http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~income/cv.htm

Objective 2000. .

Career Summary 1969-1999

Strengths

Education

Interests

30 Years Of Hardware-Software Beta Testing Programming Computer Salesman

Desktop Publishing

Networks

Languages

Operating Systems

Tools

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Anyone who has seen the movie PI will know what I mean when I say that my
computer may have become conscious just prior to
crashing.

Yesterday I came across "The Ism book" that lists 153 ism categories in HTML. I
proceeded to create WinGrid project using these
links.

After some difficulty I managed to import the grid and managed to listen to a
pretty good sort from subjectivism all the way to
dogmatism. The next time it wouldn't work and the flow was uneven. Then I
noticed the Pearson Correlation "top twenty" table
wasn't sorting like how I envisioned it should. Mind you I've never worked with
this sized grid before. Smaller grids seemed to
sort just fine. My brain right now lacks the ability to find out what went
wrong.

The plot looks orderly so maybe its a badly linked table at fault.

I have downloaded wingrid97 and appear to have successfully installed
it but on trying to run the programme after the opening welcome window
the programme crashes reporting a Run time error 7 - "out of memory" .
I am running on a 64 MB PC with an AMD K6 200mHz processor .  PLease
can you advise ?

Meanwhile VB is setting the standard,

             Why Linux Makes
            Sense for India

            Posted by
            Roblimo on
            Sunday January
            30, @12:00PM
            from the
            penguins-on-every-continent dept.
            "The localisation of Linux to
            Indian languages can spark off a
            revolution that reaches down to
            the grassroots levels of the
            country," writes Prof. Venkatesh
            Hariharan. Read the rest of his
            informative essay Below.

            Why Linux Makes Sense for
            India

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/01/30/1042201&mode=nocomment

            In conclusion, it has to be said that
            the Indianisation of Linux (IndLinux)
            is one of the most practical ways of
            making information technology
            available to millions and millions of
            Indians. It is now upto linguistic and
            technical groups to collaborate and
            make things happen.

            -0-

            Prof. Venkatesh Hariharan is with
            the Indian Institute of Information
            Technology, Bangalore. He can be
            reached at venky@....

Prof. Venkatesh Hariharan,

I liked your article at Slashdot.com and hope one day to
collaborate with you on the creation of IndGrid. This isn't
IndLinux yet but would be an international version of my WinGrid
project.

WinGrid is Ingrid99 for Windows and because my dual licensing
allows the for derivative names to become more meaningful, I
feel more compelled by your article to sponsor an IndGrid
project than a LinGrid one at this stage.

Can you access experienced resource file programmers to work on
my VB project for which I've already set the basic international
standard in the toolbox icons?

IndGrid would be sort of like an Indra's Net for professional
economists
and traders through to artists, linguists, lovers and surfers.

Let me know when you're ready.


Regards,
j.
http://ingrid.netpedia.net

The format of the ingrid and ingridoo groups is changing. Some
people may want to review their membership.

Ingridoo will cease to be for downloads only as Version 1.0 is
released into the new year. Instead the ingridoo group will also
get ads for other groups where WinGrid is being tried out as per
the following introductory survey.

nadiah@... wrote:

> hi,
>
> i need to know whether i can use visual basic for neural networks,
> especially for my end user interface to enter data. i use microsoft
> access as my database.
>

I'm finishing off a year's rewrite of an ancient program called INGRID
in  VB5+SP3 and it's available via the WinGrid Free Public License at:
-

http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid_html

It has an entirely new user interface not found anywhere else. You'll
find in the source code all the stubs you need for linking to your
access database.

I describe WinGrid as middleware for the olap market but here aren't
many heavy benchmarks of WinGrid as yet. It should break a few records
though.

WinGrid makes use of a variant of a higher order PCA, a la ICA. WinGrid
1.0 will be available for download at the beginning of next year. As
yet it doesn't form part of any recurrent network although a loose
scriptwriter's framework exists.

I'm stopping my active software development and will enter a phase of
training and applying grids to live research. This should allow someone
else to perform a standard software maintenance role. Instead I will
concentrate on the use of WinGrid in developing my own personal
construct psychology by tackling a broad range of issues.

Here's a script writing example.

"In my other role as a member of the virtual paparazzi I stumbled
across Bill Clinton blissfully unaware of being swept away in an
impending scandal and had a choice of rescuing him or getting a time
warped prize-winning photograph that sealed the fate of a President..."

I asked. "WinGrid, what shutter speed would you use?"

A repertory grid of this active moral question is being developed for
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WinGrid 0.9.7 is available at
http://ingrid.netpedia.net/download.htm

WinGrid 0.9.5 was transitional to a new and faster file format.
Wingrid 0.9.6 had an unusual compilation problem and was
withdrawn.

