--- anoop bhat <anoop4bhat@...> wrote:

> i was just wonderin.....does ilug mlore have a tshirt or a
> sticker? if not i think it should......

Iam too for a ilug-mangalore t-shirt. How about others ?
If many of us are ready for the idea, then we can start with
logo design and looking at the logistics.

- GK





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--- In ilug-mangalore@yahoogroups.com, Girish Kamath
<girishkamath@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- anoop bhat <anoop4bhat@y...> wrote:
>
> > i was just wonderin.....doest
then we can start with
> logo design and looking at the logistics.
> > - GK

Talking about logistics, even if you designed a logo in inkscape is
there a format in which we can give it to our "pirate" corel draw dtp
people. T shirt logo can be exported as jpeg no problems.

Hi guys,

I am searching over net for opensource softwares in different purpose
and i came across this very good collection of open sorce list really
nice and i want to share this with you guys and i have never seen any
website like this resouces

http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/tools.htm

i hope this is useful for all

cheers

Hi ,
     I want to let U let know that there is one more solution for this
problem ....If one has Mozilla ,then try http://www27.meebo.com/.  U
need not have to install any software or any other stuff just logon
and use it... It is simple and secure as it uses the encryption
methods. The only draw back found in this way is One cannot store the
Chat history and send smily..

Thanks
Sharath.S.Upadhyaya


--- In ilug-mangalore@yahoogroups.com, Girish Kamath
<girishkamath@y...> wrote:
>
> Problem resolved. Below is the solution.
>
> - GK
>
> --- Atul Chitnis <lists@a...> wrote:
>
> >
> > --- In ilug-mangalore@yahoogroups.com, Girish Kamath
> > <girishkamath@y...> wrote:
> >
> > > Anyone hooked on to IRC servers from bharti's broadband ?
> > Iam
> > > using X-chat and Iam unable to connect. Tcpdump shows me the
> > > requests are going to ircd port 6667 but there are no
> > responses
> > > coming back.
> > > The "technical" support at bharti's helpdesk, told me  "may
> > be"
> > > the port is blocked !
> > > Anyone facing the same problem ? or knows any workaround ?
> >
> > Use Port 7000.
> >
> > Atul
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.
> http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
>

Sometime Today, s cobbled together some glyphs to say:

>     I want to let U let know that there is one more solution for this
> problem ....If one has Mozilla ,then try http://www27.meebo.com/.  U
> need not have to install any software or any other stuff just logon

why don't you just give them your credit card number as well while
you're at it?  you seem to trust them enough with your usernames and
passwords.

--
When all else failed, she tried being reasonable.
(Johnny and the Bomb)

................................................................
FN's Eye on FLOSS (Free/Libre and Open Source Software) 2JAN2006
................................................................
Please forward this to FLOSS groups you know... help it grow -FN

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LFY, DELHI AND LINUX ASIA... SEEKING COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT:
LINUXForYou editor Rahul Chopra <rahul@...> reminds us
of the forthcoming LinuxAsia event in Delhi. Rahul writes:

           This email is w.r.t. LinuxAsia, and to seek your help
           in building the community side to it.  LinuxAsia has
           managed to become the biggest B2B event, where top
           industry players meet customers at a national level. I
           am tempted to try and see if we can help drive the
           community push further in Delhi through LinuxAsia.

We have planned the following community initiatives for
LinuxAsia 2006:

* The Dot.Org mela where [free software and] open source
   projects will be provided a FREE booth space subject to
   registration and approval by the technical committee.

* The [GNU]Linux Newbie sessions where new comers sit through a
   one hour session, which is presented by the [GNU]Linux/[FL]OSS
   community takes them through a series of presentations, which
   would help the newbies to understand [free software and] open
   source and Linux better, and the benefits associated. We need
   good speakers who WANT TO TAKE LINUX TO THE MASSES, and can do
   a good job at that.

* Free LUG booths where we want more and more LUGs to be
   represented at Delhi to tell the world that India rocks when
   it comes to [GNU]Linux/[FL]OSS.

