Win98 isn't officially supported, but I've heard mixed reports as to its
success.  Can you give it a shot and let me know your results?

-david

PS: cc'd to the iGlance mailing list

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Thompson [mailto:jtomm@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:01 PM
> To: David Barrett
> Subject: RE: iglance
>
> Thanks much for getting back to me. Quick
> question. Will iglance work on Win98? Didn't see
> any system requirements.
>
> I'm one of those who is still in the stone age on
> a Win98SE machine. I'll probably be getting
> another machine in the next few months, but would
> like to know if I can use on win98 in the
> meantime. Really looks fantastic.
>
> thanks
>
> --- David Barrett <dbarrett@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi there, no, iGlance is alive and kicking,
> > just been having server
> > troubles.  I thought I had them licked, but
> > apparently not.
> >
> > Regardless, it's back up now; please let me
> > know if you experience any more
> > troubles.
> >
> > -david
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jay Thompson [mailto:jtomm@...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:16 PM
> > > To: dbarrett@...
> > > Subject: iglance
> > >
> > > Hi David,
> > >
> > > Just recently read something on the web about
> > > iglance. Sounds really great. But the website
> > is
> > > down. Is iglance no more?
> > >
> > > -j
> > >
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----- Original Message -----

From: David Barrett

To: iglance@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 6:37 PM

Subject: [iglance] iGlance is back!

iGlance is back online!  I apologize for the temporary outage – a fan died on the server causing it to auto shutdown, though it took a bit to realize it was as simple as replacing the fan and turning it back on.  Regardless, the website, SVN repository, and service itself should be 100% operational – please let me know if you have any further troubles.  Sorry!

-david

Hi Tao,

Sorry to reply late. Just returned from a trip.

Please search motorola.com for "PoC OMA 2.0" and hopefully you can get a
list of all PoC related doc like
http://www.motorola.com/mot/doc/1/1571_MotDoc.pdf. I downloaded them there 2
yrs ago.

Good lucks!!

PP
----- Original Message -----
From: tao sun
To: iglance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: [iglance] About Push to talk with SIP


Hi Peter,

Where can I get the spec of PTT with SIP? I wen to OMA website, but it looks
like only members can access more details.

Thanx.

Tao

Peter Pan <huang-ming.pan@...> wrote:
OMA PoC can be a good reference of standardized PTT with SIP. The spec v2.0
seems available from Motorola, I remembered.

I wish I could share my completed implementation (server and client) of PoC
v2.0, but I don't own its IP and rights (-:

However, anyone experienced with SIP, SDP, RTP, and RTCP can build it from
scratch easily, since PoC architecture is well defined therein :-)

BTW, iGlance PTT seems p2p, both signaling & media, while PoC is centralized
in both streams. I now advocate anything of p2p, though I dont know how
iGlance p2p-ize its floor control.

PP
----- Original Message -----
From: David Barrett
To: iglance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: [iglance] About Push to talk with SIP


Hi Tao, iGlance's push to talk over SIP is really quite basic.  First, every
client establishes a non-compliant, SIP-like connection with every other
client on its buddy list.  Thus everyone is pre-connected to everyone else
with live RTP streams.  However, you only send audio/video when you're
actually broadcasting (so they don't cost much to maintain).  Thus "push to
talk" is really just "only send audio when the user is holding down the
button".  From a protocol standpoint, it's very simple.  The application
logic is a bit trickier, however.

As for Java, iGlance is written entirely in C++.  Sorry!  However, all the
source code is available at http://www.iglance.com/code.html  Of specific
interest, you might want to check out:
http://svn.iglance.com/svn/trunk/iglance/client/GDeviceSession.cpp

Good luck!
-david




From: iglance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:iglance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
taoandyang
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:35 AM
To: iglance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [iglance] About Push to talk with SIP

Hi David,

I am doing a sip-based research project now. Push to talk feature will
be added in my second prototype.

Could u tell me more details about push-to-talk within SIP, such as
document or source code?

Is it possible to develop push-to-talk based-on java using ur iglance
source code?

Thanx.

Tao

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OMA PoC can be a good reference of standardized PTT with SIP. The spec v2.0
seems available from Motorola, I remembered.

I wish I could share my completed implementation (server and client) of PoC
v2.0, but I don't own its IP and rights (-:

However, anyone experienced with SIP, SDP, RTP, and RTCP can build it from
scratch easily, since PoC architecture is well defined therein :-)

BTW, iGlance PTT seems p2p, both signaling & media, while PoC is centralized
in both streams. I now advocate anything of p2p, though I dont know how
iGlance p2p-ize its floor control.