The program will still read older formats but will only write
with the newer format so keep backups if comparing versions.
This new format puts an end to certain editing features of the
old format. The primary means of data entry is now through the
program and not a text editor. An editor can still be used and
most of the fields are recognizable and changeable but the tab
delimiters aren't apparent and can easily be over typed
rendering the file useless.

This new format brings together nine tables into the one
rectangular grid and allows for non numeric data. There are
basic controls to Sort and Replace and/or Merge this data. You
can also hold off committing this non converted data for
analysis while you go about transforming it.

It has also been confirmed that playing MP3 music while WinGrid
uses the doevents setting causes the "plotit" routine to display
items in time with the music. Using this setting and the
"speech" setting together will send all items to the clipboard
as they are plotted.

The following example, which prepares for a study of "open
source licenses", combines the above settings with the other
WinGrid Multi-Dimensional Sort parameters to produce an
audio-visual interpretation.

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~income/wingrid/licenses.html

This version incorporates a new RoundTripHTML routine but it
does so by making use of a JPEG utility from Intel which does a
poor job. Fortunately, you can still save the latest prepared
image by pasting it into a dedicated image program.

In preparation for the upcoming Version 1.0 release, this
software is now available under the new user-friendly "WinGrid
Free Public License".

http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid_html/wingrid_free_public_license.htm

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From WinGrid 0.9.5 when both "speech" and "doevents" are checked any plot text is immediately put onto the clipboard.  However, because the speech is  sent asynchronously the system needs to be slowed considerably before the subject matter can be understood. A way to dramatically slow the output of plot items is to put this WinGrid screen into the background by say clicking on another application and playing an animation. Click here to see an audio video example.

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~income/wingrid/licenses.html

Warning: - As of WinGrid 0.9.5 it has been discovered that while "Doevents" is checked all other controls are active and if actioned will probably crash the system. Uncheck it or Reset the plot before anything else.

It has taken me a long time to understand the terminological
"Tower of Babel" that separates the relationship between WinGrid
and Neural Networks.

Neural Nets: Dr K Gurney
http://www.shef.ac.uk/psychology/gurney/notes/contents.html

The above site is the clearest explanation that I have come
across to date. It may also be that my background knowledge was
sufficient to polish my understanding.

Because WinGrid constructs repertory grids using rows and
columns with more emphasis placed on the positioning of the
column (element) entities I couldn't see the need for the hidden
layers that neural net literature refers to.

That was until yesterday. Yesterday I was constructing a grid to
handle some planning for my daughter and had just got to the
stage of setting up a new grid with ten rows and ten columns
with all the fields set as question marks to handle the unknown
average values. Naturally, even after I had entered the list of
elements the grid couldn't calculate because it had no
variation. So, I entered a single row of data and inadvertently
extracted the eigenvalues. To my surprise three components
appeared. I was expecting to have to enter at least another row
before I could analyze the grid and I would have eventually
reduced the number of rows and columns to display just the
entered data.

In reality, the reciprocal averaging routine in WinGrid spread
out my single row of data so that the blank rows assumed the
role of the hidden values within a classic neural net.

Gurney writes:

"Suppose that we add units to the net. It may now be possible to
augment the original training vectors to include components on
the new units so that center value conflicts are removed and
fragmentation reduced. Thus, in the 3-node net, adding a hidden
node (labelled 4, say) which takes on different values for each
of the conflict-producing vectors, will allow the two
(augmented) vectors (0010) and (0001) to be learnt (the values
of node 4 are in italics). These units are properly regarded as
hidden since we are not interested in their vector  components
per se and may not impose these from outside; rather, the net
should `discover' them for itself. In terms of state-space,
hidden units are being used to prevent overlap of centres of
attraction and helping make each basin of attraction as large as
possible. "

http://www.shef.ac.uk/psychology/gurney/notes/l9/subsubsection3_3_1_1.html

WinGrid 0.9.2 is available for download via either of the
following URLs: -

http://ingrid.netpedia.net/download.htm

http://www.egroups.com/docvault/ingridoo/readme.htm
             (ingridoo members only)

--------------------------------------------------------------------

A full chronology of help file development is now automatically
appended to the download instructions.

The program now runs much faster and is probably at the limit of
what VB5 can handle. To go any faster the reciprocal averaging
routines would need to be rewritten to use matrix algebra
activeX components or the Section 4 routine would have to be
written in assembler. Advice would be appreciated on how to do
either.

Use the search engine for the word "reciprocal" to find out what
I'm talking about. The search engine now includes all of the
source code but can't display non-html files directly so for
these files you have to click on the alternate link.