MORE ABOUT LINUX ASIA: You can submit your conference
proposal for LinuxAsia 2006 till January 8, 2006. Deadlines
for speakers as below:

* January 8, 2006: Proposal deadline
* January 15, 2006: Notification of acceptance to speakers
* January 22, 2006: Final presentation materials due
* February 8, 2006: LinuxAsia 2006 Conference begins

Submit your conference proposal at http://www.linuxasia.net/speakers

LinuxAsia Conference & Expo 2006 February 8-10, 2006 | New
Delhi, India http://www.linuxasia.net

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FREE SOFTWARE AND MEDIA, OPTIONS FOR B'LORE: Anivar Aravind
<anivar@...> an active member of the Free Software
Foundation of India has this to write: "I got a mail from
Jaromil (the creator of dyne:bolic, http://rastasoft.org/)
saying that he will be in Bangalore by March/April 2006 for some
programme of Mahiti. Can we plan some free software amd media
workshops at that time? Any one interested? Any collaborators?"

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FSF-INDIA DIRECTOR Dr G Nagarjuna <nagarjun@...> of
the Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education at the TIFR in
Mumbai, announces that the FSF is entering 2006 with a very
important task, drafting GPLv-3. GPL stands for the General Public
License, also known as the GNU/GPL.

         GPLv-2 was released in 1991, and it is the most widely
         used free software license.  During the course of time,
         the computing environments are transforming,
         particularly with the entrance of webservices and
         embedded devices.  In the context of these changes, it
         is possible that user's freedom may not be preserved.

FSF says it is "committed to protect the software freedom even
under the transformed conditions in future." A draft of the
GPL-v3 will be released during the First International Public
GPL-v3 launch conference to be held at the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology (MIT) on January 16 and 17, 2006. Dr
Nagarjuna is expected to represent FSF India.

He writes: "I invite the  free software community in India to
actively participate in shaping the new license.  If you would
like to share any specific inputs let us discuss them here in
the list. You may also want to send me your thoughts directly.
Wishing you all a success in protecting software freedom."

Visit http;//gplv3.fsf.org/

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           CHECK THE PROJECT RESOURCE CENTRE, which is meant to
           be a network to discuss GNU/Linux and FLOSS projects
           for students. It has recently been looking at the
           Sarai.net offer for support for those taking up such
           initiatives too.
           https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/prc

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NepaLinux IS OUT: It was released on December 22, 2005.
NepaLinux is a Debian and Morphix based GNU/Linux distribution
focused for Desktop usage in Nepali language computing. It
contains applications for Desktop users like: OpenOffice.org,
Nepali Gnome Desktop, Nepali input systems etc.

http://www.nepalinux.org/

It is drawing some early praise too. Our Greek friend Simos
Xenitellis <simos.lists@...> writes: "Congratulations to
everyone contributed in the work! I tried out the Live CD and I
must say I am really impressed with the level of integration and
completeness of localisation. You use a consistent colour theme
through out the LiveCD which means you went to great efforts to
update the icons/backgrouns/logos/etc. Also, every single
message in the menus was localised to Nepali; I had trouble to
navigate on the system :) I took some screenshots in PNG format
http://planet.hellug.gr/misc/nepalinux.png
http://planet.hellug.gr/misc/nepalinux-ooo.png "

Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya (MPP) is the principal archive of
books and periodicals in the Nepali language, the mother tongue
(or lingua franca) of a little over 30 million people of South
Asia. It manages the largest archive in the Nepali language, and
supports the use of Nepali for the social, economic and cultural
advancement of all Nepali. Since January 2004, Madan Puraskar
Pustakalaya undertook the Nepal component of the 30-month long
PAN Localization Project (www.PANL10n.net), a multi-nation
localization project being conducted in Afghanistan, Bangladesh,
Bhutan, Cambodia, Laos, Nepal, and Sri Lanka, with the support
of International Development and Research Center (IDRC), Canada.
This project includes a Nepali GNU/Linux distribution
'NepaLinux' comprising of localized GNOME, OpenOffice.org,
Mozilla suite, and other utilities that include Nepali
Spellchecker, Thesaurus, Nepali Unicode support, etc. This
distribution can be used in Nepali as well in English
environment. Though NepaLinux is basically a live CD it can also
be installed in the computer. The work for the installation
process has been facilitated through the European Commission
supported Bhasha Sanchar Project -- http://www.bhashasanchar.org
-- which is led by the Open University (UK).

NepaLinux is a Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS), in
which the source code is open and the users have the freedom to
use, study, modify according to one's needs and redistribute it.
NepaLinux, being a Free/Open Source Software, does not charge
for its software unlike proprietary software, which cost a lot
and also do not allow the users to study, modify, or
redistribute.

