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TURMEL: Premier currency engineering IJCCR group shutting down!   Message List  
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Re: [ijccr] Replying to Vázquez

The lack of intellectual content to your messages
would get you banned from any reasonably moderated
list. You follow the insipidly stupid comment that I
observed with more insipidly stupid comments. It's not
whining but observation that they've done nothing to
contribute to the discussions, and to prove the point
they close down the list. Just an indication of THEIR
intellectual capacity.

Peter.


--- Rich Vázquez <rich.vazquez@...> wrote:

> Exactly - you would be banned in a normally
> moderated list. So quit whining
> and start your own list. Perhaps one that follows
> basic netiquette and
> decent human interaction - like lack of insults for
> the sake of insults and
> building up tiny bully egos or cross-posting spam.
>
> They aren't shutting down everything - everyone here
> has the ability to
> start a list and spend their time and energy doing
> or not doing anything.
> And everyone can follow. Start a list, be
> righteous, invite others.. see if
> anyone shows up.
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2007 9:39 PM, Peter Hogwood
> <p_t_hogwood@...> wrote:
>
> > "The list is run on *their* time and energy."
> >
>
-----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > What an insipidly stupid comment. What "time and
> > energy"? For the past several years, they, the
> > so-called "moderator" included, have done nothing
> > whatsoever to promote the list, or take part in or
> > guide the discussions. They don't read the
> messages.
> > Spam stays in the archive for weeks and months.
> What
> > a pitiable excuse for "them." And now "they" want
> to
> > shut it down.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > --- Rich Vázquez <rich.vazquez@...
> <rich.vazquez%40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Nobody decided to "end free discussion." The
> > > owners of this list extended
> > > the opportunity for people to set up their own
> > > mailing lists and announce
> > > them here, which some have done.
> > >
> > > If you don't like their decision, you can set up
> > > your own list and announce
> > > it here.
> > >
> > > The owners of the list are not obligated to run
> the
> > > list in a way that we
> > > demand. The list is run on *their* time and
> energy.
> > > People who want that
> > > environment can set up their own and announce
> them
> > > here.
> > >
> > > Frankly, they are being responsible my
> recognizing
> > > the limitations of their
> > > intended scope and final project. It's not easy
> to
> > > "end" or drastically
> > > change a community.
> > >
> > > Solutions to all complaints about the change in
> > > format: Start your own list.
> > >
> > > On Nov 28, 2007 5:47 PM, John C. Turmel
> > > <bc726@...
> <bc726%40freenet.carleton.ca>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >#8471From: "cwilli5210" <CWilli5210@>
> > > > > >Date: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:21 pm
> > > > > >Subject: Future of IJCCR discussion group
> > > cwilli5210
> > > > >
> > > > > CW: Dear IJCCR discussion group members,
> > > > > As Editor of the IJCCR journal for some ten
> > > years, and also
> > > > > hands-off moderator of this Group for the
> same
> > > time, I would
> > > > > like to announce that the new Editorial
> Board of
> > > the journal
> > > > > has decided that this 'discussion list' is
> not
> > > fulfilling
> > > > > its original aim, which was to be a forum
> for
> > > discussion of
> > > > > the issues arising in the journal articles.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > JCT: So how many people made the decision to
> end
> > > free
> > > > > discussion? And who were in on the decision?
> > > >
> > > > Jct: We're still waiting to find out who was
> in on
> > > the decision to end
> > > > discussion in this group. I know the members
> had
> > > no say. So who did?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Rich Vázquez, CISSP, CISA
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > >
> > >



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JCT: I've seen this happen before where pressure from behind ... CW: Dear IJCCR discussion group members, As Editor of the IJCCR journal for some ten years,...
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Oct 31, 2007
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... Jct: We're still waiting to find out who was in on the decision to end discussion in this group. I know the members had no say. So who did?...
John C. Turmel
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Nov 28, 2007
11:47 pm

Nobody decided to "end free discussion." The owners of this list extended the opportunity for people to set up their own mailing lists and announce them...
Rich Vázquez
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Nov 29, 2007
12:02 am

"The list is run on *their* time and energy." ... What an insipidly stupid comment. What "time and energy"? For the past several years, they, the so-called...
Peter Hogwood
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Nov 29, 2007
3:39 am

Exactly - you would be banned in a normally moderated list. So quit whining and start your own list. Perhaps one that follows basic netiquette and decent...
Rich Vázquez
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Nov 29, 2007
3:47 am

The lack of intellectual content to your messages would get you banned from any reasonably moderated list. You follow the insipidly stupid comment that I ...
Peter Hogwood
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Nov 29, 2007
4:46 am

John and others - I am an intermittent communicator on this list but I plug in to read posts 2 or 3 times a week to add to my intelligence diet. Castrating it...
Pablo 88
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Nov 29, 2007
9:50 am

"If IJCCR wants an announcement list, then it should simply make one at Yahoo and place all the subscribers to this list onto the new announcement list. Lets...
Peter Hogwood
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Nov 29, 2007
3:15 pm

Peter - I guess our agreement here (along with many others who have voiced similar sentiments) at least proves the continued existence of common sense. Having...
Pablo 88
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Nov 29, 2007
9:56 pm

... rather than placed without their consent, perhaps colin williams could send them an email off-list to invite them to subscribe - i say off-list because i...
ernie yacub
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Nov 29, 2007
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... Pablo, that would be contrary to the UK Data Protection Act, which prevents data collected for one purpose being used for another. Also reusing such an...
Richard Kay
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Nov 30, 2007
11:57 am

Richard - Fair points, legal points, tedious points, energy sapping points also, but I accept them. I have subscribed to your ccdiscuss@... list but...
Pablo 88
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Nov 30, 2007
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"But this exchange between us already highlights the stupidity of the decision to switch this list off. Talk about foot shooting. All the energy is being ...
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