Here's an unexpected by product of being able to freeze the
position of layered items and I thought you should see this
sooner rather than later.

In the attached image you can see that some layered items have
longer positional lines than others. This is because the
positions of the layered items was fixed for a previous version
of the data prior to me deciding that implementing the "Save
Sorted Command" intrinsically needed a higher score on the "Must
Be Programmed" scale than I had previously given it.

In other words the lines are the result of a dynamic change in
the data.

WinGrid 0.9.2 is due out shortly and there is a change to the
way data is stored in that the text file is completely tab
delimited. The program still maintains backward compatibility
for older input text files but has started to implement a
forward incompatibility check that instructs you when to
upgrade.

In WinGrid 0.9.1 some work was done on changing variant data
types to double precision floating point numbers. This doubled
the speed of the program. WinGrid 0.9.2 completes this task and
now uses constants and long integers and the program now seems
to be running another 7 times faster. In other words a grid that
took many hours to process back in February now takes 11
minutes. In WinGrid 0.9.1 this same grid took 75 minutes to
process its PCA routine.

WinGrid 0.9.0 is now available at
http://ingrid.netpedia.net/download.htm

I haven't been able to get the MAPI and Access Database
components operational beyond a basic connection, hence the zero
alpha/beta suffix. But there were too many other convenience
changes to ignore putting off this release.

The main change has been an internal renaming of all the basic
controls throughout the source code and is a step that makes
following the code a little easier. The analysis section 4 now
provides an original handling of Slater's inter-element
distances.

While I yet have no specific application to develop that would
benefit from a tight database and mail coupling, as in futures
trading, I am keen on developing a link-rot detection/correction
schema into the database structure.

It is safe to say that since the VB5 development components
encircled the old Ingrid code the kernel has become robust
enough for a 1.0 release. Nonetheless, outside the basic core
there is a layer of loose ends looking for applications to
connect into.

Please help yourselves by suggesting on ingrid@egroups.com
what's needed to finish WinGrid 1.0

Thanks,
j.

>As to the pasting, I believe the labels are well-written, but am not
>sure exactly how to fill in the Wingrid grey areas. This may be holding me
>up.

I think you may be referring to the first fixed row and the
first fixed column. These there as a guide only and are
presently only filled in by the program when a grid is read from
the disk. In the case of a grid being pasted from Excel these
fields aren't set. So just update and save to disk and then
reload and those "grey areas" will be filled in.

Send me a grid when you've got it working.

Good luck,
(j=jim)

Max (can I call you that?),

Your enthusiasm is catchy and I thank you for your timely communication -
always. As to the pasting, I believe the labels are well-written, but am not
sure exactly how to fill in the Wingrid grey areas. This may be holding me
up.

>Beyond that, there is much thought needed in how you go about
>preprocessing your data for the WinGrid PCA routine. Is the data
>dynamic or static, etc.

If I've understood, the data is dynamic.

, e.g. do you need to create weighted
>moving averages that will populate the grid.

I'm not sure what you mean here.

Is it linear or non
>linear? Is the data quantitative, qualitative, or indicative?
Although there is a fine line between quality and quantity data, I can
safely say the data is qualitative

Do
>you need auto-scaling?
Do you mean, for example, reversing constructs? If so, yes. Once the data is
elicited I find this is necessary.

Will you use the output as yet another
>preprocessing stage for say a neural network?
No, not yet.

Will that network
>be yet another preprocessing stage for say an expert system?
>Will it fly?
I get the picture now.


These are the sort of questions that I'm trying to
>answer. Here's a link I found yesterday that addresses some of
>these problems in a clear language.
>
>"Disturbance Detection and Isolation by Dynamic PCA"
>http://www.emsl.pnl.gov:2080/docs/incinc/proc_shifts/WKdoc.html
>
Thanks for the link and will go to it right now.
Best, Claudia

Claudia,

Re your Excel pasting troubles. Make sure that you accurately
copy from Excel the required number of rows and columns. For a
grid of data that has say 14 rows and 14 columns you need to
select 16 rows and 16 columns and you need to ensure that this
extra data which surrounds the 14x14 grid is properly filled in
with the labels and descriptions that describe the grid. Once
you've got the grid saved it becomes easy to edit.

On your fundamental problems, there are so many layers that need
to be connected before this sort of software can start to fit
into its proper place. PCP is a fairly good application because
the grids are small and homogenous and satisfaction can be
gained from even a single grid.