Some of the packages included in NepaLinux are Linux Kernel
2.6.12, Gnome 2.10 Desktop Environment, OpenOffice.org 2.0, Gimp
Graphics Editor, IRC Client, Gaim Messenging Tool, Development
Tools (Includes C and C++), Mozilla Suite, GnomeBaker CD/DVD
Burning Utility, Firewall Security, Antivirus, Rootkit and
Sniffer Detection Tool, Image Viewers, Games, etc.

The official website for NepaLinux is www.nepalinux.org. Other
available places to look for assistance are:

- Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya support forum: www.mpp.org.np/forum
- NepaLinux Mailing List www.nepalinux.org/lists
- NepaLinux Wiki: www.nepalinux.org/wiki
- IRC for realtime queries (#nepalinux on irc.freenode.net)

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           CDs OF THE GNU/LINUX KIND: Nelson Lobo
           <lobonanc@...> offers a number of downloaded
           distros for sale, at reasonable prices. See
           http://linuxdvdsale.tripod.com Money raised goes to
           support local GNU/Linux activities in North Goa.

GNU/Linux CDs offered at Rs 45 per CD plus courier charges.
Order via trueindian29@... or trueindian29@... While
ordering please denote the name of distro with correct release
no and number of CDs wanted. Moserbaer/Equal CDs. Abilash
P.Alias Puthuvamkunnathu House, Pindimana P O, Kothamangalam,
Ernakulam, Kerala, Pin 686698 Phone 04852825951.

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SEARCHING FOR A MEET VENUE? HOW ABOUT DOING IT ONLINE, VIA IRC?
This idea has been doing the rounds on LUGs, FSUGs and GLUGs
across India. It comes from Chennai-based software engineer
Shakthi Kannan <cyborg4k@...> who moots having an
all-India online meet via IRC. Date: Jan 1, 2006. Time 1500 hrs
IST. Channel #gnu-india on irc.freenode.net

Sorry about the short (no?) notice from FN's side. But just
sharing this idea to be taken up in future. Shakthi says: "No
agenda as such. The idea is to get to meet folks from different
FSUGs/GLUGs, get to know what FSUGs/GLUGs have been and are
working on, free software ideas/suggestions/plans/activities for
2006." Useful concept. It was inspired, Shakthi says, after he
heard of Luggers in Mumbai discuss where the next meet be held.

Contact Shakthi Kannan, MS Software Engineer, Hexaware
Technologies [E]: cyborg4k@... [M]: (91) 98407-87007 [W]:
http://www.shakthimaan.com [L]: Chennai, India

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DP's TIPS ON IRC: Diabolic Preacher <pintooo15@...> from
Goa has this to say: People new to using IRC should take a look
at http://irchelp.org/ a tutorial can be found at
http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html

A list of Internet Relay Chat (IRC) clients can be found at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IRC_clients IRC lets you
join the official channels of most open source projects and
interact with people for asking/answering queries in real time.

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           LUG.IN: Mitul Lambani <webmaster@...> of Mumbai is
           planning to activate and improve content levels on his
           http://lug.in site. A site for user-groups working on
           GNU/Linux. And if you'd like a listing of user-groups
           in (and nearby) India, visit FN's
           http://wikiwikiweb.de/LugsList

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FLOSS GEEK'S BLOG: Check Prakash Advani's <advani@...>
blog: http://cityblogger.com Writes Prakash, a FLOSS proponent:
"I use Wordpress, I think it supports multiple domains. It is
open source thats the reason why I use it."

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IOSN STUDY: The International Open Source Network - A Case Study
is available at http://www.apdip.net/news/iosncasestudy

           UNDP Asia-Pacific Development Information Programme
           runs a Centre of Excellence for Free/Libre Open Source
           Software (FOSS) in the Asia-Pacific region - the
           International Open Source Network (IOSN). As part of
           its myriad activities, IOSN hosts a community operated
           portal at http://www.iosn.net. This case study
           attempts to document and understand the community- and
           technology-related dimensions of this portal. For more
           information contact: Sunil Abraham and Khairil Yusof
           info@...

