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#1641 From: GeoZay@...
Date: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:49 am
Subject: Meteor shower on Mars
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I just read the following blurp from NASA about it's Rovers on Mars:

>>Mars is currently passing through a debris trail of Halley's comet, and
Spirit is attempting to observe resulting meteor showers with the
panoramic camera at night.<<

>>Does anybody know what constellation these meteors would be coming from?
Perseids?<<

Whoops! I meant maybe the Orionids? The Perseids come from comet
Swift/Tuttle.
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#1643 From: vaubaill <vaubaill@...>
Date: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: Meteor shower on Mars
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Hi guies,

The Martian radiant of the shower causd by 1P/Halley is located in
Gemini: Martian Geminids then ;-)

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#1649 From: Valentin Grigore <vali_sarm@...>
Date: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:41 pm
Subject: METEOR CONTEMPORARY POETRY PROJECT (6)
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METEOR CONTEMPORARY POETRY PROJECT (6)
-Andrei Dorian Gheorghe (adg@...), Alastair
McBeath (meteor@...), Valentin Grigore
(vali_sarm@...)-

In this issue:
I. METEOR POEMS (1.Fallen Stars; 2.Meteors)
II. METEOR POETRY EVENTS 2005 (1. Earth and Meteors –
Bucharest, March; 2. Perseids 2005 Camp –
Crasna-Covasna, July-August; 3. International Meteor
Conference 2005 – Oostmalle, September, during the 9th
Saturday night Astroshow, when the conference
participants tried as usual to relax after the day’s
scientific presentations)
III. METEOR HUMOUR: THE EARTHIDS

Previous issues:
-Leonid 2002 Poetry – prologue, December 2002
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1088
-MCPP (1), June 2003
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1177
-MCPP (2), December 2003
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1321
-MCPP (3), June 2004
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1392
-The Song of the IMC – a September 2004 supplement
by Jeremie Vaubaillon
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1455
-MCPP (4), December 2004
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1507
-MCPP (5), June 2005
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imo-news/message/1573

The next issue, for which we wait for submissions,
will appear at the summer solstice 2006.
-Coordinators-

“It is important to wake up the hidden artistic
qualities in astronomers.”
-Paul Roggemans (Belgium)-

I. METEOR POEMS

“With the blue blood of the falling stars
trying to embrace the fecund Earth,
I inoculate the wings of the vast constellations...”
-Dominic Diamant (Romania)-

1. FALLEN STARS

SPECIAL MOMENT
-by Giovanni Malito (1957-2003, Canada / Ireland;
a tribute to his memory at
http://www.nhi.clara.net/z106.htm )-

spending so much time
with the moon and stars today-
winter solstice

…and a falling star
crossing
the sky

A THOUGHT ABOUT MY MOTHER EUGENIA RADU (1942-2005),
FORMER PROFESSIONAL ASTRONOMER AT CLUJ OBSERVATORY
-by Gelu-Claudiu Radu (Romania)-

My mother has gone to watch meteors and stars closer.

TO HARALD ALEXANDRESCU (1945-2005), EX-COORDINATOR OF
“ADMIRAL VASILE URSEANU” MUNICIPAL OBSERVATORY IN
BUCHAREST
-by Andrei Dorian Gheorghe (Romania)-

July falling star
border to the absolute
people who never die

2. METEORS

AGEING OF MARBLE
(TO A MONUMENTAL WHITE METEOR)
~by Adrian Sima (Romania)~

I’m getting older…
and can only sculpt
your statue-

small sanctuary
of strong milk

HAIKU
-by Michaela Al. Orescu (Romania)-

meteor shower
setting on fire through explosions
Terra’s mantle

MEMORIES
-by Ovidiu Vaduvescu (Romania / Canada)-

My love,
perhaps you will return in time,
and will remember
that wonderful night…
when I drove the clouds away,
giving you a bouquet of meteors…
when I told you about the stars,
teaching you to count them,
and I carried you to them…

But now it is late,
the stage is deserted,
and I must sign up in the list
of my great emotions:

a crazy sentimentalist.

