAT Clip, then there
>would be no more sound.
>
>True, there is no more *POP*, but there is also no sound for most of the
>Clip and this is backwards of how a normal "cutaway" should function.
>
>correct me if I read that wrong though.
>
>Also- in my "solution #1" I DID recommend extracting the Audio from the
>Clip just as Anton describes, but then I also mention that you have to then
>go back and PUT THE AUDIO BACK after the Paste Over.
>
>=============
>repost:
>#1--
>A:  Before you do the "cutaway" or paste over, make a copy of the entire
>clip that you are cutting into, the one with the audio you want to save.
>
>B:  Do your "paste-over" or "cutaway",
>
>C:  Take your copy of the entire clip and extract the audio from it and
>move the audio in sync with the clip(s) that now have the paste-over or
>cutaway in them.
>
>D:  Turn OFF the sound for the Clips (the before, PasteOver and after)
>leaving the un-tampered COPY of the audio as the main audio source for the
>sequence.
>end repost
>=============
>
>so again...it's not that easy.
>
>-Jim
>
>
>>Jim,
>>
>>I just realized that what Anton recommended was what you suggested in your
>>previous post as solution #1. I'm not sure why you disagreed with his post
>>then.
>>
>>Daniel
>>
>>>>> I extract the audio of the clip over which I want to paste, before
doing a
>>>>> Paste over. This gets rid of the "pops".
>>>>>
>>>>> Anton
>>>>
>>>> I wish it was that easy. It's supposed to be.
>
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#956 From: Daniel Beck <DanielBeck@...>
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 11:34 am
Subject: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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Jim,

> It still doesn't address the actual software bug problem, which is:
>
> The Clip you are PASTING is the one that will cause the *POP* of sound.

I don't think he's addressing the bug problem, but showing that there is a
work-around.

> According to Anton's post, he extracts the audio of the Clip he is PASTING
> INTO.

That is correct.

> Correct me if I'm wrong, but this would mean:
> If you have a 10 second clip and you want to Paste a Video Clip of 2
> seconds over the middle of the 10 second Clip, Anton would extract the
> Audio from the entire 10 second Clip and then Paste the 2 second Clip into
> it.
>
> This would mean the 10 second Clip now has NO sound, until the Pasted Clip
> appears, then there would be 2 seconds of sound from THAT Clip, then there
> would be no more sound.

I don't think you followed. First you extract the audio from the main clip.
Then you do your overlay. Then you TURN OFF THE SOUND from BOTH the main
clip, and the overlay. All you have left is the audio from the COPY of the
orginal clip. Therefore there is no *POP* and no silence.

> True, there is no more *POP*, but there is also no sound for most of the
> Clip and this is backwards of how a normal "cutaway" should function.
>
> correct me if I read that wrong though.
>
> Also- in my "solution #1" I DID recommend extracting the Audio from the
> Clip just as Anton describes, but then I also mention that you have to then
> go back and PUT THE AUDIO BACK after the Paste Over.

I think it's troublesome to have to do the work-around, but there is a way
to avoid the *POP* sound. It's not ideal in all situations, and it'd be nice
if future editions of iMovie would remove the *POP* problem all together.

Anyone using the new OS X version of iMovie? Any improvements, or is it just
"compatible".

Daniel Beck

#957 From: isetta@...
Date: Tue Apr 3, 2001 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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Anton wrote:

  >...Ps. Maybe you should try it on your machine, it will make more sense.


yes that certainly would make more sense wouldn't it?

I'm still having trouble visualizing what you are saying, so...it's off to
the iMovie lab again for me!

-Jim

#958 From: "Anton Pretorius" <obeco@...>
Date: Wed Apr 4, 2001 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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Yes, it does create lip sync problems if you lose the "lock audio to video
clip" link. It basically forced us to change our way of thinking, and to
edit programmes in sections.

We got used to editing a section, dumping it to tape (so that the audio and
video is permanently "locked"),  editing some more, dumping to tape etc.
Then importing all the edited bits again as clips and assembling the
programme. If it is a longer than one hour programme we normally take these
clips into the "online" suite and assemble them tape to tape. Luckily we
usually have anchor persons in the programmes, which allows you to fade the
music completely under their voice. We would then start a new section
straight after the voice.

This is another reason why I like iMovie, because we can dump, re-import,
dump again, re-import etc without any generation loss. We tried the same
with FCP and the quality dropped quite a bit per dump/Re-import. But I hear
FCP2 does away with a lot of rendering, so maybe there is hope for it.

