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Re: CMS: What do they do well - and what do they still need to do

Tools like this (or Interwoven's MetaTagger) appear to have a great
deal of power to help categorize content. But they essentially stop
after the content is categorized in the repository.

They still lack the tools that allow me to export that metadata into a
navigable web site, except through <META> tags that can be utilized by
search.

Perhaps CIS is different (we looked at Documentum until they cancelled
on us), but I still haven't seen the power to take that metadata and
taxonomy, and push out the structure of a web site. It's very
disappointing to see much of the information I need buried deep inside
the CMS, and no way to easily pull that information out.

(As for the comment on being web centric, I plead guilty as charged.
But I don't know that the need to be able to maintain a web IA of
content is any different than the need to be able to maintain any
other organization of content. The difference is merely the publication.)

--- In ia-cms-l@yahoogroups.com, David Heller <bolinhanyc@y...> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> Please take another look @ documentum (everyone I am no longer an
> employee of DCTM) they have a wonderful addition to their Web
> Publisher application called Content Intelligence Services. OK, I was
> not in product marketing there, so I didn't come up w/ the name, but
> this is basically a robust engine for taxonomy and meta data
> management and if I understand Mike correctly it is the engine for
> mike to do exactly what he needs.
>
> Now here's the trick. There is no magic here. Someone has to configure
> this puppy. Someone has to create the taxonomical structure. Nothing
> can do this for you. Nothing is going to do your job for you. If they
> claim it does, they are lying.
>
> But what tools like CIS do for you is manage it for you after the fact
> and help you apply your work to the content you previously created and
> will create.
>
> -- dave




Wed Sep 24, 2003 9:59 pm

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Perhaps to kick start this group again, I'd like to get some thoughts about content management systems. I often think of the old line: "Can't live with them,...
mikejaixen
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Sep 22, 2003
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Can you give examples of what is sitemanagement vs. content management? -- dave ... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder -...
David Heller
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Sep 23, 2003
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My view of content management is that it should include site management features - but I haven't seen a lot of good examples of it. My view point is that...
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Sep 23, 2003
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Hi Mike, Please take another look @ documentum (everyone I am no longer an employee of DCTM) they have a wonderful addition to their Web Publisher application...
David Heller
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Sep 24, 2003
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Tools like this (or Interwoven's MetaTagger) appear to have a great deal of power to help categorize content. But they essentially stop after the content is...
mikejaixen
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Sep 25, 2003
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Of course you can export the metadata into whatever you want. The metadata is housed in the host server as a database so the app server can query against it,...
David Heller
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Sep 25, 2003
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Perhaps Documentum did it right, but what about other vendors? (Not an I know that Interwoven, Vignette, and Stellent all have content classification services,...
mikejaixen
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Sep 27, 2003
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Dave - I'm trying to understand CIS a little better. Perhaps you can help me. You mentioned that CIS does not generate a taxonomy but categorizes documents ...
Marcia Morante
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Sep 25, 2003
4:47 am

To be honest, I'm less familiiar w/ the metadata piece than the taxonomy piece. But my understanding is that you create rules for what it should use for...
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Sep 25, 2003
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mike wrote: <snip> ... </snip> In my vision a content management system manages content for several delivery methods, not just websites. I agree a *web*...
melanie.kendell
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Sep 24, 2003
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Yes, I agree, like single source management, etc. and as many integrated output formats as possible. Bev ... ===== Bev Corwin PO Box 77614 Seattle, WA 98177...
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