HAIKU
-by Simona Vaduvescu (Romania / Canada)-

meteor-
a small planet predestined to die
too early…

LYRIDS
-by Dominic Diamant (Romania)-

Orpheus with his lyre
taming wild animals

a lyre delighting
the ethereal forest

a lyre bridled
by Orpheus’ celestial tears

HAIKU
-by Iulian Olaru (Romania)-

sprightly meteors
in the sky of the soul
voices of children

SPACE AND ECO TOURISM
-by Ion Moraru (Romania)-

Last summer
it was perfect for me in the Danube Delta,
but all ended with
too much motion upon eternal waters…

I am also reminded of the Earth’s orbit,
where a lot of residues of human civilization
gravitate,
not only pure meteoroids
and virtual meteors…

LOOKING FOR METEORS IN ICELAND
-by Gerald England (U.K.)-

out from under
a ceiling of darkblue cloud;
we sail into sunrise

METEOR MEMORY
-by Cristina Slovineanu (Romania)-

Playing my game
On a lost flight

Learning to burn singing
For fond people

Learning to fall dying
Under specks of light

CYGNIDS
-by Andrei Dorian Gheorghe (Romania)-

Small fiery swans flying and singing:
“We are dancing
in the sky!”

-read at IMC 2001-

METEOR PHOTOGRAPHS
-by Maria Nutu-Sima (Romania)-

Bright falls from the sun in the night,
Shadows of heavenly bodies,
Burning bits of time,
A competition
In a photographic laboratory.

IN A BILLION CREATION STORIES
-by Steve Sneyd (U.K.)-

half-formed young world pulls
older to crash, burn: impact
debris gift’s new moon

METEOR IMAGES FROM MY POEMS
COMPOSED IN COMMUNIST POLITICAL PRISONS (3)-
1951. IN THE PRISON OF AIUD, AFTER A FELLOW PRISONER’S
DEATH
-by Constantin Dumitrescu-Cunctator (Romania)-

The night developing an immense cover.
A star sparkling among the clouds,
Coming down and smiling
Like in an optimistic text…

…And I murmuring:
“Tomorrow, my God, who’s the next?”

A PERSEID
-by Diana Maria Ogescu (Romania)-

like a lightning bolt
irreversibly harming
the wing of the Swan

THREE QUARTERS FULL
(DROPS OF SILVER STARLIGHT)
-by Srinjay Chakravarti (India)-

a tall frosted glass
and the sliced half-lemon
of an orb three nights before the full moon.
its rind,
propped up on the rim,
resting on a slender straw
poised,
slanting,
along eternity’s edge.

from the blue hills of forever
far beyond twilight’s horizon,
the evening’s rain sieves
lunar ichor
dripping from midnight’s milky way –
drops of silver starlight
flavoured with a sweet tang

and with your flash lime soda
you sip celestial radiance
from your tall frosted glass

your fingerprints on its circumference
patterning whorls of shadow
against the black starlit void
of an entire universe.

THE METEOR
-by Florian Saioc (Romania)-

Guided through the darkness
By the blind force of great gravity,
It flashed in the sky like a lucifer match
(A moment lost in the infinite)

And I was sad I couldn’t catch fire
For my pipe, from it.

WHO
-by Dan Mitrut (Romania)-

Who is the water of blue?
Who is the blind man of light?
Remoteness of astral love…
Who is the dog on the moon?

Sky of bitter beech,
the photosphere of a dream
stabs me…

Who is the bread which burns,
cries and laughs?

Unlucky game,
the song of the dolphin
arrowed by a leonid.

HAIKU
-by Tina Visarian (Romania)-

end of night
the last meteor
a rumble through the fog

GEMINIDS
-by Zigmund Tauberg (Romania)-

Castor and Pollux use
Godlike armament for fight
As for their training:
Stones on fire wings in flight.

II. METEOR POETRY EVENTS 2005

“I think the Universe conspires to help the people
with good souls.”
-Juan Martin Semegone (Argentina)-

1. EARTH AND METEORS – A ROMANIAN JOINT ASTROPOETRY
READING OF THE JEWISH REALITY MAGAZINE LITERARY CIRCLE
AND THE ROMANIAN SOCIETY FOR METEORS AND
ASTRONOMY-SARM, BUCHAREST, MARCH

“…a storm without his wish, out of him...”
-Dorel Dorian-

“…man on the edge of the Universe, or (who knows?)
maybe even in its centre…”
-Toma Hirth-

“… people used to lose time by laughing…”
-Horia Arama-

THE SOLAR SYSTEM AND US
-by Zigmund Tauberg-

It is placed on a peripheral position,
and surrounded by a retinue of planets,
asteroids, and meteoroids,
and meteors, and comets.

In this kingdom placed on an arm
of the Galaxy,
it is the only one that gives
living light and energy.

Its fairer subjects, named Jupiter, Saturn,
Uranus, Neptune and Pluto,
receive a lesser quantity
from its treasure.

The smaller and closer planets
receive much more from the Sun,
and the Earth is the most beloved.

