Hi. My experience shows that data got by such kind of surveys hardly can be treated as something reliable unless all the participants are asked directly to...
Alexandre Iline
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Dec 3, 2002 3:55 am
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My experience shows that such small surveys aren't worth talking about, but the last option for this one caught my eye. I'd like to know what sort of GUI...
Hi, Matt. I wonder if you meant "GUI test development" below where you said "GUI development". GUI for a lot of products just tested manually - I now it's a...
Alexandre Iline
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Dec 3, 2002 4:28 pm
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... Hi .. this is my first posting to this group, so in a moment I'll introduce myself. I wanted to correct this ... Robot first appeared to the public in...
I had just heard of this "Marathon Man" tool and on the "How It Works" page it's clear it's a tool I would immediately dismiss and not use. I want to present ...
I can see from your point of view the distinction is essential, although automated testing of the native side of things is a whole different ball of wax. From...
David, If you are tasked with "validating" the java platform(i.e. testing the behavior of the core java libraries, not application code) then it is true that...
For what its worth, I helped develop a commercial GUI record/playback tool for several dialects of Smalltalk (another OO language). We found that for our...
Marathon originally started as a non-threaded app which notified listeners as you say. We ran into problems. The biggest was with recording. If you operate...
... being tested, then using Robot, the application will no longer be receiving the events that we're generating. This is not a small issue for us. This is a...
... When dealing with an AWT event queue, you can't really avoid threading, since queue operations so often use locks. ... Depends on what you record. If you...
Hi. ... currently, because we can synchronize on the AWT eventqueue, we can post an event, and then wait until exactly after the event has been processed (just...
Alexandre Iline
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Dec 4, 2002 5:23 pm
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Hey Alexandre, ... You're right, which is why we flush the event queue. In our experience this has been good enough. The one exception is windows opening and...
Okay Timothy, here goes :) ... threading, since queue operations so often use locks. I agree ... that's pretty much what we do - we plug into the event queue...
... In Pounder, I identify windows by the order of their appearance. First window is 0, second is 1, etc. This scheme doesn't depend on titles, and as far as...
... All right, that's closer. :) It's not a panacea, though. Additional events posting could be postponed due to listener activity. For example, something...
Alexandre Iline
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Dec 5, 2002 2:25 am
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... tools advantages and drawbacks. btw, this thread is good. I'm learning a lot about how other tools out there are doing things, and that's what this...
... That was one of the goals, and I'm also happy to see the discussion. Usually a given project is focused towards meeting certain internal goals and can be...
I need to test an applet. It's big with many screens. It uses the Sun Java plug-in and makes heavy use of Swing. It usually is used in Internet Explorer and...
Why do you think it won't run outside Explorer? I have been working on a similar applet and, for development, we run it in Intellij's Idea most of the time....
... Part of the team I work with tests the Java plug-in & JaWS .. We have begun using Jemmy for a lot of the testing. It's working great and the people love...
Take a look on http://jemmy.netbeans.org/applets.html. Shura....
Alexandre Iline
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Dec 6, 2002 5:40 pm
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Why do you need to test within the Java plug-in? Just make your own AppletContext for testing. By doing it you can "simulate" the browser and efectively test...
Aureliano Calvo
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Dec 6, 2002 9:40 pm
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http://abbot.sourceforge.net/FAQ.html#applets describes applet testing with Abbot, which by default uses appletviewer. The important question, though, is what...
... This is a non-obvious mapping for me, but after thinking about it for a while, I realized that for any given test, the window appearance order will always...
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> know). It destroys all windows that have appeared during playback or
> recording. All windows are killed after recording/playback by
> default also....
All right then! Here is the same for Jemmy: http://jemmy.netbeans.org/applets.html ... Shura....
Alexandre Iline
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Dec 8, 2002 5:04 pm
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Hi. I'm not sure whether I am in context of you discussion - I apologize if not. The best way to distinguish two frames with the same title is, really, an...
Alexandre Iline
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Dec 8, 2002 5:19 pm
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... Could you describe a situation where dialogs would be optional, and where other invariant behavior would be desired? I hadn't considered it before....