Beyond that, there is much thought needed in how you go about
preprocessing your data for the WinGrid PCA routine. Is the data
dynamic or static, etc., e.g. do you need to create weighted
moving averages that will populate the grid. Is it linear or non
linear? Is the data quantitative, qualitative, or indicative? Do
you need auto-scaling? Will you use the output as yet another
preprocessing stage for say a neural network? Will that network
be yet another preprocessing stage for say an expert system?
Will it fly? These are the sort of questions that I'm trying to
answer. Here's a link I found yesterday that addresses some of
these problems in a clear language.

"Disturbance Detection and Isolation by Dynamic PCA"
http://www.emsl.pnl.gov:2080/docs/incinc/proc_shifts/WKdoc.html

Remember that WinGrid is different from the tens of thousands of
other pieces of scientific code that exist in Fortran or C in
that it has a specialized PCA function and is written in VB.
Nowadays VB is as fast as C++ and seems to have a far greater
set of components to choose from. More to the point, it's the
only non-dead computer language that I know and WinGrid is my
first project in this language.

I'm fairly familiar with PCP and the repertory grid. I have been
"practicing" with grid elicitation (manually and otherwise) since March of
this year. My reading has spanned Kelly, Kenny, Bannister, and recently
whatever I can find on the web.
What is frustrating me is the mathematical side (fundamental side!) to the
story. Since I need to visualize maps in some way for my research (which is
NOT in psychology) I'm now coming up against problems related to this. I've
tried Mildred Shaw's webgrid. I think it's perfect for "first-timers". The
major drawback is that it runs on Macintosh. Enquire Within is limited in
scope and I don't personally see any need for the laddering up or down or
the differentiation it provides. Both these programs are expensive. Whereas
Shaw's program may be worth the expense, but my department doesn't even have
a Mac!

This covers my experience with grid elicitation. I hope to solve my analysis
problems someway, somehow, sometime. Unfortunately I don't have the
expertise need to develop or even understand the problems with Wingrid. I'm
still trying, but have had no luck so far pasting from Excel, because at
least then I imagine I would be able to plot something. I shall keep trying
and in the meantime jot down my "errors" which flash on the screen, smirking
at me every time (always) I do something wrong.

"A presto" as they say around here.
Claudia

Check out the hints link at Enquire Within. This is a product
that specializes in eliciting repertory grids. You should find
other stuff on this site that is useful reading. The company has
also developed an export routine to send its data to WinGrid for
additional analysis.

http://www.enquireWithin.co.nz/related.htm

Please do.  A post to the list would be greatly appreciated by this first
time user.  Thanks.

At 12:22 PM 10/6/99 +1300, you wrote:
>
>
>Claudia Monacelli wrote:
>> Are there better help files somewhere for the idiot first-user?
>> I appreciate your help.
>> Claudia
>
>For general instructions on how to go about creating a study using grids
there
>are plenty of other references on the net. Is this the sort of help you
need? If
>so, I'll send you some links.

---------------------------------
Tim McPike
tkmcpike@...
"insert obscure quotation here in
lieu of reasoned analysis"

Claudia Monacelli wrote:

> I have finally had success using Netscape and have opened the program and
> have TRIED to get somewhere and cannot for the life of me understand -
> despite the help - how to create/elicit a grid. Is wingrid only for
> analyzing the grid? If it is, can I use the data from a program like newgrid
> (R. Bell) to plot the grid in webgrid?

Yes, it assumes you have a Ph.D. in psychology and computer science (he said
jokingly,) and that you are helping in the design of a system that is only in
the alpha/beta stage of development. There is a solid core but there are also
unfinished areas that need extensive applications of thought.

If you have Office97 or similar, you can cut and paste a lot of Bell's data into
spreadsheets and from there when you get the grid correctly labeled you can use
"Paste Special" to get it into WinGrid. You will need to study my help files for
doing this. Alternatively, if you have a few grids to process I can help you out
this once. Zip them up and send them to me. I will convert them by hand and if
there is too much work I will probably write a conversion program that I will
incorporate into WinGrid.

I know it is hard for an individual to create a grid when they first get
started. It works better if you can have someone else prompting and asking the
questions.
They can make sure that when the scoring is done, it is done smoothly across the
page calling out each element to be scored. This process fixes the element names
in the mind like a wave guide and each row gets easier to complete.

That "elicitor" person shows the other how to draw the grid on a piece of paper
and to write down the elements to be studied across the top. The person then
tells the other how to elicit their concerns, factors etc. about each element,
namely to choose pairs or triads of elements at random and look for either main
differences or similarities.

