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The highlight of the meeting is a presentation by Blaine Mincey, an Architect at
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The subject is 'JBoss Enterprise SOA Platform v5.0'.

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"Wicket, JPA, GlassFish and Java Derby or MySQL"
http://blogs.sun.com/carolmcdonald/entry/wicket_jpa_glassfish_and_java

http://jcp.org/en/jsr/results?id=5025

     Some commentary:

http://alblue.blogspot.com/2009/12/jee-6-approved-but-licensing-issues.html


                                                          Joe Sam

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Going International?    http://www.jguru.com/faq/I18N
Que Java400?            http://www.jguru.com/faq/Java400

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http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=82641

I encourage members of the JaxJUG to join the group on LinkedIn and connect to
each other as appropriate, but please refrain from using this mailing list for
broadcasting 'join  my network' messages.

Eyal

Hello all,

Our next JaxJUG meeting will be held on Wednesday, December 9th (location and
other details will follow).

The highlight of the meeting is a presentation by a special guest - Blaine
Mincey, an Architect at JBoss (a division of Red Hat).

Presentation Outline:

How are you integrating and orchestrating your services? Is your current
solution easy to use and cost-effective? If these questions leave you scratching
your head, you need to think about what's available in the upcoming JBoss
Enterprise SOA Platform v5.0.

The JBoss Enterprise SOA Platform is a flexible, standards-based platform for
integrating business services/ events and automating business processes. It
enables business process automation by orchestrating application components and
services running on JBoss Enterprise Middleware or any other application
platform that supports key SOA standards.

In this session you'll learn how to leverage the new features and functionality
to rapidly, and cost-effectively develop, deploy and manage SOA-based solutions
that solve real problems now.

Presenter Bio

Blaine Mincey has over 13 years of experience designing and developing
enterprise systems across a variety of fields including retail, transportation,
bioinformatics, electronic commerce, and location based services. A JBoss
proponent for many years, he is a member of the Atlanta Java Users Group and the
Atlanta Chapter of the International Association of Software Architects. When
not behind a computer, he can be found running around the soccer field and
spending time with his wife and 6 month old son. Blaine holds a BA from Mercer
University, MBA from Shorter College, and is currently completing an MS in
Applied Computer Science from Kennesaw State University.

Many thanks to William Thomson, for arranging the presentation.

Eyal

you are right and always entertaining ;)

--- In jaxjug@yahoogroups.com, Tim Holloway <timh@...> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 15:04 +0000, carol wrote:
> >
> >
> > I think its easier to learn using an IDE. I have programmed with a
> > text editor and IDE, with the text editor you spend time getting the
> > imports right, syntax... Why not let the IDE help you with that and
> > the code completion helps you learn the language faster in my opinion.
>
> I'm conflicted about that one. Unfortunately, I've experienced my share
> of grief over the years trying out code samples that yanked resources in
> from a dozen unnamed packages (imports omitted in the examples to save
> space).
>
> However, somewhere not too far behind my hatred for the "All You Have to
> Do Is..." and  "Git 'R Dun!" plagues upon the profession are the all too
> common questions that start with "I'm using Eclipse/NetBeans/IntelliJ...
> and I .... how do I...???" and proceed to illustrate that they've dug
> themselves into a great big hole because the IDE did all the thinking
> for them and they actually have no clue whatsoever as to what's really
> going on.
>
> I see a lot of those on the JavaRanch, and sometimes I just have to turn
> and walk away, because otherwise I'll spontaneously combust. IDEs are a
> great blessing and a great curse. They manage my imports, keep me from
> having to maintain flawless copies of tens of thousands of APIs in my
> poor deteriorating brain, and allow me do extensively refactor projects
> without having to spend a week getting them back into compilable shape.
>
> The curse is that they exacerbate the "AYHTDI" situation by allowing
> managers to dump sophisticated projects on people whose ability to
> create "Hello, World!" is questionable, but who'll work for 15
> rupees/hour. People whose lack of understanding results in shaky
> software abominations whose poor quality drag down the reputation of the
> profession as a whole. I think I've said it before, but it's the IT
> equivalent of buying Chinese pet food from Wal-Mart.
>
> And I freely confess that I, too have ended up with pretty messed-up
> results when I tried to use tools like that without proper training in
> how to use the tool. Even when I knew the underlying technology.
>
> Which is one of the other reasons why starting off with an IDE is widely
> disparaged. You double your educational load by having to learn the IDE
> while at the same time that you're learning the language. And things
> like "press Ctrl-space to auto-complete" aren't exactly intuitively
> obvious. Especially if you've never dealt with auto-completion. I must
> have used Eclipse for 2 years before I finally wised up and started
> using Ctrl+R to get quick access to resources.
>
> I'll admit it. If a new and radically creative computer virus came along
> and made it impossible to write software with anything but an
> old-fashioned line-at-a-time editor on a Teletype, I'd regret losing the
> IDEs. But I managed to write interrupt service routines for IBM
> mainframes with nothing better. It was the core-dump debugging that was
> the real pain in the fundament.
>
> Of course, life isn't all gravy these days, either. I'll rant some other
> time on people whose projects can ONLY be compiled and built in an IDE.
> Set up exactly identical to the way THEIR computer had customized the
> IDE.
>
> So, ideally, what I'd recommend would be to use Windows Notepad and the
> command line and defer the IDE until the basics of language, runtime,
> servers and frameworks were well understood. It's just that I know how
> difficult that can be.
>
>    Tim
>

