Hello Friends,
I am Vikas Naidu, purely working for the development of open source
and spreading it in Jabalpur. Please keep this away from your mind
that one banner has been suffixed with me. The motto of this group is
to spreading the LINUX (Open Source) acceptance in the Jabalpur as
well as the surrounding areas of Mahakoushal as well. If we stick to
Jabalpur only our motto is not going to fulfill. So my suggestation is
plz think for the forward also. I am working for the surrounding areas
also like Katni, Satna, Sagar, Rewa, Shahdol etc. and would looking
forward for happening of these events at these places also. Any kind
of support from me is accepted without any commercial or business
interest. I am the only person who is permanently sitting at jabalpur
so that I feel proud if I can help at any way for this community.

Regards

Vikas Naidu
Jabalpur
+919425152831

Hello Friends,
I am Vikas Naidu, purely working for the development of open source
and spreading it in Jabalpur. Please keep this away from your mind
that one banner has been suffixed with me. The motto of this group is
to spreading the LINUX (Open Source) acceptance in the Jabalpur as
well as the surrounding areas of Mahakoushal as well. If we stick to
Jabalpur only our motto is not going to fulfill. So my suggestation is
plz think for the forward also. I am working for the surrounding areas
also like Katni, Satna, Sagar, Rewa, Shahdol etc. and would looking
forward for happening of these events at these places also. Any kind
of support from me is accepted without any commercial or business
interest. I am the only person who is permanently sitting at jabalpur
so that I feel proud if I can help at any way for this community.

Regards

Vikas Naidu
Jabalpur
+919425152831

--- In jbp-lug@yahoogroups.com, "neependra_khare" <nkhare@...> wrote:
>
> Excellent !!!!!
> I have no issues with this venue.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Neependra
>
> --- In jbp-lug@yahoogroups.com, "Girish Shukla" <girish.shukla@> wrote:
> >
> > Takshila Engg. College near Shakti Nagar/Ratan Nagar has agreed to
> provide
> > the venue if it is acceptable. It is the only engg. college within
city
> > limits so accessibility should not be a problem. Kindly confirm so the
> > formalities maybe completed. Also, the exams are going in 1st half
> so 2nd
> > half will be free and available.
> > -girish
> >
>

Excellent !!!!!
I have no issues with this venue.

Thanks a lot.

Neependra

--- In jbp-lug@yahoogroups.com, "Girish Shukla" <girish.shukla@...> wrote:
>
> Takshila Engg. College near Shakti Nagar/Ratan Nagar has agreed to
provide
> the venue if it is acceptable. It is the only engg. college within city
> limits so accessibility should not be a problem. Kindly confirm so the
> formalities maybe completed. Also, the exams are going in 1st half
so 2nd
> half will be free and available.
> -girish
>

Takshila Engg. College near Shakti Nagar/Ratan Nagar has agreed to provide
the venue if it is acceptable. It is the only engg. college within city
limits so accessibility should not be a problem. Kindly confirm so the
formalities maybe completed. Also, the exams are going in 1st half so 2nd
half will be free and available.
-girish

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Ravi Shanker <srinivasons_ravi@...>
wrote:

> Thanks for your encouraging reply Neependra. Although I may not be
> able to attend the LUG meets, I wish this LUG the very best.
>
> Members at jabalpur please do the needful ASAP as the date proposed by
> Neependra is not far. Also all colleges would be in the middle of
> exams i believe. Some kind of permanent place would be required for
> the meets even if they happen once in 2 months.
>
> Best Wishes
> Ravi Shanker
>
> --- In jbp-lug@yahoogroups.com, "neependra_khare" <nkhare@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > > I hope all new entrants would agree with me.Since most of the users
> > > will be coming from a red hat or fedora background i can understand
> > > the inclination towards it ..
> >
> > Yes,most of the users are coming from a Red Hat or Fedora background
> > but LUG is not bound to a particular distribution.Its a platform where
> > people can talk about open source in general, share their knowledge,
> > have install fests etc.
> >
> > I apologize if I passed the wrong message earlier.
> >
> > > But that is never the end of the road and in GNU/Linux and the open
> > > source initiative there is abundant scope of diversity which stands
> > > for the freedom of its community, developers and users included. With
> > > someone like Pushpendra who is into Free BSD or me who started with
> > > Red Hat once upon a time but now moved on to Debian for all my
> > > personal needs. Although I work on commercial UNIX for my living. I
> > > retain the right to use my preferred OS at home :).
> >
> > Yes, every one uses different distribution according to their
> > convenience/needs.Currently I am using Fedora and I just wanted to
> > share the the things which we can do with it.
> >
> > > In the best interests of the LUG suggest we have a neutral venue for
> > > the meet possibly a place of learning such as an engineering college
> > > or something similar.
> >
> > No problem.
> > Having a LUG meet at engineering college will be much more fruitful.
> > Girish mentioned me about the Institution of Engineers, Opp. RTO.
> > http://www.ieindia.org/comm/jaba.htm.
> >
> > I have few earlier experiences in convincing engineering college etc.
> > for such an events, which were not good.
> >
> > I thought maximum of us are out of Jabalpur, so it will difficult to
> > arrange for the venue.If someone is willing to take the responsibility
> > for the alternate venue then that will be helpful.
> >
> > > Neependra it would be better if the posts make a consensus before
> > any unilateral declaration on the mailing list because we do not want
> > this  LUG to go down.
> >
> > I'll keep this thing in mind.
> >
> > > I hope this would be taken care of in all coming endeavors.
> > sure.
> >
> > Any comments and suggestions are welcome.
> >
> > Neependra
>


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Thanks for your encouraging reply Neependra. Although I may not be
able to attend the LUG meets, I wish this LUG the very best.

Members at jabalpur please do the needful ASAP as the date proposed by
Neependra is not far. Also all colleges would be in the middle of
exams i believe. Some kind of permanent place would be required for
the meets even if they happen once in 2 months.

Best Wishes
Ravi Shanker

--- In jbp-lug@yahoogroups.com, "neependra_khare" <nkhare@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> > I hope all new entrants would agree with me.Since most of the users
> > will be coming from a red hat or fedora background i can understand
> > the inclination towards it ..
>
> Yes,most of the users are coming from a Red Hat or Fedora background
> but LUG is not bound to a particular distribution.Its a platform where
> people can talk about open source in general, share their knowledge,
> have install fests etc.
>
> I apologize if I passed the wrong message earlier.
>
> > But that is never the end of the road and in GNU/Linux and the open
> > source initiative there is abundant scope of diversity which stands
> > for the freedom of its community, developers and users included. With
> > someone like Pushpendra who is into Free BSD or me who started with
> > Red Hat once upon a time but now moved on to Debian for all my
> > personal needs. Although I work on commercial UNIX for my living. I
> > retain the right to use my preferred OS at home :).
>
> Yes, every one uses different distribution according to their
> convenience/needs.Currently I am using Fedora and I just wanted to
> share the the things which we can do with it.
>
> > In the best interests of the LUG suggest we have a neutral venue for
> > the meet possibly a place of learning such as an engineering college
> > or something similar.
>
> No problem.
> Having a LUG meet at engineering college will be much more fruitful.
> Girish mentioned me about the Institution of Engineers, Opp. RTO.
> http://www.ieindia.org/comm/jaba.htm.
>
> I have few earlier experiences in convincing engineering college etc.
> for such an events, which were not good.
>
> I thought maximum of us are out of Jabalpur, so it will difficult to
> arrange for the venue.If someone is willing to take the responsibility
> for the alternate venue then that will be helpful.
>
> > Neependra it would be better if the posts make a consensus before
> any unilateral declaration on the mailing list because we do not want
> this  LUG to go down.
>
> I'll keep this thing in mind.
>
> > I hope this would be taken care of in all coming endeavors.
> sure.
>
> Any comments and suggestions are welcome.
>
> Neependra
>

Hello,

> I hope all new entrants would agree with me.Since most of the users
> will be coming from a red hat or fedora background i can understand
> the inclination towards it ..