Anton
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Date: Tuesday, 03 April, 2001 1:35 PM
Subject: [iMovie-List] re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS


>Jim,
>
>> It still doesn't address the actual software bug problem, which is:
>>
>> The Clip you are PASTING is the one that will cause the *POP* of sound.
>
>I don't think he's addressing the bug problem, but showing that there is a
>work-around.
>
>> According to Anton's post, he extracts the audio of the Clip he is
PASTING
>> INTO.
>
>That is correct.
>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but this would mean:
>> If you have a 10 second clip and you want to Paste a Video Clip of 2
>> seconds over the middle of the 10 second Clip, Anton would extract the
>> Audio from the entire 10 second Clip and then Paste the 2 second Clip
into
>> it.
>>
>> This would mean the 10 second Clip now has NO sound, until the Pasted
Clip
>> appears, then there would be 2 seconds of sound from THAT Clip, then
there
>> would be no more sound.
>
>I don't think you followed. First you extract the audio from the main clip.
>Then you do your overlay. Then you TURN OFF THE SOUND from BOTH the main
>clip, and the overlay. All you have left is the audio from the COPY of the
>orginal clip. Therefore there is no *POP* and no silence.
>
>> True, there is no more *POP*, but there is also no sound for most of the
>> Clip and this is backwards of how a normal "cutaway" should function.
>>
>> correct me if I read that wrong though.
>>
>> Also- in my "solution #1" I DID recommend extracting the Audio from the
>> Clip just as Anton describes, but then I also mention that you have to
then
>> go back and PUT THE AUDIO BACK after the Paste Over.
>
>I think it's troublesome to have to do the work-around, but there is a way
>to avoid the *POP* sound. It's not ideal in all situations, and it'd be
nice
>if future editions of iMovie would remove the *POP* problem all together.
>
>Anyone using the new OS X version of iMovie? Any improvements, or is it
just
>"compatible".
>
>Daniel Beck
>
>
>
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>iMovie-List-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
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#959 From: "Anton Pretorius" <obeco@...>
Date: Wed Apr 4, 2001 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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It only solves the "paste over" pops for us, not the other pops when doing
desolves and some other effects. We are still battling with those.

Anton

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>yes that certainly would make more sense wouldn't it?
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#960 From: "Anton Pretorius" <obeco@...>
Date: Wed Apr 4, 2001 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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Date: Tuesday, 03 April, 2001 1:35 PM
Subject: [iMovie-List] re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS


Daniel wrote:

>I don't think you followed. First you extract the audio from the main clip.
>Then you do your overlay. Then you TURN OFF THE SOUND from BOTH the main
>clip, and the overlay. All you have left is the audio from the COPY of the
>orginal clip. Therefore there is no *POP* and no silence.
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>Daniel Beck
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You don't have to turn off any sound. My "extract audio on pasteover" option
in my "Preferences" is off, and once you extract the audio from the main
clip, you don't have to turn it off, it is on another time line.( it is not
a "copy")

But you did understand what I tried to explane in my broken English kind of
a way. I don't know why they don't design a Mail package where one can draw
pictures...

Anton

#961 From: "Anton Pretorius" <obeco@...>
Date: Wed Apr 4, 2001 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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Sorry Daniel, You are absolutely right, it is a "copy". After posting the
mail below I went and checked and even after extracting an audio track, it
still exists in the video track, iMovie just automatically turns the level
down after it "extracts" it.

Don't know why they called it "extract". Should be "Copy and Paste".

Anton

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Date: Wednesday, 04 April, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [iMovie-List] re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS


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>Date: Tuesday, 03 April, 2001 1:35 PM
>Subject: [iMovie-List] re: more on Audio Paste-Over POPS
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>
>Daniel wrote:
>
>>I don't think you followed. First you extract the audio from the main
clip.
>>Then you do your overlay. Then you TURN OFF THE SOUND from BOTH the main
>>clip, and the overlay. All you have left is the audio from the COPY of the
>>orginal clip. Therefore there is no *POP* and no silence.
>>
>>
>>Daniel Beck
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>
>You don't have to turn off any sound. My "extract audio on pasteover"
option
>in my "Preferences" is off, and once you extract the audio from the main
>clip, you don't have to turn it off, it is on another time line.( it is not
>a "copy")
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>a way. I don't know why they don't design a Mail package where one can draw
>pictures...
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#964 From: jscordia@...
Date: Sun Apr 15, 2001 8:25 pm
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Hi everyone on the list. I've been lurking in the background here for a
while, but now I have a shiny new Sony PC100 camera, and I'm really getting
into iMovie! Everything's been going great and I've exported to tape 'drafts'
of my first two short films without hastle.

