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It looks like it's all over for the US - King George just signed off
today on the ability for himself, through a commission he appoints,
to grab anyone in the world off the streets and make them disappear,
subject them to tribunal without recourse or access to counsel, and
torture and put them to death. The new law allows the very things the
US prosecuted others for as war crimes after WW2. I would very much
like to hear the opinions of the information war community on this
issue and its effect on limiting dissent, its impact on controlling
the media, and any other aspect of it.

FC
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to serve --
Fred Cohen & Associates tel/fax: 925-454-0171
http://all.net/ 572 Leona Drive Livermore, CA
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:22 am

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It looks like it's all over for the US - King George just signed off today on the ability for himself, through a commission he appoints, to grab anyone in the...
Fred Cohen
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Oct 18, 2006
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Comments in dissent of the act could be construed to be acts against the interest of the United States and subject that person to the severest penalties. ... ...
Sam Liles
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Oct 18, 2006
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All opinions are my own and in no way reflect the views of my employer. ... It seems to me that publicly stating opinions on this topic could be a dangerous...
Kohlenberg, Toby
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Oct 18, 2006
6:02 am

... Then the Information War is already lost. When people believe Speaking is a Crime, then Thinking will be next, and soon we will be a nation of sheep. (or...
Gary Warner
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Oct 20, 2006
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... Gee, Fred. I have been an outspoken critic of the whole Gitmo thing, and sat down this morning planning to have a great RANT about how horrible the new law...
Gary Warner
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Oct 18, 2006
1:10 pm

All that said, I have to ask Fred, have you READ the law? Or are you ... I have read it and I think we disagree about what it says. I don't particularly hate...
Fred Cohen
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Oct 18, 2006
2:15 pm

Fred, I neglected to include something very important in my previous email. The ability to wield definitions is a powerful tool in information warfare, and I...
Gary Warner
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Oct 18, 2006
7:02 pm

Thoughts ... While there is precedent, during "real" wars, for suspension of certain liberties (suspension of Habeus Corpus during the Civil War, and...
Tony Bartoletti
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Oct 18, 2006
10:29 pm

Nobody has mentioned Orwell's 1984: "The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake...We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know...
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Oct 18, 2006
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Hello Fred, Gary and others, List Lurkers? :-) on a list for which I receive a Digest once every two weeks to two months?? (smiling) Here's what my...
Drew Schaefer
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Oct 20, 2006
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I have been on extensive travel of late, and am not acquainted with this piece of legislation. Please point me to it, or provide a copy. After reading it, I...
Ross A. Leo
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Oct 19, 2006
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The text of the "Military Commissions Act of 2006" is located at http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/MC_Act-2006.html ... with this ... After...
stephenpend
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Oct 19, 2006
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Unfortunately our laws have reached a state where it takes a lawyer to tell a layman what they mean, and a judge may still find another interpretation. I would...
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