Yes,most of the users are coming from a Red Hat or Fedora background
but LUG is not bound to a particular distribution.Its a platform where
people can talk about open source in general, share their knowledge,
have install fests etc.

I apologize if I passed the wrong message earlier.

> But that is never the end of the road and in GNU/Linux and the open
> source initiative there is abundant scope of diversity which stands
> for the freedom of its community, developers and users included. With
> someone like Pushpendra who is into Free BSD or me who started with
> Red Hat once upon a time but now moved on to Debian for all my
> personal needs. Although I work on commercial UNIX for my living. I
> retain the right to use my preferred OS at home :).

Yes, every one uses different distribution according to their
convenience/needs.Currently I am using Fedora and I just wanted to
share the the things which we can do with it.

> In the best interests of the LUG suggest we have a neutral venue for
> the meet possibly a place of learning such as an engineering college
> or something similar.

No problem.
Having a LUG meet at engineering college will be much more fruitful.
Girish mentioned me about the Institution of Engineers, Opp. RTO.
http://www.ieindia.org/comm/jaba.htm.

I have few earlier experiences in convincing engineering college etc.
for such an events, which were not good.

I thought maximum of us are out of Jabalpur, so it will difficult to
arrange for the venue.If someone is willing to take the responsibility
for the alternate venue then that will be helpful.

> Neependra it would be better if the posts make a consensus before
any unilateral declaration on the mailing list because we do not want
this  LUG to go down.

I'll keep this thing in mind.

> I hope this would be taken care of in all coming endeavors.
sure.

Any comments and suggestions are welcome.

Neependra

This can be a good reference for the same:

http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Advocacy.html

Regards,
Girish

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Ravi Shanker <srinivasons_ravi@...>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Its good to see that this LUG is awakening slowly. I hope the momentum
> would continue as things progress.
>
> Please refer my previous posts on this group.This is the right time to
> bring a philosophy and broad guidelines for this group to flourish in
> the community way and not be tied to any commercial or monopolistic
> interests the M$ way.
>
> This meet as it is happening after a long long time is all the more
> significant as the purpose of this LUG is to be fully understood by
> one and all so as to meaningfully use it for all community based
> activities.
>
> I hope all new entrants would agree with me.Since most of the users
> will be coming from a red hat or fedora background i can understand
> the inclination towards it ..
>
> But that is never the end of the road and in GNU/Linux and the open
> source initiative there is abundant scope of diversity which stands
> for the freedom of its community, developers and users included. With
> someone like Pushpendra who is into Free BSD or me who started with
> Red Hat once upon a time but now moved on to Debian for all my
> personal needs. Although I work on commercial UNIX for my living. I
> retain the right to use my preferred OS at home :).
>
> In the best interests of the LUG suggest we have a neutral venue for
> the meet possibly a place of learning such as an engineering college
> or something similar.
>
> Neependra it would be better if the posts make a consensus before any
> unilateral declaration on the mailing list because we do not want this
> LUG to go down.
>
> I hope this would be taken care of in all coming endeavors.
>
> Best Wishes
> Ravi Shanker
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
>


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Hi,

Its good to see that this LUG is awakening slowly. I hope the momentum
would continue as things progress.

Please refer my previous posts on this group.This is the right time to
bring a philosophy and broad guidelines for this group to flourish in
the community way and not be tied to any commercial or monopolistic
interests the M$ way.

This meet as it is happening after a long long time is all the more
significant as the purpose of this LUG is to be fully understood by
one and all so as to meaningfully use it for all community based
activities.

I hope all new entrants would agree with me.Since most of the users
will be coming from a red hat or fedora background i can understand
the inclination towards it ..

But that is never the end of the road and in GNU/Linux and the open
source initiative there is abundant scope of diversity which stands
for the freedom of its community, developers and users included. With
someone like Pushpendra who is into Free BSD or me who started with
Red Hat once upon a time but now moved on to Debian for all my
personal needs. Although I work on commercial UNIX for my living. I
retain the right to use my preferred OS at home :).

In the best interests of the LUG suggest we have a neutral venue for
the meet possibly a place of learning such as an engineering college
or something similar.