PP
----- Original Message -----
From: David Barrett
To: iglance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: [iglance] About Push to talk with SIP


Hi Tao, iGlance's push to talk over SIP is really quite basic.  First, every
client establishes a non-compliant, SIP-like connection with every other
client on its buddy list.  Thus everyone is pre-connected to everyone else
with live RTP streams.  However, you only send audio/video when you're
actually broadcasting (so they don't cost much to maintain).  Thus "push to
talk" is really just "only send audio when the user is holding down the
button".  From a protocol standpoint, it's very simple.  The application
logic is a bit trickier, however.

As for Java, iGlance is written entirely in C++.  Sorry!  However, all the
source code is available at http://www.iglance.com/code.html  Of specific
interest, you might want to check out:
http://svn.iglance.com/svn/trunk/iglance/client/GDeviceSession.cpp

Good luck!
-david




From: iglance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:iglance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
taoandyang
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:35 AM
To: iglance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [iglance] About Push to talk with SIP

Hi David,

I am doing a sip-based research project now. Push to talk feature will
be added in my second prototype.

Could u tell me more details about push-to-talk within SIP, such as
document or source code?

Is it possible to develop push-to-talk based-on java using ur iglance
source code?

Thanx.

Tao

BANG LAB
University of Western Cape
South Africa









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OMA PoC can be a good reference of standardized PTT with SIP. The spec v2.0
seems available from Motorola, I remembered.

I wish I could share my completed implementation (server and client) of PoC
v2.0, but I don't own its IP and rights (-:

However, anyone experienced with SIP, SDP, RTP, and RTCP can build it from
scratch easily, since PoC architecture is well defined therein :-)

BTW, iGlance PTT seems p2p, both signaling & media, while PoC is centralized
in both streams. I now advocate anything of p2p, though I dont know how
iGlance p2p-ize its floor control.

PP
----- Original Message -----
From: David Barrett
To: iglance@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: [iglance] About Push to talk with SIP


Hi Tao, iGlance's push to talk over SIP is really quite basic.  First, every
client establishes a non-compliant, SIP-like connection with every other
client on its buddy list.  Thus everyone is pre-connected to everyone else
with live RTP streams.  However, you only send audio/video when you're
actually broadcasting (so they don't cost much to maintain).  Thus "push to
talk" is really just "only send audio when the user is holding down the
button".  From a protocol standpoint, it's very simple.  The application
logic is a bit trickier, however.

As for Java, iGlance is written entirely in C++.  Sorry!  However, all the
source code is available at http://www.iglance.com/code.html  Of specific
interest, you might want to check out:
http://svn.iglance.com/svn/trunk/iglance/client/GDeviceSession.cpp

Good luck!
-david




From: iglance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:iglance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
taoandyang
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:35 AM
To: iglance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [iglance] About Push to talk with SIP

Hi David,

I am doing a sip-based research project now. Push to talk feature will
be added in my second prototype.

Could u tell me more details about push-to-talk within SIP, such as
document or source code?

Is it possible to develop push-to-talk based-on java using ur iglance
source code?

Thanx.

Tao

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Does iglance work on Windows98SE?

I haven't tried iglance yet because I didn't see any system
requirements listed on the site. Looks great though.

Any probs on Win98?

Hi David,

I am doing a sip-based research project now. Push to talk feature will
be added in my second prototype.

Could u tell me more details about push-to-talk within SIP, such as
document or source code?

Is it possible to develop push-to-talk based-on java using ur iglance
source code?

Thanx.

Tao

BANG LAB
University of Western Cape
South Africa

Hi Alec, screen sharing can be enabled by setting the following line in your
'settings.ini' file:

	 Enable_Screen_Share_Color: True

More settings can be found here:

	 http://svn.iglance.com/svn/trunk/docs/settings_quickref.txt

-david

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alec Dorling [mailto:alec.dorling@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:28 PM
> To: dbarrett@...
> Subject: screen sharing
>
> Hi
>
> Any reason when screen sharing that the shared screen appears in
> black and white and not full colour
>
> Thanks
>
> ____________________________
> Alec Dorling
>
> Email: alec.dorling@...
>

Hi Tony, thanks for asking.  iGlance currently offers no global directory
function; ID exchange happens via email, IM, phone, or however you like.  As
it stands, iGlance isn't optimized for meeting new people, but rather
communicating better with those you already know.

As for screen sharing, yes this'll work fine even if they don't have a
camera or microphone.  Indeed, you can send your audio/video to a buddy even
if they can only respond with text.

Good luck, and let me know how it goes!