The WinGrid program assumes you know how to elicit a grid and the only small
help file which covers this area is at the end of the following URL:-

  http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid_html/enter.htm



"What you should now do in order to extract the meanings underlying
any general grid (say for hobbies) is to find factors (or constructs) that
discriminate between the hobbies (or elements). When you are trying to
come up with initial terms avoid the temptation of thinking too widely.
Do this by :-


      Take a pair of hobbies at random and asking what is it
      that makes one different from the other, or

      Take three random hobbies at a time and ask what is it
      that makes one different from the other two.

      After doing the above for a few rows start looking at
      pairs of hobbies that seem to be scoring the same and
      force construct names to pop up in your mind that will pull
      the hobbies apart and use those.

      When the repertory technique starts to fail in coming up
      with new constructs, start asking yourself about other
      dimensions that are important to you that you haven't yet
      thought of, such as 'lust' etc.

      Ask others for constructs that they might use. But don't let
      anyone influence your meaning of the terms.

      When you find it hard to think of new constructs for
      normal grids you should have been able to obtain at least
      as many constructs as there are elements. Very small
      grids are useless and very large grids are too confusing.


The WinGrid system does not employ factor analysis as there are no
preconceived factors that you are trying to fit the data to. When you
analyze a grid with both elements and constructs you will understand
the plot much better. Even though in some of my examples the elements
and the constructs are the same you should know the repertory
technique before trying a straight (or fuzzy) distance grid.



Having said all that there is no reason why ranking cannot be used
instead of grading.

Experienced grid users may quickly become used to thinking in greater
dimensions and are aware of a greater convergence of signal lines that
impinge on the grading at hand. These impingement's could be
considered noise and the user compensates with a decreased
differentiation. However, the experienced user realizes that the
introduction of cognitive noise sharpens the focus. "


>
> I understand these are very basic questions but unfortunately my attempts at
> using wingrid result in the the program's closing down when I presumably do
> the wrong thing, thus losing all the work done prior to breakdown.

I stressed in the Download instructions and the Help files that you should
"save" your grid before analyzing it because of this. I also asked for errors
and the like to be reported in specific rather than vague terms.

>
>
> Are there better help files somewhere for the idiot first-user?
> I appreciate your help.
> Claudia

For general instructions on how to go about creating a study using grids there
are plenty of other references on the net. Is this the sort of help you need? If
so, I'll send you some links.

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http://ingrid.netpedia.net/download.htm

Latest WinGrid Download File

The latest version number is WinGrid 0.8.1

Click http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid_81.zip to download the single Full Install now into a folder something like C:\My Download Files. Then unzip this 6,163KB file  into a temporary folder and run Setup.exe run from the Disk1 of 6 folder.

Or, you can separately download DISK1, DISK2, DISK3, DISK4, DISK5, DISK6 and unzip them to a root, e.g. c:\ (they contain their own directory structure and require all six folders to be found together before you run Setup.exe run from the Disk1 folder.) If you are installing via these six folders over a network you must use a Mapped Network Drive. Alternatively, you can put all the files back into one folder. These folders are prepared to fit onto 1.2 MB diskettes

WinGrid requires Internet Explorer, and strongly recommends the Internet Explorer 5 "for full HTMLHelp functionality". However, if you do not have Internet Explorer to run the compiled HTMLHelp, included in the Full Install, or wish to contribute by using the HTML Workshop to recompile changes using properly date stamped Help edits, download all the normal web-based HTML equivalents wingrid_html81.zip (1,420KB). Unzip this file to the root c:\ and it will create the c:\program files\wingrid\wingrid_html folder.

DEVELOPERS

For those wishing to contribute to development, as of now the entire environment resides within the installation structure. This creates a circular development loop, i.e. you could use a VB5+ interpreter to make changes to the wingrid.vbp project as it exists within the standard c:\program files\wingrid folder.

To document your changes, it's best to use something like Netscape Composer to modify the help files in the wingrid_html folder. Then use the HTMLHelp workshop to recompile the project using the wingrid.hhp file found in the wingrid_html folder. This will produce a new wingrid.chm compiled help file ready for use by WinGrid. Do not uncompile the wingrid.chm to make your changes as this looses the date stamps which are needed for version control.

Then you could make an executable file of these changes and run the Application Setup Wizard using the wingrid.SWT template. After completely removing WinGrid from your system you could install this release from these freshly made installation files. The wingrid.SWT file needs to reference a clean wingrid.ini file (not included) and certain system files from c:\windows\system as well as files from the folder c:\program files\devstudio\vb. You will need to manually preserve a runtime wingrid.ini to this folder and change it so your distribution will load the grid you want.

For additional components, email this author. "j.Maxwell Legg" <income@...>

SECURITY

These releases are being independantly checked for viruses, thanks to Dr Stephen K Tagg University of Strathclyde in Glasgow, Scotland mailto:s.k.tagg@...