Neependra it would be better if the posts make a consensus before any
unilateral declaration on the mailing list because we do not want this
LUG to go down.

I hope this would be taken care of in all coming endeavors.

Best Wishes
Ravi Shanker

Hello All,

Mr. Vikas Naidu has offered his place for the event.
He is a Red Hat training partner and playing an important role in
Jabalpur to spread Linux awareness.

He is also willing to host regular LUG events.

His institute is in middle of the city, which will be accessible to all.

The address:-
Professional Group of Education
302, Satna Building, Malviya Chowk
Above Air Tel Office
Jabalpur - M.P. 482002
Ph. :+91-761-4039376

Many thanks to Mr. Vikas Naidu.

Regards,
Neependra
http://techieneeps.blogspot.com/

Hello All,

This might be my first mail in this group...don't ask me where I have
been till now..:)

Let me first introduce my self. My name is Neependra Khare and I did
my engineering from Khalsa engineering college,JBP in 2004. Currently
I am working with Red Hat in their Pune office.

I have always been in touch with Mr. Girish Shukla.He is great person.
He is the one who introduced me to the world of "Open Source" in my
college days.I will always be thankful to him.

From the previous threads I see members of the Jabalpur LUG are
putting their best efforts to revive the group.
I would like to thank Pushpendra  and Ravi for this.

I would like to share my four years of industry experience with you
all, when I will be there.
I also did my engineering from Jabalpur few years back and I know the
student community out there.
Maximum of them even don't know why they are doing things, which they
are doing now.

We can not blame the students for this as they follow their
predecessors.Also the environment around them plays an important role.
Things are changing and students are becoming more and more aware but
the count of those students is very less.
I believe local LUG can accelerate this.

I also think that Fedora can be the platform on which we can count on.
http://fedoraproject.org/
It is built by people across the globe who work together as a
community and as being in Red Hat in know how much hard work goes
behind the scene.

I would like to invite you all for the LUG meet in Jabalpur on 17th
June. Please have look at following for more info:-
http://apnajabalpur.com/fedora/

The venue is not decided yet as we need to make arrangements according
to the registered participants.
Make sure you register for the event.

Also let others know about the event so that we can get maximum out it.

I will be bringing some fedora goodies which we can distribute to the
participants.

Any comments and suggestions are welcome.

Cheers,
Neependra Khare
nkhare@...
http://techieneeps.blogspot.com/

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Hello all,
  Firstly, a formal meeting announcement:
   Event:        ILUG-Delhi meeting
   Date:         Fri., May 9th
   Time:         6.30pm
   Agenda:       o Brainstorming for working with NIXI. Please
                   see details below.
   Participants: All on this list.
   Venue:        BB/3G, DDA flats, Munirka.
   Contact:      Me (9868527992)

  We had an interesting meeting today with some people from
NIXI, the National Internet Exchange of India, which is now
set up as a not-for-profit company. Briefly, NIXI wishes to
play the role of a bridge between industry, government, and
the FOSS community, and has certain advantages over normal
government agencies when it comes to funding projects in this
area.