Much life, superb nature, and us,
thinking beings pushed by
enthusiasm and knowledge,
and using science
to study even the outside world
and remote phenomena.

Us, thinking beings pushed by
a mysterious wish
and becoming a part
of the Universe’s consciousness
and art.

METEOR RELIGION
-by Andrei Dorian Gheorghe-

The only religion of the meteors
is to be liked
by the people

STANZAS
-by Felicia Mohr-

Is the Earth with its beings
a penitentiary
where we expiate old sins?

We should enjoy a sunbeam,
a moonbeam, a meteor, the starlight-
decorations of the eternal sky
spread beyond boundlessness…

METEOR SHOWER
-by Adrian Sima-

the sky is broken;
drops of burnt blood
are flowing through my veins

RECOVERY
-by Ion Moraru-

Yesterday evening I was waiting for a bus. Bored, I
looked at houses, trees, blocks of flats and, beyond
them, I found some gleaming stars like some old
friends. Yes, they were the same stars of my
childhood, in the same constellations. Only the rare
meteors were different… and hidden by the light
pollution…
I also looked for the Moon, my main confidant a long
time ago, when I asked for her help in my trials…
Now, she was hiding a part of her face, an amazed
girl. She was in a carnival! And suddenly I saw all as
a holiday, with my old friends the stars, the timid
meteors and the tricky Moon looking at us from behind
a mask…

The sky is so fine… because it is eternal!

THE METEOR
-by Boris Marian-

“Happiness means
to pass over preliminary conditions”,
the teacher sings in “molto cantabile”
and laughs like a child,
but his neighbours are upset with him,
they are always suspicious of the sublime.

“If you hoped, forget yesterday”,
the teacher shouts at them.
“Who or what is the motor
that moves the wing and the meteor?

Without sliding on the action slope,
how could you defeat the lying gods?”,
the teacher says, checking his basis,
and a meteor divinely passes.

SIDEREAL TIME
-by Dan Mitrut-

Time broken like unleavened bread
Eucharist bread for people
spiritual bread for angels

only the night sighs for us with Lyrids
and from the sleep of the tear-seeds
today we create stories

ETERNAL GARDEN
-by Dominic Diamant-

In Your eternal garden, my God,
with so many wonders,
and where I incidentally cast shadow too,
there is room for all.

Somewhere galaxies give light,
and lots of stars are exultant.
They do not care if elsewhere
rains of meteors, flashing,
fall like fiery hailstones.

COSMO-PARTY
-by Arnold Leinweber-

Some meteors passed
through the canopy of heaven
to announce a party in the stars’ honour,

in which guests from many galaxies
will dance to astral melodies.

But a crazy comet is furious
for she doesn’t have a partner,

and a black hole
(that was not invited)
threatens to absorb all…

CALL
-by Doina Chilargi-

Let’s leave this strange world
Full of meanness and envy.
Let’s look for another planet
Among unknown galaxies,
With other falling stars
Warning not of death,
But a happy life!

2. ASTROPOEMS COMPOSED OR READ AT THE PERSEIDS 2005
CAMP OF THE ROMANIAN SOCIETY FOR METEORS AND
ASTRONOMY-SARM, CRASNA-COVASNA, JULY-AUGUST
(some of the verses below were exhibited at the
International Meteor Conference – Oostmalle 2005)

“This is a beautiful world through which we pass so
quickly…”
-Calin Niculae-

PERSEIDS 2005
-by Valentin Grigore-

We chose to live only us and the sky for a while.
The sky is close to us, we can feel it by watching
through the telescope, or with the naked eye.
But we have to ask ourselves and to find an answer:
Were we really close to the sky?

BEYOND THE GATE
-by Diana Georgescu-Mitrut-

Drink, Perseus,
from the tears of the set comets.
Rebuke us,
throwing the light of the re-born souls.
Magic eyes will deeply breathe
the judgment of your sword.

INFINITE
-by Alexandru Alecu-

There are meteoric questions
which cannot move the canopy of heaven.

Who am I? Who are we?
Is infinity really infinite?

I don’t have any right
to judge this world,
looking at the zenith
in my finite infinite.

METEOR HAIKU
-by Adrian Sima-

up in the sky
seconds of embers catching fire
in passing

THE FLYING BEING
-by Dominic Diamant-

Hop-la hop-la hop-la
playing in a trapeze
balancing among the stars

I knew that somewhere
my darling was waiting for me

Hop-la hop-la hop-la
flying dizzy by the thought
of my total victory
and suddenly falling

The deep echo shouting

“Leave the flying being to come to me!
I have been waiting for him for a long time,
night after night!”

