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6174 Jason Grossman
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May 11, 2005
1:17 pm
First impression is that it's very powerful but not too complicated. Jason...
6175 Doc O'Leary
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May 11, 2005
2:14 pm
... It seem decidedly . . . un-small. To get an idea of the higher-level collection concept, I'd really prefer to see just the primitive methods....
6176 Alwin Blok
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May 11, 2005
3:49 pm
... Looks nice! I have some questions though, * I assume slice will modify the receiver and viewSlice won't ? * Any chance for the splice method? * Are the...
6177 Steve Dekorte
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May 11, 2005
4:18 pm
... yes. ... What does that do? Do you mean join()? ... last and first don't modify the receiver. I like the idea of a pop method. ... Interesting idea! The...
6178 Jason Grossman
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May 12, 2005
1:38 am
... I don't understand. Presumably this must be different from projectiles clone select(visible) foreach(redraw) or else you wouldn't be suggesting it, would...
6179 Steve Dekorte
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May 12, 2005
3:36 am
... There are 2 important differences: - it works on Strings (which are immutable) - it's more efficient than operations like "clone select" in cases where the...
6180 Jason Grossman
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May 12, 2005
5:34 am
... But I can already clone strings without any problem, and it works just the way I'd expect: Io> j := "a" ==> a Io> j ==> a Io> k := j clone ==> a Io> k =...
6181 Steve Dekorte
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May 12, 2005
6:19 am
... Yes, but you can't do mutable operations on them. With the current interface, we have the following problem: mutation methods like: removePrefix("foo") are...
6182 Rob Rix
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May 12, 2005
6:36 am
I likes it. ... ____________________ Rob Rix, himself &c....
6183 Jason Grossman
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May 12, 2005
12:50 pm
... Yes, excellent. Thanks. But I'm a bit worried about the name of the new method: you had to explain to me how cloneRemovePrefix differs from clone...
6184 Doc O'Leary
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May 12, 2005
2:10 pm
... I'm going to dissent and say no. Abstractly, immutability is a (potential) property of any given object, and one that is quite rare at that. Some...
6185 Alwin Blok
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May 12, 2005
3:50 pm
... I got used to pop, push, shift, unshift, slice, splice, from javascript (and ruby). Here's a spec for splice: ...
6186 Steve Dekorte
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May 12, 2005
4:10 pm
... Yes, we should consistently have something in the method names that: 1. distinguishes clone operations (in-place operations are the default), or 2....
6187 Doc O'Leary
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May 12, 2005
7:25 pm
... In the interest of small, 3 should be discarded immediately. ... This I agree with. ... The case against is that you get *nothing* by having the additional...
6188 Mike Austin
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May 12, 2005
7:54 pm
... I agree the 'clone&#39; seems clunky. What about making the mehtods past tense? There's already a 'capitalized&#39;, and I know that it returns a new string. ...
6189 Steve Dekorte
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May 12, 2005
8:01 pm
... Doc, It's more general than that. Consider: listOfBuffers foreach(removePrefix("foo";)) and: listOfStrings foreach(removePrefix("foo";)) and notice that the...
6190 William Tanksley, Jr
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May 12, 2005
8:33 pm
... It seems to me that this problem could be resolved by having all the methods return the modified object, and therefore having the iterators replace the...
6191 Steve Dekorte
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May 12, 2005
8:41 pm
... It's more general than that. Consider: listOfBuffers foreach(removePrefix("foo";)) and: listOfStrings foreach(removePrefix("foo";)) and notice that the...
6192 peterhull90 Send Email May 12, 2005
9:07 pm
... Actually, the opposite is true. You didn't crash the C code at all, instead it exited (I guess) via an Io exception. The back trace shows the stack from...
6193 Steve Dekorte
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May 12, 2005
9:14 pm
... Sorry for the duplicate post. -- Steve...
6194 Doc O'Leary
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May 12, 2005
9:21 pm
... OK, but I don't understand what you want those examples to *mean*. For the first, the current and "new" (as I posit) behavior seems to be as expected: the...
6195 Mike Austin
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May 12, 2005
9:31 pm
... IoDesktop Cygwin 2005-05-06 is available: http://www.mike-austin.com/io/IoDesktop-Cygwin-2005-05-06.zip Mike...
6196 Steve Dekorte
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May 12, 2005
10:48 pm
... Mike, Thanks for keeping the windows binaries up to date! -- Steve...
6197 Jason Grossman
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May 13, 2005
1:13 am
... I agree with all of those points, but the problem remains that cloneFoo looks like it does the same thing as clone foo, but it doesn't always. So I suggest...
6198 Jason Grossman
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May 13, 2005
1:13 am
Thanks. Jason...
6199 Steve Dekorte
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May 13, 2005
10:41 am
... When doesn't it? It does the same thing as clone foo would if the receiver were mutable. -- Steve...
6200 Doc O'Leary
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May 13, 2005
11:28 am
... And *that* is *my* reason for not liking it: it does the same thing. You're adding things to methods that don't add anything. Then you go and add methods...
6201 Mike Austin
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May 13, 2005
8:08 pm
No comments on this? :) ... I'm not saying it's the best approach, but something to think about. Mike...
6202 Steve Dekorte
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May 13, 2005
8:28 pm
... It's a good idea, but the rule: - add "clone" to the front of the method name seems simpler than: - somehow rearrange the words and add an "ed" -- Steve...
6203 Rob Rix
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May 13, 2005
9:48 pm
Then again, you do speak English, and verb tenses aren't really that complex when you're practised. I like the way it reads, certainly. ... ___________________...
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