  Here are some ideas mooted from their side. Please note
that these are open to people from anywhere in India, and
they would like to see country-wide participation:
1. Preparing for roll-out of internationalised top-level
   domain names, i.e., web URLs entirely in Indian languages.
   ICANN should be approving this in some 6 months time, so
   NIXI wants people to participate in an experimental setup
   on a private (to India) network which can go public on the
   Internet on ICANN approval. This work would include the
   preparation of a write-up on potential issues involving
   canonical representations for Unicode names, phishing and
   other security loopholes, etc. Sarai might be hosting an
   informal seminar to introduce this topic, in a week or
   two.
2. ipv6 roll-out: NIXI would like to have a parallel ipv6
   network in 1-2 months time. They have already done training
   and awareness sessions for ipv6 routing, but largely using
   proprietary tools. They would like community folk to hold
   training sessions for (a) MCA-level students, and
   (b) technical folk in small/medium enterprises, universities,
   or other institutions.
3. Software for, and management of .in domain name registry:
   Currently, they use proprietary software, and databases,
   and would like to switch to open-source alternatives.
4. Community participation in the Internet Governance Forum
   (IGF) meeting to be held in Hyderabad from 3-6 Dec., 2008:
   http://www.intgovforum.org/ NIXI wants the community to be
   there, as this is supposed to be a meeting for public
   comment, and I think that it is important that we take
   part. In particular, names are being solicited for
   be part of the advisory group, and the deadline for that
   is May 21st. For more on the IGF, please see
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Governance_Forum
5. Of particular interest to IndLinux is that NIXI is willing
   to (a) fund localisation work carried out by distributed
   community groups in the country, (b) fund projects aimed
   at polishing open-source Indian language tools, and deploying
   them, e.g., making sure that OpenOffice, and Mozilla
   Indian language packs get built, and distributed, and
   (c) provide bandwidth, and hosting to such open-source
   projects.
6. Deployment of Indian language, and other open-source
   software developed in India, and/or targeted at an Indian
   population. Their examples were Hindawi, Dhvani, etc.
   The goal here would be to (a) put together software that
   demonstrates the use, and (b) convince people using
   proprietary alternatives to switch.
7. Survey of sites in the .in domain: Someone to carry out
   a study of .in sites (which are currently some 4.5 lakh
   in number), categorise them, and give awards to the best
   sites in various categories, e.g., best Hindi/Indian
   language blogging site, best open-source site, etc.
8. Rework syllabi at elementary, and middle school levels
   to replace references to proprietary applications with
   generic teaching, and/or references to open-source
   alternatives.
9. Bring your own ideas: NIXI is also very interested in
   hearing about your ideas for possible open-source
   projects. Please feel free to contact us at Sarai,
   or to directly get in touch with Mr. Rajesh Aggarwal,
   IAS, Additional CEO, NIXI, or Mr. Ajay Tripathi,
   Technical Officer, NIXI. (Their email addresses are
   in the list of recipients.)

Regards,
Gora


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Girish Shukla <girish.shukla@...> wrote:
Hi,

  On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Ravi Shanker <srinivasons_ravi@...>
  wrote:

  > I think Prashant has a good idea. Are there any creative artisitic
  > folks here ?

  Ravi, all the guys in the list are now no longer staying in Jabalpur, except
  I guess, Pushpendra and 1 more guy. So, there is a need to involve more
  people here.

  > Probably somebody can design a good logo for Jabalpur
  > Linux Users Group on GIMP and maybe members can upload it here and
  > then we can have a poll on it.Logo need not be a Penguin.But how do we
  > maintain the logo under GPL ??
  >

  We can have it under Creative Commons instead?

  Since GIMP is available for FreeBSD also, Pushpendra can join in ... :-)
  >
  Maybe Pushpendra can join in more actively given his interest and
  enthusiasm. :-)

  >
  > Should we not have a reasonable philosophy and goals for the existence
  > of this group and help redefine its future course ? A Users meet every
  > 2 months should be good point to restart with as of now.

  > All comments welcome.
  >
  I had shared some of these inputs published in LFY last year, and I re-share
  them here:

  1.It is observed that LUG is mostly confined to students and mentors
  discussing basic things about Linux Installation, the ideas of FOSS,etc. and
  the loop sticks till the students pass out for jobs or mentors stop being
  active. There should be a system wherein, the members continue their
  participation, even once they are no longer students and give back their bit
  to the community and help create innovators and not just Linux Users.

  2.The revival measures have a set of issues. e.g. as prashant had suggested
  before, of merging the two groups, however, there was no response as there
  is nobody left around to respond, so what do we merge? There are 2 LUGs in
  Indore, the older one having senior professionals and is very low activity,
  like ours, the other being new and confined to students re-inventing the
  wheel with loads of messages. There is a need to remove this gap of
  continuity as senior members prefer to discuss "the issues relating to
  OpenXML standards" while youngsters prefer something like "figuring out how
  to configure".

  3. I suggest to have the website of LUG developed, starting with LOGO and
  other stuff. If any required support like Linux Hosting, etc. is required, I
  am willing to arrange the same, however, I will appreciate if other members
  coordinate with the development and get it into shape.