-david

PS: cc'd to mailing list

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Wasserman [mailto:tonyw@...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 12:52 AM
> To: dbarrett@...
> Subject: adding buddies in iGlance
>
> David:
>
> Thanks for your efforts with iGlance.  It looks quite promising.
>
> I have a question about how one adds buddies.  I looked on
> the Yahoo group, but didn't find an answer.  You said that
> there was a wiki, but I didn't find it.
>
> Basically, the question is how to add someone as a buddy.
> For instance, how would I add you?  I know your email
> address, but I can't just type that address and have you
> become a buddy.  It doesn't appear that there is a connection
> with various IM systems, either.
>
> Any help or pointers that you can provide will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> My eventual goal is to share a window on my screen, such
> as an OpenOffice Impress presentation, with about 10
> people at once.  So we all have to become buddies as
> a first step.  That reminds me: will I be able to share the
> screen/window with people who don't have a video connection?
> Do I have to do anything special for that?
>
> Tony Wasserman

Hi Lars, unfortunately no we don't have an OSX port, but we would absolutely
*love* to.  If you know anyone who can do this, please encourage them
contact me!

-david

PS: cc'd to the iGlance mailing list

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lars LB. Baumstark [mailto:l.baumstark@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:28 AM
> To: dbarrett@...
> Subject: iglance for OSX ?
>
> Hello David,
>
> excuse the (probably often recurring) question: Do you know of any iglance
> port to Apple OS-X ?
> I googled around and found nothing, and I´m not too familiar with the
> Xcode-Tools, so compiling it
> myself for that platform is (not yet) an option for me...
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Lars
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Hi Paul, going back through the bug logs and came across this.  FYI, if you
double-click on the user's icon it'll begin a "hands-free talk" session, but
if you double-click on the user's *name* it'll open the text-chat window.
Please give that a shot and let me know what you think.  Regardless, thanks
for the suggestion!

-david

PS: cc'd to the iGlance mailing list

> -----Original Message-----
> From: iglanced@... [mailto:iglanced@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:25 PM
> To: dbarrett@...
> Subject: Bug Report: 'paulej@...' <paulej@...>
>
> If I double click on a buddy, I want to be able to send text, rather than
> take the default action of "talking".  Can you make this configurable?

Hi David,

This is an extremely cool product!!  I'd love to use it in my
enterprise.  It would exactly solve a problem I'm having right now.
Unfortunately, I need to prevent my users from being able to chat /
file share / screen share / etc... with users outside the company.  Is
there any chance you'd be interested in releasing the server software
in an enterprise edition?

-Mark

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Hi Malcom, thanks for the great suggestions and I'm glad you're back online.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: iglanced@... [mailto:iglanced@...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:48 PM
> To: dbarrett@...
> Subject: Bug Report: 'malcolm@...' <malcolma@...>
>
> Hi Looks good - thanks for fixing the bug - now all fine. Now that we have
> used it for a while a few observations. Its great for interactions and
> works as you say - very useful product. It would be great if... 1) iGlance
> could be configured to remain on top of other windows (I run nview which
> enables to run always on top and semi tranparent but iGlance does not seem
> to support that), 2) iGlance could be minimised to taskbar icon only 3) It
> would be great if I could see a picture of myself so I knew what others
> were seeing of me, 4) When I have a conversation, only one iGlance window
> appeared for each person with the text changing to now listening to, now
> talking to, etc, rather than separate windows for listening and talking. I
> realise, though, that it is still early days and there are only so many
> hours in the day. Anyhow - great product and we will keep using it,
> Regards Malcolm
>
> PS - I forgot to mention echo canceling is a necessary feature of the
> audio management (as I like most people have PC speakers plus a headset
> and mike) and auto configuration of the video is necessary as well (I have
> different cameras set up in the difference offices where I work) - cheers
> malcolm

I look forward to hacking.  I ordered a couple of
webcams, and hope to hack around on the weekend, but probably
not this weekend.
As for it's use: start out with connecting to my wife.  We used
to work out of the same room and could banter.  Now we aren't.
Looks like a nice model to mimic that.