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FLOSS FOR GOVERNMENTS... SINGAPORE TOO: More and more countries
are embracing the collaborative model of open source on a
national level to fend off caged IT models. The Infocomm
Development Authority of Singapore’s (IDA) Technology Group has
positioned Linux as a medium term technology bet, which means
one to three years to mass adoption.
http://computerworld.com.sg/ShowPage.aspx?pagetype=2&articleid=3215&pubid=3&issu\
eid=78

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AN EXPAT-HINDU PRIEST-DEBIAN GEEK'S VIEW: Jaldhar H. Vyas
<jaldhar@...> who has the unusual combination of Hindu
priest and Debian geek, is based in the US, and part of La Salle
Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/

A great guy to meet with, this 34-year-old was in Bangalore
recently. On going back, Vyas reported that one of the problems
GNU/Linux users in countries like India face is low bandwidth.
Therefore, he argued, a distribution on CD or DVD is preferred
over large network installations or updates. He has found a
sponsor and is looking for a 1-DVD version of the Debian system.

He wrote to FN'sEyeOnGNULinux: "This is for distribution with
the Linux For You Magazine.  So 1 DVD is a must. However if you
want to also distribute DVDs I encourage you wholeheartedly. My
ultimate goal is that no one interested in Debian should be
prevented from trying it due to a lack of access."

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           GNU/LINUX FOR KIDS: If anyone is interested in
           GNU/Linux for children, Liz Probert <liz@...>
           has done an excellent piece on it:
           http://www.fraw.org.uk/pubs/cltcpb/cltc_pb-02.html

Also see some FLOSS-in-education links at
http://del.icio.us/fredericknoronh [Specially FLOSSinEducation]
http://tasty.pablotron.org/bookmarks.php/fredericknoronha

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GIS AND OPEN OFFICE IN MARATHI: Jitendra Shah
<jituviju@...> announced via the
indic-computing-users@... mailing list that
http://203.199.16.202 contains a few GIS applications and a few
web-based database application= s using FLOSS. Also, incudes
tenders of Maharashtra Government for rate-contracts where
OpenOffice.org with Marathi (Gargi) fonts as compulsory on
either platforms (proprietory or opensource). The Maharashtra
government buys an estimated 5000 PCs machines annually.

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LIST FOR INDIC COMPUTING USERS: See this
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/indic-computing-user

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           FLOSS, IN THE REAL WORLD, A QUERY FROM INDIA: M
           Sasikumar, NCST <sasi@...> asks: "Do any of
           you know of any organisation in India actually using
           [Free/Libre and] Open Source Software in practice? We
           are trying to gather information on actual use of this
           nature -- this is useful to build confidence in
           potential users. Usage can include desktops/laptops
           running Linux and other [Free/Libre and] Open Source
           software, applications running on [GNU]Linux,
           applications which are built using OSS, using OSS
           applications (Koha, Compere, etc)?" M Sasikumar is at
           the KBCS/ETU Division of CDAC Mumbai (formerly NCST).

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G KARUNAKAR IS keen to map the FLOSS movement in India at the
URL below. See Karunakar's work at http://www.indlinux.org and
his blog at http://cartoonsoft.com/blog

http://linux-bangalore.org/2005/wiki/index.php/Community_Issues#Mapping_the_FOSS\
_movement_in_India

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FREE SOFTWARE, AS A SOCIAL MOVEMENT: An interesting interview
with RMS (Richard M Stallman) on Free Software as a social
movement:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=13&ItemID=9350
Also slashdoted at
http://slashdot.org/articles/05/12/20/0356217.shtml?tid=117&tid=185
Thanks to Anivar Aravind <anivar@...> for this link.

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CONVERGENCE OF MOVEMENTS TO FIGHT IPRs ON INFORMATION: GRAIN has
recently been taking an interest in what we have been calling
‘convergence’: the ways in which people are resisting the push
for monopoly rights over information in different sectors. In
this time of unprecendented centralisation of power and control,
resistance is building on many fronts. We couldn’t help
wondering if our various struggles might be more effective if we
found some common ground. http://www.grain.org/convergence/

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GIS FOR EVERYONE: Raj <rajganesh@...> recently came up with
a proposal for the project 'GIS for everyone'. He says this is
"about implementing GIS application/tool, making it
user-friendly, and to make it appealing to users visually and
functionally based on feedback from implementation."