On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 15:04 +0000, carol wrote:
>
>
> I think its easier to learn using an IDE. I have programmed with a
> text editor and IDE, with the text editor you spend time getting the
> imports right, syntax... Why not let the IDE help you with that and
> the code completion helps you learn the language faster in my opinion.

I'm conflicted about that one. Unfortunately, I've experienced my share
of grief over the years trying out code samples that yanked resources in
from a dozen unnamed packages (imports omitted in the examples to save
space).

However, somewhere not too far behind my hatred for the "All You Have to
Do Is..." and  "Git 'R Dun!" plagues upon the profession are the all too
common questions that start with "I'm using Eclipse/NetBeans/IntelliJ...
and I .... how do I...???" and proceed to illustrate that they've dug
themselves into a great big hole because the IDE did all the thinking
for them and they actually have no clue whatsoever as to what's really
going on.

I see a lot of those on the JavaRanch, and sometimes I just have to turn
and walk away, because otherwise I'll spontaneously combust. IDEs are a
great blessing and a great curse. They manage my imports, keep me from
having to maintain flawless copies of tens of thousands of APIs in my
poor deteriorating brain, and allow me do extensively refactor projects
without having to spend a week getting them back into compilable shape.

The curse is that they exacerbate the "AYHTDI" situation by allowing
managers to dump sophisticated projects on people whose ability to
create "Hello, World!" is questionable, but who'll work for 15
rupees/hour. People whose lack of understanding results in shaky
software abominations whose poor quality drag down the reputation of the
profession as a whole. I think I've said it before, but it's the IT
equivalent of buying Chinese pet food from Wal-Mart.

And I freely confess that I, too have ended up with pretty messed-up
results when I tried to use tools like that without proper training in
how to use the tool. Even when I knew the underlying technology.

Which is one of the other reasons why starting off with an IDE is widely
disparaged. You double your educational load by having to learn the IDE
while at the same time that you're learning the language. And things
like "press Ctrl-space to auto-complete" aren't exactly intuitively
obvious. Especially if you've never dealt with auto-completion. I must
have used Eclipse for 2 years before I finally wised up and started
using Ctrl+R to get quick access to resources.

I'll admit it. If a new and radically creative computer virus came along
and made it impossible to write software with anything but an
old-fashioned line-at-a-time editor on a Teletype, I'd regret losing the
IDEs. But I managed to write interrupt service routines for IBM
mainframes with nothing better. It was the core-dump debugging that was
the real pain in the fundament.

Of course, life isn't all gravy these days, either. I'll rant some other
time on people whose projects can ONLY be compiled and built in an IDE.
Set up exactly identical to the way THEIR computer had customized the
IDE.

So, ideally, what I'd recommend would be to use Windows Notepad and the
command line and defer the IDE until the basics of language, runtime,
servers and frameworks were well understood. It's just that I know how
difficult that can be.

