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Re: [ILUG-GOA] New Users: Linux Distribution suggestions

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Anil Seth <seth.anil@...> wrote:
> On 16 November 2011 14:52, Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> One of the things that came out is the amount of money they are
>> spending on the IT infrastructure, and most importantly licensing
>> costs. So, being the open source user I am, I suggested a move to
>> FOSS. My understanding is that generally the initial cost of a FOSS
>> setup is higher (training and so on), but one of my suggestions was to
>> have students maintain the labs and some sort of a best effort
>> maintenance. That is, get support only when the students cannot fix
>> it. The principal seemed quite interested by the idea and has given me
>> permission to setup one computer with Linux, so that they can see what
>> it is.
>>
>> I suspect the real challenge is not money or training but the mindset.
> Some teacher will have a powerpoint presentation with silly effects or
> fonts and will demonstrate that he/she can't use LibreOffice/OpenOffice.
>

ah, but that is where education comes in. Seriously, if that is going
to be the objection, then we really need better objections :-).

> And the admin will have tally or MS Access apps which can't run on Linux.
>

I am talking about the labs and so on. I would expect one or two
systems to still run windows or something, to run apps which are not
compatible or don't have an equivalent.

> However, if the license costs are hurting the management enough, then the
> management may be willing to take some risk.

I really hope that is not the reason for moving. The reason for moving
should be students. I can attribute my opportunities to just one
thing, having access to a computer where I could do whatever I wanted,
and satisfy my curiosity. With the world today, where everyone wants
an ipad or something, students are not really being encouraged to look
deeper, to check out the internals. The only chance they have is if
there is FOSS around. The place to target that is at the school level.
That should be the real motivation, not license costs. The license
costs should just be a good side effect :-)

Dhaval



Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:53 pm

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Hi folks, I had a the chance to visit my old school (the KV at vasco :-) ) yesterday, and spent a while talking with the principal (who was one of my teachers...
Dhaval Giani
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Nov 16, 2011
9:22 am

... Some teacher will have a powerpoint presentation with silly effects or fonts and will demonstrate that he/she can't use LibreOffice/OpenOffice. And the...
Anil Seth
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Nov 16, 2011
9:48 am

... ah, but that is where education comes in. Seriously, if that is going to be the objection, then we really need better objections :-). ... I am talking...
Dhaval Giani
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Nov 17, 2011
5:53 pm

... Try Debian's edu packages. Or the Government of Kerala's IT@SCHOOL Cd. I guess they have an online support group somewhere. If you cannot find any online...
Mahesh T. Pai
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Nov 16, 2011
3:49 pm

... Well, if we are going to have syllabus for schools which is dependent on proprietary software, we have other bigger problems to worry about.. Dhaval...
Dhaval Giani
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Nov 16, 2011
4:31 pm

... You already have. KV follows the CBSE, right? And that is what I wanted to bring your attention to. There was a call on the one of the ilug lists, probably...
Mahesh T. Pai
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Nov 17, 2011
3:22 pm

... Yes. ... links? I would like more details. I know principals, and can really discuss it with them to start bringing it to the attention of KVS and ...
Dhaval Giani
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Nov 17, 2011
3:44 pm
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