"I have today scanned the 0.80 version plus the data files
with viruscan data engine 4.025 definitions 4.0.4035."

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Getting Started?

Release Notes

The first details the upload sequences of these main download files into the main directory, i.e., http://ingrid.netpedia.net/ws_ftp.log

The second details the individual uncompiled HTMLHelp files that make up these sets of online help files, i.e., http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid/ws_ftp.log

It also pays to click home to reset your browser's menu for these newest help files, i.e.,

99.08.04 17:10 B Http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid/controls.htm

A start is being made to break up the section of help files that deal with all the controls that govern the color selections of the items.

99.08.04 17:10 B Http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid/font.htm

Here you will see details on how to introduce floating labels.

99.08.04 17:10 B Http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid/off.htm

A new magnification cursor appears when the "Off" button is checked. Its purpose is to allow zooming in and out of a particular section of the plot. Programming is not yet finished on the zoom out.

99.08.04 17:10 B Http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid/item.htm

99.08.04 17:11 B Http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid/sig.htm

99.08.09 18:05 B http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid/mono.htm

original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/ingrid/?start=92

>I've just downloaded the latest version (I think) and its great. There
are a few little problems (such as the way it saves the data - the tab
is in the wrong location). Being open source I can fix the code myself.
My question is how do we maintain some sort of version control?

----
So far I have been the only developer, welcome aboard!

User contact to date has been suggestions and bug reports with Dr.
Stephen Tagg providing a rudimentary virus free certification.  We will
have to collaborate to get the system ready for joint development and I
am open to suggestions. I looked at cvs and found it too cumbersome.
Microsoft SourceSafe was too hard to install for the net, so if you
don't mind let's just work out our own methods of version control on the
fly, as it were.

I tried releasing WinGrid 0.7.7 as a version that easily facilitated
others to participate in development whereby their VB5+ interpreter
could build the project from the install files. This didn't work and the
version was scrapped as unfortunately I found that when the HTMLHelp
files were uncompressed the date stamp associated with each file was
reset. This action prevented the implementation of my ideas for a basic
version control.

I have partly got around this problem by publishing a zip file of the
original html files.

At present the directory locations for the development isn't the same as
the user installed system and this could lead to undesirable end user
rebuild mechanics. If you like, I could re-address this problem again in
order to restructure the development system so that it used the exact
content as would exist on a user's installation.

This version control regime could be released as WinGrid 0.8.1 within a
day or so, but it will have to wait till the other 0.8.1 features are
finished. These include alternative magnification cursors and more popup
menus that allow for manual label positioning.

You will need a copy of the HTMLHelp Workshop and then download this
synchronized WinGrid file and write alterations to the help files that
reflect the desired program changes and send them to me or the group
(vault?).  Direct FTP publishing to the Netpedia site can also be
arranged.

In the meantime send details on what procedure changes you think are
needed to fix the tab settings in the save routine.

For ongoing joint development, it shouldn't be too hard to communicate
an allocation or a development freeze in the subroutine areas concerned
until the work is assimilated.

original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/ingrid/?start=92
>I've just downloaded the latest version (I think) and its great. There
are a few little problems (such as the way it saves the data - the tab
is in the wrong location). Being open source I can fix the code myself.
My question is how do we maintain some sort of version control?

Regards
Peter































>

<374b4976.f7a4855-@...> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/ingrid/?start=89
> reg.talbot@... wrote:
> >
> >  Hello folks;
> >  I have a problem.
> >  I've downloaded the three wingrid files (wingrid_72.exe, wingrid_chm72.exe
and wingrid_9972.exe), all into C:\Program Files\WinGrid\ and run them.
> >
> >  When I try to run Wingrid.exe I get the message:-
> >
> >      "Runtime error '76' Path not Found"
> >
> >  Wingrid.chm will run as will Ingrid98.exe
> >
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> I've changed http://ingrid.netpedia.net/download.htm to make clearer
> that:-
>
> You shouldn't need to be downloading all three files at the same time.
> They are for differing levels of installations. If you download the Full
> Install wingrid_72.exe then you don't need the other two as they are
> included.

I tried that first, but with the above error outcome.

> Also, you should be downloading them not into
>
>  c:\program files\wingrid
>
> but into a folder called something like
>
>  c:\my downloads
>
> and then running the self installing file from there. The self installer
> will, as needed, then set up
>
>  c:\program files\wingrid

I have now tried this, but with the same outcome.