    Tim

I think its easier to learn using an IDE. I have programmed with a text editor
and IDE, with the text editor you spend time getting the imports right,
syntax...  Why not let the IDE help you with that and the code completion helps
you learn the language faster in my opinion.

another good learning resource is

http://www.javapassion.com/

These courses are free to take for anyone who wants to enhance their knowledge
and programming skill on Java technologies.  For registration and other course
related information, please go to the course web sites below.  The usage of the
course contents are free to use for non-profit organizations, which include
schools, colleges, JUG's, and so on.  (Please drop me an email if you do use the
contents.)  For actual starting date and duration of the course, please go to
the course websites.

    1. Java Programming (with Passion!) - The 8th session started on July 11th,
2009
    2. Java EE Programming Basics (with Passion!) - The 16th session starts from
Sep. 1st, 2009
    3. Java EE Programming Advanced (with Passion!) - The 1st session starts from
Oct. 9th, 2009
    4. Ajax and Web 2.0 Programming (with Passion!) - The 5th session starts from
Sep. 7th, 2009
    5. Web Services Programming (with Passion!) - The 6th session started on July
15th, 2009
    6. SOA Programming (with Passion!) - Postponed indefinitely (changed from
Nov. 1st, 2009)
    7. Java FX Programming (with Passion!) - The 2nd session starts from Aug.
25th, 2009
    8. Ruby/JRuby/Rails Application Development (with Passion!) - The 2nd session
started March 31st, the 3rd session starts Oct. 31st, 2009
    9. Groovy and GRails Application Development (with Passion!) - work in
progress - The 1st session will start form Jan. 10th, 2010
   10. Identity Manager (with Passion!)
   11. Performance, Debugging, Testing, Monitoring, and Management (with
Passion!) - work in progress
   12. Advanced Java Progamming (with Passion!) - JDK 6, JDK 7 - work in progress
   13. GlassFish Programming and Development (with Passion!) - work in progress
   14. Scala Programming (with Passion!) - work in progress
   15. Social Networking (Facebook) Application Development (with Passion!) -
work in progress
   16. Java ME Mobility Programming (with Passion!) - work in progress


--- In jaxjug@yahoogroups.com, Jason Whaley <jasonwhaley@...> wrote:
>
> I am assuming you are starting from very little to no java experience.  My
> recommended order of reading/doing would be:
>
> 1) First cup - http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/
> (basically the Hello World tutorial)
> 2) Sun Tutorials - http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/   (Start in the
> "Trails Covering the Basics Section", move to others depending on interest)
> 3) Try to write some programs - trivial is fine
>
> My biggest piece of advice is to *not* use an IDE at first.  Basically, try
> and make it through the tutorials using only the JDK tools manually and a
> text editor with some syntax highlighting - learn the basics before using an
> IDE to make some of the basics easier/hidden.  Then go learn to do all of
> this with an IDE when you want enhanced productivity.  Stray away from the
> JDK distributions that have Netbeans prebundled (or install it and ignore it
> completely at first).
>
> After that, the next steps depend on what kind of programming you want to
> do... HTTP/Web Development,  Swing development for GUIs, etc. and then find
> a non trivial program to start or work on.
>
> If you want to reach out to the community for help/advice here are some
> places to check out:
>
> 1) Here!  The volume of Q&A stuff on here isn't great, but when there is a
> question, most often someone jumps on it during the same day
> 2) IRC -  I frequent irc://chat.freenode.net/##java .  There are various
> other channels on irc that are for java related technologies.  There is also
> a (very small) subset of JaxJug folks hanging out at irc://
> chat.freenode.net/#jaxjug .
> 3) Sun Forums - http://forums.sun.com/index.jspa
> 4) Stack Overflow - http://stackoverflow.com/
>
> And some reading/rss feeds pay attention to:
>
> 1)  Javalobby:  http://java.dzone.com/
> 2)  Dzone - http://www.dzone.com/links/index.html
> 3)  The Server Side - http://www.theserverside.com/
>
> Or at least those are the three I pay attention to most in java land to stay
> up to date.
>
> --Whaley
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:49 AM, ladyphnx <jaxcitytech@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello, all,
> >
> > I joined the mailing list about a month ago because I want to get back into
> > programming, job wise. I haven't had a programming job for a number of
> > years, so I feel as though I'm starting over at ground zero.
> >
> > I'm looking for suggestions on how I can get myself up to a reasonable
> > level of competence in Java. What would you recommend? I'm open to any
> > ideas, from self-taught methods to paid training and/or certification/degree
> > paths.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Melinda
> >
> >
> >
>