But my shame was putting out
the light.

COSMIC CALL
-by Silviu Georgescu-

We contemplate the sky,
brave travellers looking for the
right path.
Celestial flowers,
centaurs with chariots,
and famous guides
coming on ciphered corridors…

Complicated cosmic ways…
Fascinated, we pass through constellations
by riding tailed comets and meteors.

“Knowing, we are creating!”-
researchers conclude.

LOOKING FOR ANOTHER SUN
-by Dan Mitrut-

The comet looked for another sun
to steal his form-memory,
laying in wait for each whisper
roving from the Cosmos’ creation.

Mother of meteors,
bird of prey,
she lightened like a
strange kind of life.

A NIGHT AT “PERSEIDS 2005”
-by Andrei Dorian Gheorghe-

The same sky for all of us,
with many attractions one after the other:
Venus, Jupiter, Summer Triangle,
Mars, Moon, Pleiades…

In the camp, a few telescopes
as communication lines
with deep sky objects.

Around the camp, a few peaks
as tribunes
for us to acclaim meteors.

TEACHER TETILEANU’S METEOR REVERSE PRINCIPLE
-by Mihai Tetileanu-

If I see a small meteor
coming from Cygnus to Capricornus,
than certainly it is not a
small Capricornid meteor.

PLATOON
-astropoetic tragicomedy by Sorin Hotea and Alexandru
Conu-

Sorin Hotea:
Two astronomers from a camp platoon
were bored to wait for meteors
and began to look for a hostile world.

Alexandru Conu:
They searched in parallel
and found the same heavenly bodies.
A double star low down
and other ones near it…

Sorin Hotea:
The field was arranged,
quiet stars in platoon,
only some neighbours without minds
were performing stupid songs.

Alexandru Conu:
The Snake was too low,
the sky became foggy,
we neglected small meteors
and burnt ourselves some neurons
in the heavenly saloon,
but we didn’t find Pluto
in the astral platoon.

PERSEIDS 2005
-by Alin Tolea (Romania / U.S.A.)-

Cover me
I feel the absolute cold stealing my warmth
I hear warm and powerless stars calling me

Put on me a shadow of kiss
You
Goddess of the suns

UNDER THE PERSEID SKY
-by Cristina Slovineanu-

We wish for the sky and are the most beautiful
dreamers,
we are the most beautiful because we accompany meteors
and stars,
and otherwise we would lose ourselves in desert
mirrors

We wish for meteors and stars and all that is hidden
from our gazes,
we wish for them so much, with so much passion,
that a treasure more precious would not exist

We wish that goodwill gaze
would pass over the borders of civilization
out of the killing words

We wish that voice out of words
to receive memories of meteors and stars
and the power of beauty

We wish for feelings and look for them in space
because we are suffocated here by materiality
and we wish to love and to be loved

Now, dear stranger, tell me,
would you like to choose the same dream
which gave us life,
which made us be better?

PERSEIDS 2005
-by Oana Raduta-

Golden crown in the infinite,
Total joy in the absolute,
Re-found dreams in the universe and
…Light drops in the soul.

Watch them and be happy!

3. NEW ASTROPOEMS READ IN THE TRADITIONAL LAST NIGHT
ASTROSHOW OR COMPOSED DURING THE INTERNATIONAL METEOR
CONFERENCE 2005 - OOSTMALLE, BELGIUM, SEPTEMBER

“And I like to go to this conference once a year
I will tell the truth I don’t know any better
No matter if you’re from the East, West, South or
North
Please come on in as soon as you love meteors”
-Jeremie Vaubaillon (France; Chorus from The Song of
the IMC 2005)-

“We came from afar
Following a star
Immy was her name…”
-Geoff Grayer (U.K.)-

“Did you feel the people’s love?
That’s important!”
-Antonio Martinez (Venezuela; words at the IMC 2005)-

“Sometimes it’s better to say nothing.”
-Arnold Tukkers (Holland; after the wonderful IMC
2005)-

FIREBALLS ON A HUMAN SCALE>~
-by Andrei Dorian Gheorghe (Romania)-

*
Nicholas Copernicus was a daylight fireball, his
brightness competing with that of the Sun.
*
Giordano Bruno was a symbolic fireball, showing the
clearest self-sacrifice for the light.
*
Galileo Galilei was a fireball with important details
visible through the lunette.
*
Isaac Newton was a fireball brighter than any planet.
*
Albert Einstein was a fireball trying to fly with the
speed of light.

HAIKU
-by Galina Ryabova (Russia)-

Hey, you! Upstairs!
Are you jumping or what?!
Even stars fall down.