However now I come to repeat the process, and iMovie seems to freeze whenever
I switch the camera on. Maybe I was lucky the first few times. Is there an
order to switching on mac/switching on camera/loading iMovie/plugging in
camera?

I have a G4/500/320meg/iMovie 2.01

thanks!

Jon

#965 From: isetta@...
Date: Mon Apr 16, 2001 2:06 am
Subject: Re: Camera Freezes iMove?
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>However now I come to repeat the process, and iMovie seems to freeze whenever
>I switch the camera on. Maybe I was lucky the first few times. Is there an
>order to switching on mac/switching on camera/loading iMovie/plugging in
>camera?
>
>I have a G4/500/320meg/iMovie 2.01
>
>thanks!


Camera should be ON and plugged into FireWire before you launch iMovie.

#966 From: Jesse Sng <ipenguin@...>
Date: Mon Apr 16, 2001 7:57 am
Subject: Re: Camera Freezes iMove?
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>However now I come to repeat the process, and iMovie seems to freeze whenever
>I switch the camera on. Maybe I was lucky the first few times. Is there an
>order to switching on mac/switching on camera/loading iMovie/plugging in
>camera?
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>I have a G4/500/320meg/iMovie 2.01
>
>thanks!

Camera should be ON and plugged into FireWire before you launch iMovie.

No such problem with iMovie and the Canon Elura - I can plug it in, then switch it on. iMovie knows how to detect the presence of a dv camera.


Jesse

#967 From: jscordia@...
Date: Mon Apr 16, 2001 6:15 am
Subject: Re: Camera Freezes iMovie?
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Thanks for your help!  In fact on further experimentation sometimes iMovie
does detect the camera, I can hear the hard disc whir as it does when I plug
in any other USB or Firewire peripheral, which it then mounts, in which case
things are fine, but more often with the camera it just hangs!

I'll try 'isetta's' advice straight away.

BTW, downloaded Gee Three's 'Slick translation's last night; great!

Anyone aware of any others?

(I wonder when I'll next use Premiere)

thanks again,

Jon

#968 From: "Richardson, Larry" <ldrichar@...>
Date: Mon Apr 16, 2001 12:26 pm
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I have no problem turning on my camera after starting iMovie. If I start up
iMovie without the camera connected, I get a message that says camera
disconnected. When I turn it on, it say camera connected. I can turn it on
and off and I've never had iMovie freeze.

Larry

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#969 From: Ed Jestes <edjestes@...>
Date: Mon Apr 16, 2001 3:40 pm
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>>  >However now I come to repeat the process, and iMovie seems to
>>freeze whenever
>>>I switch the camera on. Maybe I was lucky the first few times. Is there an
>>>order to switching on mac/switching on camera/loading iMovie/plugging in
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>>Camera should be ON and plugged into FireWire before you launch iMovie.
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>then switch it on. iMovie knows how to detect the presence of a dv
>camera.
>Jesse

No problems with Mac G3 and a Sony DCR-TRV110 Digital Handycam. I
randomly connect firewire, switch camera to VCR mode. iMovie knows!
                 Ed

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#971 From: "Anton Pretorius" <obeco@...>
Date: Wed Apr 18, 2001 8:20 am
Subject: Re: No news is bad news
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Have any of you had problems with Yazoo not sending you any mail from time
to time?  I keep on running into dry spots when I do not receive any mail
from the list for days.

Maybe its a "African Time" problem.

Anton

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Date: Monday, 16 April, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [iMovie-List] Camera Freezes iMove?


>I have no problem turning on my camera after starting iMovie. If I start up
>iMovie without the camera connected, I get a message that says camera
>disconnected. When I turn it on, it say camera connected. I can turn it on
>and off and I've never had iMovie freeze.
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>Larry
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>> whenever
>> >I switch the camera on. Maybe I was lucky the first few times. Is there
>> an
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>> >camera?
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#972 From: "Anton Pretorius" <obeco@...>
Date: Wed Apr 18, 2001 8:24 am
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Jim, did you ever test my solution for "pops in paste over" problem.
I have not received any mail from Yazoo for two weeks.

Anton

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>>However now I come to repeat the process, and iMovie seems to freeze
whenever
>>I switch the camera on. Maybe I was lucky the first few times. Is there an
>>order to switching on mac/switching on camera/loading iMovie/plugging in
>>camera?
>>
>>I have a G4/500/320meg/iMovie 2.01
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