Rick


--- In iglance@yahoogroups.com, "David Barrett" <dbarrett@...> wrote:
>
> Done, good suggestion.
>
> Now that you've taken a glance at the code, what are your thoughts?
  What
> would you like to do with it?
>
> -david
> ________________________________________
> From: iglance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:iglance@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Rick S.
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:30 AM
> To: iglance@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re£º Re: [iglance] Question for compile
>
> Hi David,
>
> I enjoyed your talk yesterday at CodeCon.  Inspired me enough to look
> into getting a webcam for my laptop and to build iglance. I hit a
> compile problem which was addressed in a previous mail you wrote.  You
> would you be willing to add this to the process in BUILD.txt as a "if
> you hit linking error, try this" suggestion?  Thanks.
>
> Rick
>
> --- In iglance@yahoogroups.com, David Barrett <dbarrett@> wrote:
> >
> > Try this:
> >
> > 1) Right click on "iGlanceClient" in the left pane
> > 2) Choose "Properties"
> > 3) Expand "Configuration Properties" in the left hierarchy
> > 4) Expand "Linker" in the left hierarchy
> > 5) Choose "Input" in the left hierarchy
> > 6) Insert into the "Ignore Specific Library":
> >
> >       libc.lib;libcmt.lib;msvcrt.lib;libcd.lib;msvcrtd.lib
> >
> > 7) Click OK
> > 8) Clean and build
> >
> > Any luck?
> >
> > -david
>
>
>
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Hi David,

My friend Daniel introduced me to you at CodeCon.. and I promptly
downloaded iglance on my home computer that night (now just to find
that webcam...)

I am leaving for Japan for a bit, and thought I might try iglance on
a laptop I'll be buying and taking with me.  A friend (former IT
colleague at work) recommended the Dell Latitude D410.  I have Skype
and was thinking of buying the Motorola Wireless Internet kit - a
bluetooth connection that uses a USB port.  I'm not sure what kind
of webcam to get to use with this combination when traveling (and
not sure how many USB ports the D410 has... or if the webcam uses a
USB.

Do you have any configuration recommendations?

I played with iglance (w/o the webcam at home) and really like its
look and feel. Can't wait to see what it might do for the Africa
projects I mentioned!

-Anna

Hi there, thanks trying out iGlance.  As for your issue, try removing each
other from your respective buddy lists, going online at the same time, and
then one adding the other.  There's currently a problem if you both add each
other while the other is offline, then neither will ever notice the other.
Can you test to see if this is the case?  Thanks!

-david

PS: cc'd to the mailing list

> -----Original Message-----
> From: iglanced@... [mailto:iglanced@...]
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:18 AM
> To: dbarrett@...
> Subject: Bug Report: 'malcolm@...' <malcolma@...>
>
> Malcolm cannot see when Greg is online, Greg cannot see when Malcolm is
> online (consequently not much happens). We haven't tried adding anyone
> else. PS the editor in this screen is a bit primitive - eg no back arrows,
> etc. Great idea, great product, love the interface - well done.

Done, good suggestion.

Now that you've taken a glance at the code, what are your thoughts?  What
would you like to do with it?

-david
________________________________________
From: iglance@yahoogroups.com [mailto:iglance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rick S.
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:30 AM
To: iglance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re£º Re: [iglance] Question for compile

Hi David,

I enjoyed your talk yesterday at CodeCon.  Inspired me enough to look
into getting a webcam for my laptop and to build iglance. I hit a
compile problem which was addressed in a previous mail you wrote.  You
would you be willing to add this to the process in BUILD.txt as a "if
you hit linking error, try this" suggestion?  Thanks.

Rick

--- In iglance@yahoogroups.com, David Barrett <dbarrett@...> wrote:
>
> Try this:
>
> 1) Right click on "iGlanceClient" in the left pane
> 2) Choose "Properties"
> 3) Expand "Configuration Properties" in the left hierarchy
> 4) Expand "Linker" in the left hierarchy
> 5) Choose "Input" in the left hierarchy
> 6) Insert into the "Ignore Specific Library":
>
>       libc.lib;libcmt.lib;msvcrt.lib;libcd.lib;msvcrtd.lib
>
> 7) Click OK
> 8) Clean and build
>
> Any luck?
>
> -david




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Hi David,

I enjoyed your talk yesterday at CodeCon.  Inspired me enough to look
into getting a webcam for my laptop and to build iglance. I hit a
compile problem which was addressed in a previous mail you wrote.  You
would you be willing to add this to the process in BUILD.txt as a "if
you hit linking error, try this" suggestion?  Thanks.

Rick

--- In iglance@yahoogroups.com, David Barrett <dbarrett@...> wrote:
>
> Try this:
>
> 1) Right click on "iGlanceClient" in the left pane
> 2) Choose "Properties"
> 3) Expand "Configuration Properties" in the left hierarchy
> 4) Expand "Linker" in the left hierarchy
> 5) Choose "Input" in the left hierarchy
> 6) Insert into the "Ignore Specific Library":
>
>  libc.lib;libcmt.lib;msvcrt.lib;libcd.lib;msvcrtd.lib
>
> 7) Click OK
> 8) Clean and build
>
> Any luck?
>
> -david