>
> If you have already once downloaded and installed the last required
> level of Full Install then you can choose to download just the smaller
> Patch file (wingrid_9972.exe) or companion HTMLHelp file
> (wingrid_chm72.exe)
>
> It seems like you didn't run the Full Install first. I'll also try to
> make it clearer that some PCs may not need the Full Install as other
> software has put the various .DLL and .OCX files into the windows system
> directory.
>
> There is however one leftover problem that I should attend to now that I
> know better and that is to remove the restriction for PCs to be set so
> that their paths are exactly :-
>
> c:\windows
>
> and
>
> c:\program files\wingrid
>
> It's these last two naming restrictions that probably caused your error.

I guess this is the problem. My windows directory is

     C:\winnt

> Try running the Full Install and choosing the defaults.
>
> In the meantime, if c:\windows is not the case on your PC then ask me
> for a special. Also, move those downloads out of the c:\program
> files\wingrid directory and start afresh by running wingrid_72.exe


> j.
>

Thanks for the speedy reply.

Reg


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reg.talbot@... wrote:
>
>  Hello folks;
>  I have a problem.
>  I've downloaded the three wingrid files (wingrid_72.exe, wingrid_chm72.exe
and wingrid_9972.exe), all into C:\Program Files\WinGrid\ and run them.
>
>  When I try to run Wingrid.exe I get the message:-
>
>      "Runtime error '76' Path not Found"
>
>  Wingrid.chm will run as will Ingrid98.exe
>


Thanks,

I've changed http://ingrid.netpedia.net/download.htm to make clearer
that:-

You shouldn't need to be downloading all three files at the same time.
They are for differing levels of installations. If you download the Full
Install wingrid_72.exe then you don't need the other two as they are
included.

Also, you should be downloading them not into

	 c:\program files\wingrid

but into a folder called something like

	 c:\my downloads

and then running the self installing file from there. The self installer
will, as needed, then set up

	 c:\program files\wingrid

If you have already once downloaded and installed the last required
level of Full Install then you can choose to download just the smaller
Patch file (wingrid_9972.exe) or companion HTMLHelp file
(wingrid_chm72.exe)

It seems like you didn't run the Full Install first. I'll also try to
make it clearer that some PCs may not need the Full Install as other
software has put the various .DLL and .OCX files into the windows system
directory.

There is however one leftover problem that I should attend to now that I
know better and that is to remove the restriction for PCs to be set so
that their paths are exactly :-

c:\windows

and

c:\program files\wingrid

It's these last two naming restrictions that probably caused your error.
Try running the Full Install and choosing the defaults.

In the meantime, if c:\windows is not the case on your PC then ask me
for a special. Also, move those downloads out of the c:\program
files\wingrid directory and start afresh by running wingrid_72.exe

j.

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Hello folks;
I have a problem.
I've downloaded the three wingrid files (wingrid_72.exe, wingrid_chm72.exe and
wingrid_9972.exe), all into C:\Program Files\WinGrid\ and run them.

When I try to run Wingrid.exe I get the message:-

     "Runtime error '76' Path not Found"

Wingrid.chm will run as will Ingrid98.exe

Any help gratefully received.

Reg


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WinGrid 0.7.1 with full source code is now available for download
without any further subscription from: -

http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid

Note: - WinGrid 0.7.1 introduces an additional "Cell" labeling feature
into the Element Line to access an additional GraphicCell Property
provided by the PictureClip control. This "Cell" property is independent
of the other forms of image maps added to 0.7.0. The "Cell" label is
activated instead of the other forms of labeling. These special picture
clips aren't loaded until the "Cell" label is requested.

This will not only make for an even simpler method of forming the
PictureClip but may well allow the addition of detailed comparison
routines to automatically compare images to allow WinGrid to derive its
own set of constructs based upon an analysis of the intrinsic components
stored in each of these image clips.

I'm thinking of someday opening up this multi-channel input technique to
examine a series of scaled images covering differing facial expressions.
In the meantime, does anyone know where I can get a cheap (i.e., free <=
$200) USB based net to read EEG signals?

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A major bug was uncovered while adding this feature to the ingrid input
file. All that was needed to add was a couple of suffixes to the Element
Line to specify the image file and how many columns it is to be divided
into. This bug is now fixed adding a great deal of stability to the
system, but it had been there since ingrid99.0.2.1 and would destroy
existing input files if a file was resaved after adjusting its
parameters. This was caused by the numerical number of elements and
constructs on the 5th and 6th input lines becoming text values thus
dropping the space delimiter between these numbers and their names.