  4. Also, to re-start with, *I request all existing members to re-introduce
  themselves please* mentioning their present areas of expertise and how they
  can participate. For e.g. someone with expertise in SysAdmin can volunteer
  to post about latest trends on SysAdmin.

  5. Another idea is to put up posters/notices in colleges which I used to do
  when I was there.

  Its good to see the group getting back to life and these are my 2pence to
  the same.

  Regards,
  Girish

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Bravo....


Great..

Your ideas are perfect and bang on target.

Regards
Ravi Shanker
--- Thakur Pushpendra Singh <thakurpsr@...>
wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> I got the words, and i am on it nowwards. Currently
> i have over 100 students from various engineering
> and other technical collages. I can start some
> campus activities but any suggestion, what kind of
> activities we should start? I mean some thing really
> new, not all that old stuff like telling them linux
> is the safest thing... we must give our audience
> something what they really need but dont know its
> there.
>
> What people do on there PC these days is
> Internet surfing
> Play MP3
> Watch Movies
> make presentations and word documents for their
> collage activities.
> And yes last but not the least gaming.
>
> Can we do all these things on linux, better then
> Windows?
>
> Well linux can be a good thing for developers like
> me (coz its a bit easy then my FreeBSD) but not
> everyone uses their machine for software and web
> development. For most of them its just a gaming
> stuff.
>
> May be such people are not our target audience but
> we must have something for everyone.
>
>
>  So what are we planning to introduce? The only
> suggestion I have for it is, it should not be very
> fancy (or technical in other words) it should be
> something everyone can understand and something they
> can enjoy.
>
>
>  I hope you wont mind my language. :)
>
>
>  Regards
>
>
>  Pushpendra
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi all,

I got the words, and i am on it nowwards. Currently i have over 100 students
from various engineering and other technical collages. I can start some campus
activities but any suggestion, what kind of activities we should start? I mean
some thing really new, not all that old stuff like telling them linux is the
safest thing... we must give our audience something what they really need but
dont know its there.

What people do on there PC these days is
Internet surfing
Play MP3
Watch Movies
make presentations and word documents for their collage activities.
And yes last but not the least gaming.

Can we do all these things on linux, better then Windows?

Well linux can be a good thing for developers like me (coz its a bit easy then
my FreeBSD) but not everyone uses their machine for software and web
development. For most of them its just a gaming stuff.

May be such people are not our target audience but we must have something for
everyone.


  So what are we planning to introduce? The only suggestion I have for it is, it
should not be very fancy (or technical in other words) it should be something
everyone can understand and something they can enjoy.


  I hope you wont mind my language. :)


  Regards


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Hi,

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Ravi Shanker <srinivasons_ravi@...>
wrote:

> I think Prashant has a good idea. Are there any creative artisitic
> folks here ?

Ravi, all the guys in the list are now no longer staying in Jabalpur,
except
I guess, Pushpendra and 1 more guy. So, there is a need to involve more
people here.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
**Thats the reason i believe there is less involvement in it. We
**should create a community where new members can take charge as old
**faces move out and the community keeps evolving rather than dying.

**For this we can make a common binding guideline for this group to
**grow and evolve and maintain it outside the current yahoo group if
**that is feasible.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
> Probably somebody can design a good logo for Jabalpur
> Linux Users Group on GIMP and maybe members can upload it here and
> then we can have a poll on it.Logo need not be a Penguin.But how do we
> maintain the logo under GPL ??
>

We can have it under Creative Commons instead?

Since GIMP is available for FreeBSD also, Pushpendra can join in ... :-)
>
Maybe Pushpendra can join in more actively given his interest and
enthusiasm. :-)
>
> Should we not have a reasonable philosophy and goals for the existence
> of this group and help redefine its future course ? A Users meet every
> 2 months should be good point to restart with as of now.


> All comments welcome.
>
I had shared some of these inputs published in LFY last year, and I
re-share
them here:

1.It is observed that LUG is mostly confined to students and mentors
discussing basic things about Linux Installation, the ideas of
FOSS,etc. and
the loop sticks till the students pass out for jobs or mentors stop being
active. There should be a system wherein, the members continue their
participation, even once they are no longer students and give back
their bit
to the community and help create innovators and not just Linux Users.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
**The innovators part can only be done by programmers. Rest of the
**people may help in documentation or similar stuffs which an average
**person can do or implementing available solutions.

