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Hi everybody!

First of all, a story:

مردی در هنگام رانندگی، درست جلوی حياط يک تيمارستان پنچر شد و مجبورشد همانجا به تعويض لاستيک بپردازد.
هنگامی که سرگرم اين کار بود، ماشين ديگری به سرعت ازروی مهره های چرخ که در کنار ماشين بودند گذشت و
آنها را به درون جوی آب انداخت و آب مهره ها را برد.

مرد حيران مانده بود که چکار کند.

تصميم گرفت که ماشينش را همانجارها کند و برای خريد مهره چرخ برود.
در اين حين، يکی از ديوانه ها که از پشت نرده های حياط تيمارستان نظاره گر اين ماجرا بود، او را صدا زد و گفت:
از ٣ چرخ ديگر ماشين، از هر کدام يک مهره بازکن و اين لاستيک را با ٣ مهره ببند و برو تا به تعميرگاه برسی.

آن مرد اول توجهی به اين حرف نکرد ولی بعد که با خودش فکر کرد ديد راست می گويد و بهتر است همين کار را بکند.
پس به راهنمايی او عمل کرد و لاستيک زاپاس را بست.
هنگامی که خواست حرکت کند رو به آن ديوانه کرد و گفت: «خيلی فکر جالب و هوشمندانه ای داشتی.
پس چرا توی تيمارستان انداختنت؟

ديوانه لبخندی زد و گفت: من اينجام چون ديوانه ام. ولی احمق که نيستم!


یا شاید هم برعکس!!!!


Why the story? Well, here is the reason:

A friend of mine asked me my opinion about a Java framework called Shine which is apparently being advertised and pushed for use in their organization and it's claimed that it's the number 1 ranked project on sourceforge.net and soon will be bought by Apache (a non-profit open source organization with zero money)!!! These are the links he gave me:
http://www.j2sos.org/
http://java2oracle.com/amirsam.htm

So I started from the first link which talks about a project hosted on sourceforge called shine-app. So far so good. Then I checked the number 1 rank claim here and as you can see indeed this project is the number one project among all open source projects hosted on sourceforget.net! There are hundreds of thousands of projects hosted on Sourceforge and indeed being ranked number one is a "huge" accomplishment.

But. There's always a but.

As you can see from the top of the rank page, sf.net follows a rather simple algorithm for calculating the rank number. Basically the more posts to the forum, the higher the rank, the more downloads, the higher the rank, and so on. So I digged depper to find how this project managed to become number one, and it took me only 2 more clicks to find that out. These are the english forums of this project. These are the persian ones. What a huge amount of activity for a project with so little downloads (only 282 vs the number 2 project with 157,123 downloads). Something is suspicious. Let's take a look at the forum postings. This one for example, or this one. PLEASE, click on these links and take a look for yourself. As you can see they have used spamming software to post junk to the forums! First they take a few articles, then they post the whole article and every single one of the sentences of the project as replies to the project!!!! With that they end up with 32,959 posts a day and subsequently become number one on sourceforge!! And they have posted with their real sf.net user accounts. They could've used anonymous and claim they have been target of a spaming conspiracy! Robots are also used for generating loads for the pages of the project (but that's harder to prove because sf.net didn't let me see their access logs), but forum posts are quite enough for coming to the final verdict: the guys behind this project are clearly some charlatans. The whole thing is a circus. It doesn't matter the project source code is good or bad.

And who are they? We know them already from a previous thread in this group: http://java2oracle.com/amirsam.htm and if you waste a few more minutes downloading their software you can see the rest of the gang (if they know they are in a gand?!)

Sourceforge will definitely shut them down because of cheating, but I feel angry that our fellow Iranians engage in such a stupid charlatanism. Even worse: they apparently try to fool others in Iranian organizations and companies to buy their framework because it's ranked one on sourceforge! If cheating is charlatanism, then this is clearly a "crime". You be the jugde yourself....

Ara.



Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:25 am

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Hi everybody! First of all, a story: مردی در هنگام رانندگی، درست جلوی حياط يک تيمارستان پنچر شد و...
Ara Abrahamian
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Jan 20, 2009
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Shocking. I thought this guy just wanted to be somebody, no, he has big plans to make money out of it. The big question mark stands here, how many [more]...
Iman Rahmatizadeh
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Jan 20, 2009
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Dear Ara, Thank you for your valuable information. As you said, we know this guy well and there was a big discussion thread in this group about him before....
Ali Behzadian Nejad
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Jan 20, 2009
4:05 pm

Hi ali, please accept my apologies to continue the thread. but I think this is our duty to inform others who have less knowledge about this kordanism here. ...
Arash Rajaeeyan
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Jan 21, 2009
11:48 am

I do agree for not wasting the time, but I have a single point to say. I feel that a professional group (like this) is somewhat obligated to do something about...
Hamed Iravanchi
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Jan 21, 2009
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Wow!!! I really mean it: WOW! You know what will happen regarding source forge? The SF will remove that project, and he’s going to say that it’s because of...
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