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           LINUXCHIX, a network for women in Free/Libre and Open
           Source Software. Check out the mailing list at
           http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Indianlc/

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KERNEL JANITORS IS A PROJECT to help persons wanting to be
kernel hackers, to get their feet wet, while doing something
useful for the community. URL: http://janitor.kernelnewbies.org/
(Thanks Ringo and Bharathi Subramanian)

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ONE DAY ONE COMMAND is a useful service put out by Bharathi
Subramanian <sbharathi@...>. If you'd like him to post
this direct to your user-group's mailing list, contact Bharathi.
Specimen posts: http://www.livejournal.com/community/ilugc/
A great way of keeping your mailing-list active, and also
sharing information on the nuts and bolts of FLOSS technologies.

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           HACKING THE HURD, INDIAN TECHIES GO FOR IT: Praveen A
           <pravi.a@...> recently announced a GNU/Hurd BoF.
           It's for you, if you are a GNU/Hurd user/developer or
           simply want to know more about GNU/Hurd. It was
           organised by India GNU/Hurd User Group (I-Hug), #i-hug
           at irc.freenode.org and i-hug.sarovar.org on December
           20. If you missed the event, get in touch with Praveen
           offline.

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FSF FRIENDS IN DELHI: A new mailing list announced by Arun M
<arun@...> who says, "In order to bring together friends
of FSF India in Delhi, we are creating a new mailing list. If
you are from Delhi or interested in FSF India activities in
Delhi join our new mailing list.
http://mm.gnu.org.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fsf-delhi

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ONE COMMENT ON FLOSS AND EDUCATION: "Most distributions contain
simple games. But only a few contain programs that are really
good for use with young kids (see the following section). SuSE
Linux has probably the widest selection of games and educational
software. Mandrake is also fairly good, closely followed by
Debian. But Red Hat tends to be the worst of all the major
distributions as it concentrates on being a more technical Linux
system rather than a user-friendly desktop system. Of all the
distributions I've tried."

A friend from Redhat replies: "We are aware of this and are
working on alternatives. We are also working on trimming down
the OS so that it can run on older hardware."

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UBUNTU IN ASIA: The Ubuntu team is planning to have business
tour around Asia next year. If they visit your country and if
you are interested in it with some extra time/energy, feel free
to contact them. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AsiaBusinessTour

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INDIAN CONTRIBUTION to the world of FLOSS: Check these URLs
http://www.fsf.org.in/free-software-directory/dir.html
http://bangalore.gnu.org.in/?IndianFreeSoftwareProjects

Writes prominent hacker Anand Babu <ab@...> -- see his
-- blog at http://ab.freeshell.org comments: "My main
motivation to compile this list is to bring together
potential free software hackers from India and recognize
their work. We should also make sure that this directory is
contributed back to mainstream DIRECTORY.FSF.ORG".

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PONDICHERRY LUG IS active again. Check
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/p_lug/

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PUBLIC-INTEREST LITIGATION AGAINST BANGALORE ONE: A PIL
against the Bangalore One project's alleged irregularities
has been admitted by the Karnataka High Court, according to a
post from the eGov INDIA <egovindia@...> mailing list.
This Dec 17, 2005 post said what had been challenged was "the
legality of prescribing Microsoft technology which is
proprietary and costed when [Free/Libre and] Open Source
Software was available free. The MoU entered into between the
Government of Karnataka and Microsoft had been challenged in
the Writ Petition." See also:
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/dec142005/state18431120051213.asp

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FREE SOFTWARE ON THE SCREEN: V. Sasi Kumar
<sasi.fsf@...> explains how bridges are being built
between FLOSS and film-makers: "On December 15, we did a
short demonstration of Free Software related to media at the
International Film Festival of Kerala. We showed Blender,
Audacity, Kino, Adore, etc., although we could not really
demonstrate all features of the applications since we did not
have anyone who was experienced in using them. However,
Blender and Adore attracted some attention and a few
professionals talked to us after the demo. I understand that
a couple of other people collected our contact details from
the Kerala State Chalachitra Academy (organisers of the
Festival) later. We had put up a few posters at the major
venue (Kairali-Sree theatre complex) earlier. IFFK is
considered as one of the top ten Film Festivals in the world,
and we are happy that we could get an entry there. We hope to
plan and conduct similar demonstrations in the coming years.
A report on the demo with a couple of photographs will be put
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BOOK IN BENGALI: Dipankar Das has been at this book for a
long time now aiming to provide a holistic idea of GNU-Linux
in Bengali. Some dated information is here:
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Hi all,
After the last update of my SUSE 10 my laptop battery level indicator
is working. I can now say that the ACER Aspire 5002 NWLMI works
properly with SUSE 10, barring the fact that it uses the windows
driver on ndis wrapper for wifi.
Rgs
Neville

Hey,

I've been trying to install debian and two times have
messed it up badly. The first time my video card did
not get detected properly, and the second time gdm
crashed.