Of the hundreds of settings available, click below to read the
particular section of the help system that deals with this simplified
GraphicCell property and the more elaborate PictureClip control.

http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid/wingrid_test_0_7_0.htm

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Claudia Monacelli wrote:
>
>  I need help! I've tried to download Wingrid 3 times and have successfully
>  done so BUT the zipped icon will not then open up. It takes me about 15
>  minutes to download each time and I cannot understand why this zipped file
>  won't open. Are the programs faulty? I still as yet have no copy of the
>  program and would appreciate information on how/why I'm having trouble.
>

WinGrid is a 32 bit development and is meant only to be installed on
Win95/98/NT and is not yet available for other platforms. If this isn't
your problem then there is no reason that I can think of as to why the
self extracting files will not install, so please specify exactly what
messages appear. The download files are .exe files and not .zip files
although they contain a .zip file.

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I need help! I've tried to download Wingrid 3 times and have successfully
done so BUT the zipped icon will not then open up. It takes me about 15
minutes to download each time and I cannot understand why this zipped file
won't open. Are the programs faulty? I still as yet have no copy of the
program and would appreciate information on how/why I'm having trouble.
Thanks.
Claudia

At 11.01 15/05/99 +1200, you wrote:
>>  >If you haven't downloaded or got the compiled HTMLHelp files working yet
>>  >within WinGrid, I've just put exact copies of them all onto the Internet
>>  >at the following site. If not already done, you may need to register
>>  >c:\windows\hh.exe on your system to handle .chm files as I don't know
>>  >how to get the WinGrid setup program to do this.
>>
>>  What do you mean by registering on my system, e.g file association or
>>  through the registry, the latter being territory I have avoided?
>>
>
>I think it's file association. Well, it was just something I read on a
>newsgroup. I don't know about this registry thing either, but seeing as
>how this HTMLHelp system works on my PC it's hard for me to tell in what
>circumstances it wouldn't work on someone else's.
>
>Is HH.EXE working on your PC? If not then let me know and I'll try to
>find out more; - but that's a clue.
>
>btw, Bob, I've got the WinGrid program working now with a new
>PicturezClip control where you can very simply supplement the text
>labels and descriptions for elements or constructs by using small images
>as well. I don't know where this will lead in terms of using icons for
>elicitation but they certainly look good shrinking and growing while
>buzzing around the screen. Look for them in the next release (0.7.0),
>due out as soon as I've globalized it.
>
>In the attached example I used the WinGrid help file which had an image
>map to the WinGrid control panel and I also used a smoothed number count
>of word
>associations searched from throughout the rest of the HTMLHelp system to
>create the grid.
>
>To make your own examples, you'll need a separate image editor like
>Paint Shop Pro but mainly an image mapping program like MapThis or Live
>Image to create maps that are divided up into little rectangles.
>
>If you recall that the Ingrid compatible input text file contained blank
>lines that were used as separators then you'll not be surprised to learn
>that I used the first and forth blank line to now hold the plucked HTML
>reference lines as to which file and image map are tagged to the element
>and construct labels.
>
>
>cheers,
>j.
>
>http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid/controls.htm
>
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>  >If you haven't downloaded or got the compiled HTMLHelp files working yet
>  >within WinGrid, I've just put exact copies of them all onto the Internet
>  >at the following site. If not already done, you may need to register
>  >c:\windows\hh.exe on your system to handle .chm files as I don't know
>  >how to get the WinGrid setup program to do this.
>
>  What do you mean by registering on my system, e.g file association or
>  through the registry, the latter being territory I have avoided?
>

I think it's file association. Well, it was just something I read on a
newsgroup. I don't know about this registry thing either, but seeing as
how this HTMLHelp system works on my PC it's hard for me to tell in what
circumstances it wouldn't work on someone else's.

Is HH.EXE working on your PC? If not then let me know and I'll try to
find out more; - but that's a clue.

btw, Bob, I've got the WinGrid program working now with a new
PicturezClip control where you can very simply supplement the text
labels and descriptions for elements or constructs by using small images
as well. I don't know where this will lead in terms of using icons for
elicitation but they certainly look good shrinking and growing while
buzzing around the screen. Look for them in the next release (0.7.0),
due out as soon as I've globalized it.

In the attached example I used the WinGrid help file which had an image
map to the WinGrid control panel and I also used a smoothed number count
of word
associations searched from throughout the rest of the HTMLHelp system to
create the grid.

To make your own examples, you'll need a separate image editor like
Paint Shop Pro but mainly an image mapping program like MapThis or Live
Image to create maps that are divided up into little rectangles.

If you recall that the Ingrid compatible input text file contained blank
lines that were used as separators then you'll not be surprised to learn
that I used the first and forth blank line to now hold the plucked HTML
reference lines as to which file and image map are tagged to the element
and construct labels.


cheers,
j.

http://ingrid.netpedia.net/wingrid/controls.htm

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