Exactly - you would be banned in a normally moderated list. So quit whining
and start your own list. Perhaps one that follows basic netiquette and
decent human interaction - like lack of insults for the sake of insults and
building up tiny bully egos or cross-posting spam.

They aren't shutting down everything - everyone here has the ability to
start a list and spend their time and energy doing or not doing anything.
And everyone can follow. Start a list, be righteous, invite others.. see if
anyone shows up.



On Nov 28, 2007 9:39 PM, Peter Hogwood <p_t_hogwood@...> wrote:

> "The list is run on *their* time and energy."
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> What an insipidly stupid comment. What "time and
> energy"? For the past several years, they, the
> so-called "moderator" included, have done nothing
> whatsoever to promote the list, or take part in or
> guide the discussions. They don't read the messages.
> Spam stays in the archive for weeks and months. What
> a pitiable excuse for "them." And now "they" want to
> shut it down.
>
> Peter
>
> --- Rich Vázquez <rich.vazquez@... <rich.vazquez%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Nobody decided to "end free discussion." The
> > owners of this list extended
> > the opportunity for people to set up their own
> > mailing lists and announce
> > them here, which some have done.
> >
> > If you don't like their decision, you can set up
> > your own list and announce
> > it here.
> >
> > The owners of the list are not obligated to run the
> > list in a way that we
> > demand. The list is run on *their* time and energy.
> > People who want that
> > environment can set up their own and announce them
> > here.
> >
> > Frankly, they are being responsible my recognizing
> > the limitations of their
> > intended scope and final project. It's not easy to
> > "end" or drastically
> > change a community.
> >
> > Solutions to all complaints about the change in
> > format: Start your own list.
> >
> > On Nov 28, 2007 5:47 PM, John C. Turmel
> > <bc726@... <bc726%40freenet.carleton.ca>> wrote:
> >
> > > >#8471From: "cwilli5210" <CWilli5210@>
> > > > >Date: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:21 pm
> > > > >Subject: Future of IJCCR discussion group
> > cwilli5210
> > > >
> > > > CW: Dear IJCCR discussion group members,
> > > > As Editor of the IJCCR journal for some ten
> > years, and also
> > > > hands-off moderator of this Group for the same
> > time, I would
> > > > like to announce that the new Editorial Board of
> > the journal
> > > > has decided that this 'discussion list' is not
> > fulfilling
> > > > its original aim, which was to be a forum for
> > discussion of
> > > > the issues arising in the journal articles.
> > > >
> > >
> > > > JCT: So how many people made the decision to end
> > free
> > > > discussion? And who were in on the decision?
> > >
> > > Jct: We're still waiting to find out who was in on
> > the decision to end
> > > discussion in this group. I know the members had
> > no say. So who did?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> > Rich Vázquez, CISSP, CISA
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
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