Can somebody give instructions on the installation
procedure, such as how do i select the packages at
install time, and how do i use apt once i have
installed the system. Also another problem i am having
is i cannot have screen resolution more than 800*600
(and mind you this is a 17" monitor!).

Dhaval

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>From HINDUSTAN TIMES
January 5, 2006

GOOGLE MAY NOT GO SIMPUTER WAY

Venkatesh Ganesh
Mumbai, January 4

GOOGLE's ENTRY into the sub-Rs 10,000 PC market has rattled the cage of
existing players. But the search-engine giant's entry into the hardware
sector in India with a thin-client model (a PC with no hard disk and
computing) may not be a walkover.

HT was the first to report on December 15, 2005 about the Google's plans
to enter the Indian market with thin-client model.

Early entrants like the Simputer and other low-cost PCs are being still
viewed skeptically. Globally too, thin-clients have managed to make only
small inroads.

But the real fight is for a different space. Google appears to be
looking to dethrone Microsoft from its desktop throne.

"Thin clients have been viewed in a cautious manner primarily due to the
price factor. But with Google entering the fray at such an attractive
price point, things might change," says Nitin Mukadam, an e-commerce
consultant.

The advantage with thin clients is that the storage happens in a central
server. For example, all data and applications (like word processors,
spreadsheets, etc) are hosted in a central server. This solves a lot of
problems right from storage to viruses.

Also, with bandwidth prices coming down, the commercial viability of a
thin-client device is now more feasible. Then, therere are issues with
regards to Random Access Memory (RAM) that can run with even small
memory space.

Industry analysts opine that Google has a rough road ahead. "Delivering
complete functionality in a thin-client is most challenging," Sameer
Kochhar CEO of Skotch told the Hindustan Times.

Translated, it would imply that since Windows is the pre-dominant
operating system, operating on non-Windows system would take some
getting used to (Google would bundle Linux-based applications).

Sanjeev Sharma, managing director, Fujusan Technologies, an Indian
representative of Fujitsu, the Japanese IT and communication solution
provider, feels that the acceptance of a device of this kind will be
predominantly in the small office-home office.(ENDS)

Hello,

I tried installing Xine on Fedora Core 4.  Every thing seeme to be OK,
but it doesn't detect a VCD in the CD Drive.  Complains .dat format
not supported.  Can play mp3 files.  Any suggestions?

Thank you.

Ramesh Kini. M.

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Hello,

You can use mplayer for viewing VCDs. Pretty good.

user$ mplayer vcd://

For dvd its jus

user$ mplayer dvd://

But think Ogle player supports DVD menus also.

Regards,
Aanjhan
www.tuxmaniac.com

Hi all,

To those debian lovers
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/

--- In ilug-mangalore@yahoogroups.com, Venkataraja <mvenkataraja@g...>
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> To those debian lovers
> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/
>
And I Neville Fernandez write :-P
I have mirrored the above website/book, anyone wants can contact me.
Only 2.7 MB compressed

Debian is such a beauty, one will realise only after using it for
sometime. I am happy with etch.

Thanks to input from you guys, I assembled another computer for my
clinic. It is ASRock K8 Upgrade VM800 motherboard with Sempron 2600+
processor and 256 MB RAM. Used mercury cabinet. It is great. No problems
in installing Debian Etch. Working perfectly.

Regards,

Giridhar Kamath

>Message: 1
>   Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:12:29 +0530
>   From: Venkataraja <mvenkataraja@...>
>Subject: Learn Debian
>
>Hi all,
>
>To those debian lovers
>http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/
>
>
>


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Kasturba Medical College, Mangalore
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hey,

thanks for that link.

neville, can i collect a copy of the book from you.
some time when we can meet?

dhaval

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I would suggest you both to meet in the LUG meeting this weekend. ;-)
Dhaval Giani wrote:

>
> hey,
>
> thanks for that link.
>
> neville, can i collect a copy of the book from you.
> some time when we can meet?
>
> dhaval

Hi all
Check this humour in disguise
http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/01/04/167235&from=rss
<http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/01/04/167235&from=rss>

Venkataraja wrote:
> I would suggest you both to meet in the LUG meeting this weekend. ;-)
Is the meeting this weekend? If so is it at IBM or Canara....