MOON AND METEORS
-by Diana Tampu (Romania)-

The meteor storm has begun.
Sad summer stars.
The Moon is crying,
sending to you,
from her soul,
pearls of pain.

LIMERICK-
TO MALCOLM CURRIE
-by David Asher (U.K.)-

A meteor astronomer named Currie
Was faced with a rather big worry
As he needed to write
For the Saturday night
A limerick in quite a hurry.

LIMERICK (new variant)-
TO RAINER ARLT
-by Malcolm Currie (U.K.)-

The wily astronomer Rainer
Counts meteors from his recliner
In the Perseid shower
He bins twelve times per hour
But now his Aux curve is much finer

A MESSAGE TO IMMY THE SHOOTING STAR
(the mascot of IMC 2005)
-by Andrei Dorian Gheorghe (Romania)-

Dear Immy:

Rigidity
Kills creativity.
Believe me!

Poetically,
Any meteor is lovely.
So help me!

THE LIMERICK FOR MINOR PLANET
"13352 GYSSENS"
(TO MARC GYSSENS)
-by Jean Marc Wislez (Belgium)-

A tiny professor from Boechout,
Turned out to be crying out loud:
"I am not a stone,
Flying alone,
There's plenty of Immy's around!"

METEOR QUATRAIN
~by Oleg Belkovich (Russia)~

I am watching the sky
I am looking for meteors
But explain me why
Am I seeing ladies?

DAWN
-by Jos Nijland (Holland)-

Do you know why I don’t like dawn sometimes?
When dawn ends a beautiful clear night filled with
many fireballs.

Do you know why I do like dawn sometimes?
When dawn is the beginning of celebrating a successful
observation night with your friends.

Do you know why there has to be dawn?
Because maybe you will start celebrating at night
first, and feeling like a misty fireball at daylight.

SPONTANEOUS METAPHORICAL DIALOGUE
-by Valentin Grigore (Romania) and Casper ter Kuile
(Holland)-

Valentin:
What do you say about Gabriel Ivanescu’s memorable
picture 1997, including a Perseid meteor, lightning
and Jupiter?

Casper:
It was light in multi-station.

MISSION
-by Andrei Dorian Gheorghe (Romania)-

I am a crazy astronaut
who was incognito in 2005
on Comet Tempel 1,
and I stole a few particles from her.

Back on Earth,
I wanted to donate them,
but all the museums rejected me, saying:

“We collect meteorites, not meteoroids!
How can you dare to come
with cosmic stones
that were not blessed
by atmospheric burning?”

III. METEOR HUMOUR

“year wheel
ends full turn,
new begins;
in between two,
instant forever”
-Steve Sneyd (U.K.), AT SKY GATE – Solstice & New Year
Greetings-

THE EARTHIDS – ANOTHER METEOR SHOWER>~
-by Razvan Ciomartan (Romania)-

For a long time, a meteor shower has appeared yearly.
It is not included in the International Meteor
Organization’s Calendar, but it is regular, exactly on
December 31-January 1. Meteors of different colours
appearing in the sky, and leaving spectacular traces,
many of them even creating shadows. They can be
observed especially in the big towns. It is the only
meteor shower untouched by light pollution.

*
Its maximum is recorded from 23.45-00.15, with an
outburst at 0.00, but the people are not afraid of it.
On the contrary, some of them buy “meteoroids” from
markets before, and launch them during the maximum,
helping this phenomenon.

*
Analyzing its maximum, the specialists haven’t yet
established the radiant of this meteor shower, because
the meteors seem to come from all directions. But some
scientists, flying by plane during the maximum, said
that the meteors seem to come from the Earth, and
proposed they be named… the Earthids!

*
The opinions about the zenithal hourly rate, or the
population index, or the magnitude distribution are
numerous and different. But all the specialists
foresee that the next maximum of this meteor shower
will appear at the same moment of the following year.

*****

Andrei Dorian Gheorghe’s Works
http://www.adg2005.go.ro/index.html
Alastair McBeath’s Leonids – sort of
http://www.astropoetica.com/Fall05/iap_6.html
Astropoetic Dramas
http://sarm.astropoetica.com/astrodrama/contents.html


* * * * * * * * * * * * *
Valentin Grigore
President of SARM
(Romanian Society for Meteors and Astronomy)
CP 14, OP 1, Targoviste, RO-130170, Dambovita, ROMANIA
phone: +40 245 213851, +40 0722829034 (gsm)
e-mail: sarm@..., vali_sarm@...
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