**I am not an innovator but I have been using Linux only on my
**personal computer since I bought my own computer 2 years back
**(Compaq Presario V2000 working with Wi-fi on Linksys WRT54G router
**on Debian 4 etch updated to latest including volatile.debian.org).
**Because I do not believe in piracy :-) .Never done a dual boot
**with windows since i bought it with free DOS. That is my way of
**giving respect to the Linux OS and community which they rightly
**deserve..
---------------------------------------------------------------------
2.The revival measures have a set of issues. e.g. as prashant had
suggested
before, of merging the two groups, however, there was no response as there
is nobody left around to respond, so what do we merge? There are 2 LUGs in
Indore, the older one having senior professionals and is very low
activity,
like ours, the other being new and confined to students re-inventing the
wheel with loads of messages. There is a need to remove this gap of
continuity as senior members prefer to discuss "the issues relating to
OpenXML standards" while youngsters prefer something like "figuring
out how
to configure".
---------------------------------------------------------------------
**Yes if we define that this group is for initial members only and the
**mature can move to relevant groups that should be fine and harms in
**no way. That is the way things work... different lists for different
**interests..
---------------------------------------------------------------------
3. I suggest to have the website of LUG developed, starting with LOGO and
other stuff. If any required support like Linux Hosting, etc. is
required, I
am willing to arrange the same, however, I will appreciate if other
members
coordinate with the development and get it into shape.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
**No harm in contributing but people at ground zero actually matter to
**keep this group alive and kicking and hence a need to re-align it
**meaningfully..
---------------------------------------------------------------------

4. Also, to re-start with, *I request all existing members to re-introduce
themselves please* mentioning their present areas of expertise and how
they
can participate. For e.g. someone with expertise in SysAdmin can volunteer
to post about latest trends on SysAdmin.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
**Good idea if we have a conference call on Skype ? Posting work
**details is not a good idea because i represent myself and not my
**company:-) I can share my experiences on Linux in enterprise or
**banking environment in general separately.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
5. Another idea is to put up posters/notices in colleges which I used
to do
when I was there.

Its good to see the group getting back to life and these are my 2pence to
the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
**Money should not be a problem now. We can definitely share it to a
**reasonable expense to bring things to life...

**Maybe we should arrange kind of Linux boot camps to keep people
**engaged.Especially people in schools colleges who are the future.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Regards,
Girish
----------------------------------------------------------------------
**Regards
**Ravi Shanker

Hi,

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Ravi Shanker <srinivasons_ravi@...>
wrote:

> I think Prashant has a good idea. Are there any creative artisitic
> folks here ?

Ravi, all the guys in the list are now no longer staying in Jabalpur, except
I guess, Pushpendra and 1 more guy. So, there is a need to involve more
people here.


> Probably somebody can design a good logo for Jabalpur
> Linux Users Group on GIMP and maybe members can upload it here and
> then we can have a poll on it.Logo need not be a Penguin.But how do we
> maintain the logo under GPL ??
>

We can have it under Creative Commons instead?

Since GIMP is available for FreeBSD also, Pushpendra can join in ... :-)
>
Maybe Pushpendra can join in more actively given his interest and
enthusiasm. :-)

>
> Should we not have a reasonable philosophy and goals for the existence
> of this group and help redefine its future course ? A Users meet every
> 2 months should be good point to restart with as of now.


> All comments welcome.
>
I had shared some of these inputs published in LFY last year, and I re-share
them here:

1.It is observed that LUG is mostly confined to students and mentors
discussing basic things about Linux Installation, the ideas of FOSS,etc. and
the loop sticks till the students pass out for jobs or mentors stop being
active. There should be a system wherein, the members continue their
participation, even once they are no longer students and give back their bit
to the community and help create innovators and not just Linux Users.