Regards,
Nithin Kamath

--- Nithin Kamath <knithink@...> wrote:

> Venkataraja wrote:
> > I would suggest you both to meet in the LUG meeting this
> weekend. ;-)
> Is the meeting this weekend? If so is it at IBM or Canara....
>

It would be good if we can have it in Canara.
Venkat did you get a chance to talk to Umesh Mallya ? I think LK
too was trying to get the meeting at Canara.

- GK



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--- Nithin Kamath <knithink@...> wrote:

> Venkataraja wrote:
> > I would suggest you both to meet in the LUG meeting this
> weekend. ;-)
> Is the meeting this weekend? If so is it at IBM or Canara....
>

It would be good if we can have it in Canara.
Venkat did you get a chance to talk to Umesh Mallya ? I think LK
too was trying to get the meeting at Canara.

- GK

On Tuesday 10 Jan 2006 6:48 pm, Venkataraja wrote:

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> </span></span>. <br>
> So, I think we can have it there gradually down the line. (Maybe
> after two more meetings in IBM ACE).<span
> class="moz-smiley-s7"><span> :-\ </span></span><br> <br>
> <br>
> Girish Kamath wrote:
> <blockquote
>  cite="mid20060110110213.98039.qmail@..."
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> > Venkataraja wrote:<br>
> > > I would suggest you both to meet in the LUG meeting
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> > Is the meeting this weekend? If so is it at IBM or
> Canara....<br> > <br>
>   <br>
> It would be good if we can have it in Canara. <br>
> Venkat did you get a chance to talk to Umesh Mallya ? I think
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> IBM Advanced Career Education Center<br>
> 2nd Floor (Above Shoppin)<br>
> Willy's Centre<br>
> Balmatta<br>
> Mangalore-1<br>
> <br>
> <b>Agenda:</b><br>
> 1 - 05 mins - Breaking the ice - Introduction of members<br>
> 2 - 05 mins - Making the most out of our LUG <br>
> 3 - 20 mins - Managing Fedora using 'yum' & Multimedia
> enabling Fedora by <i>Venkataraja (IBM ACE)</i><br>
> 4 - 20 mins - Video Show<br>
> 5 - 05 mins -  Break<br>
> 6 - 20 mins -  Introduction to using the ddd (the
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I use Thunderbird.
Maybe because I sent the mail only as HTML you received like that.
But do you receive all my mails like that?

Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

> On Tuesday 10 Jan 2006 6:48 pm, Venkataraja wrote:
>
> how to read this:
>
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> > But <b>now</b> we cant have the meeting there as he is not
> > convinced about our motives<span class="moz-smiley-s8"><span> =-O
> > </span></span>. <br>
> > So, I think we can have it there gradually down the line. (Maybe
> > after two more meetings in IBM ACE).<span
> > class="moz-smiley-s7"><span> :-\ </span></span><br> <br>
> > <br>
> > Girish Kamath wrote:
> > <blockquote

...

(I use thunderbird client the earlier messages were sent only as HTML
& maybe some had problems viewing those)

(Reposting in plain text format)

Details for this months meeting:

Date : Saturday 14, January  2006
Time: 3:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m.

Venue:
IBM Advanced Career Education Center
2nd Floor (Above Shoppin)
Willy's Centre
Balmatta
Mangalore-1

Agenda:
1 - 05 mins - Breaking the ice - Introduction of members
2 - 05 mins - Making the most out of our LUG
3 - 20 mins - Managing Fedora using 'yum' & Multimedia enabling Fedora
by Venkataraja (IBM ACE)
4 - 20 mins - Video Show
5 - 05 mins -  Break
6 - 20 mins -  Introduction to using the ddd (the Data Display
Debugger) by Laxminarayan Kamath (Deeproot Linux)
7 - 30 mins - General Discussion
8 - 10 mins - Discussion about next meeting

(Note:Member's presence 5 minutes earlier is highly appreciated)

On Tuesday 10 Jan 2006 7:41 pm, Venkataraja wrote:
> I use Thunderbird.
> Maybe because I sent the mail only as HTML you received like
> that. But do you receive all my mails like that?

last two were like that - most mailing lists ban html, i would
suggest that this list admin does the same.

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