Hello, all,

I joined the mailing list about a month ago because I want to get back into
programming, job wise.  I haven't had a programming job for a number of years,
so I feel as though I'm starting over at ground zero.

I'm looking for suggestions on how I can get myself up to a reasonable level of
competence in Java.  What would you recommend?  I'm open to any ideas, from
self-taught methods to paid training and/or certification/degree paths.

Thanks in advance,

Melinda

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Yesterday I gave a talk at a the Jacksonville JUG about Java garbage collection,
monitoring and tuning, which included a demo of Finding Memory Leaks Using the
NetBeans Profiler and a demo of the  VisualGC plugin for  VisualVM

http://blogs.sun.com/carolmcdonald/entry/java_garbage_collection_monitoring_and

On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 16:53 -0500, Jason Whaley wrote:
>
> Eyal + William + Folks at Taleo + Anyone else who helps organize the
> meetings,
>
> Would it be possible to get more of a heads up on what dates are set
> for JUG meetings.  I'm often on-call or committed for work on certain
> nights and I'm not really able to negotiate switching those out on
> short notice.  I had thought previously we were doing the first
> Wednesday of each month, so I left last Wednesday wide open.  I'm
> committed for some things tonight so I can't attend.

It's been the second Wednesday of the month for the year I believe. I
got the Jax LUG weeks mixed up a month or so back. There was some oddity
one month with like the 1st being a Wednesday or something like that. So
what seemed like the first, was really the second.

> If we do lightning talks again for December. I'll be happy to present
> on something then.  Potential topics I wouldn't mind presenting on
> would be

Not sure what extra time there will be in December. Actually have a
presenter arranged ahead of time. Didn't want to release details there
to distract from tonight's/this month's meeting. Also needed to discuss
it a bit with Eyal and maybe announce it at this meeting.



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The Jacksonville Java User Group will meet today at 6:00pm.

• Understanding Actor Concurrency: Actors in Erlang, Scala, Groovy and Java
  
  

• Tuning Garbage Collection Performance and Finding Memory Leaks
  
  

• Context Oriented Programming (COP): from flying cars to ContextJ

–        Pizza and soft drinks, courtesy of Availity LLC

–        Networking with other Java developers

–        An opportunity to win a free JavaRebel License

The Jacksonville Java User Group will meet tomorrow, Wednesday (November 11), at 6:00pm.

• Understanding Actor Concurrency: Actors in Erlang and Scala, and how to implement them in Java
  
  

• Tuning Garbage Collection Performance and Finding Memory Leaks
  
  

• Context Oriented Programming (COP): from Jody Foster to ContextJ

–        Pizza and soft drinks, courtesy of William L. Thomson / Obsidian-Studios

–        Networking with other Java developers

–        An opportunity to win a free JavaRebel License

The November JaxJUG meeting will be held this Wednesday.

The meeting will consist of 'Lightning Talks', i.e. 2-3 short presentations in
relevant topics (something along the lines of the 'Scala Primer' presentation
given by Chris Lewis a few meetings ago).

If any of you is interested in making a 'Lightning Talk' for the meeting, please
contact me as soon as possible. It can be about something you have done or
encountered recently, and should not require much preparation.

Regards,
Eyal

http://blog.polyglotprogramming.com/2009/11/6/cultivateyourcareertoday

User Groups: If you live near a major metropolitan area, it's easy to get
involved in the local user groups that are there. Most user groups meet once a
month, so they don't consume too many evenings when your family expects you to
be home. Don't be a passive participant; get involved. Talk about what you've
been learning in your spare time. Help organize the group. Get to know the other
people in the group.

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