2.The revival measures have a set of issues. e.g. as prashant had suggested
before, of merging the two groups, however, there was no response as there
is nobody left around to respond, so what do we merge? There are 2 LUGs in
Indore, the older one having senior professionals and is very low activity,
like ours, the other being new and confined to students re-inventing the
wheel with loads of messages. There is a need to remove this gap of
continuity as senior members prefer to discuss "the issues relating to
OpenXML standards" while youngsters prefer something like "figuring out how
to configure".

3. I suggest to have the website of LUG developed, starting with LOGO and
other stuff. If any required support like Linux Hosting, etc. is required, I
am willing to arrange the same, however, I will appreciate if other members
coordinate with the development and get it into shape.

4. Also, to re-start with, *I request all existing members to re-introduce
themselves please* mentioning their present areas of expertise and how they
can participate. For e.g. someone with expertise in SysAdmin can volunteer
to post about latest trends on SysAdmin.

5. Another idea is to put up posters/notices in colleges which I used to do
when I was there.

Its good to see the group getting back to life and these are my 2pence to
the same.

Regards,
Girish


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Hi All,

I think Prashant has a good idea. Are there any creative artisitic
folks here ? Probably somebody can design a good logo for Jabalpur
Linux Users Group on GIMP and maybe members can upload it here and
then we can have a poll on it.Logo need not be a Penguin.But how do we
maintain the logo under GPL ??

Since GIMP is available for FreeBSD also, Pushpendra can join in ... :-)

Should we not have a reasonable philosophy and goals for the existence
of this group and help redefine its future course ? A Users meet every
2 months should be good point to restart with as of now.

All comments welcome.

Thanks & Regards
Ravi Shanker

Hi there,

My name is Pushpendra Singh Thakur. I am working in FreeBSD, Python,
PHP and Postgre. I am trying to establish a server facility in
jabalpur where we can try new technologies, ideas and can share them
with others. Currently I am working on FreeBSD only (actually its the
only operating system i know) It would be a great place to learn some
real stuff. But as i said earlier i dont have enough experience in Linux.

If this can help you guys, or any thing i can do please tell me.

Regards
Pushpendra Singh Thakur

--- In jbp-lug@yahoogroups.com, prashant k v <kvprashant@...> wrote:
>
> hi guys,
>   i am basically from bhopal , and run linux_gurus@yahoogroups.com ,
lug for bhopal.
>
>   we are also having hard time promoting lug in bhopal, fortunately
we always had 1 or 2 guys to supporting us. anant shirvastav made a
website www.linuxgurus.info and with him tushar did a good job.
inspired by them we started a web desining competetion to desing first
page for the site. you can probably start something similar. i am
coming to bhopal on 19th april and will be coming to gotegaon(shri
dham) that week. let me know if i can help you in anyway. i will try
to come to jabalpur.i can take a session on security.
>   let me know if we can plan something
>
>   Regards
>   Prashant
>
> Ravi Shanker <srinivasons_ravi@...> wrote:
>           Hi,
>
> This LUG has been dead for a long time now. Any ideas how we can
> revive this ?
>
> I believe in the years gone by many engineering colleges and technical
> institutes have come up in Jabalpur and Linux would be the OS of
> choice for the new generation.
>
> Is there no way we can delegate this LUG to new people who could
> revive it in a constructive way without duplicating resources already
> available on other mailing lists ?
>
> Thanks
> Ravi Shanker
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of
Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

hi guys,
   i am basically from bhopal , and run linux_gurus@yahoogroups.com , lug for
bhopal.

   we are also having hard time promoting lug in bhopal, fortunately we always
had 1 or 2 guys to supporting us. anant shirvastav made a website
www.linuxgurus.info and with him tushar did a good job. inspired by them we
started a web desining competetion to desing first page for the site. you can
probably start something similar. i am coming to bhopal on 19th april and will
be coming to gotegaon(shri dham) that week. let me know if i can help you in
anyway. i will try to come to jabalpur.i can take a session on security.
   let me know if we can plan something

   Regards
   Prashant

Ravi Shanker <srinivasons_ravi@...> wrote:
           Hi,

This LUG has been dead for a long time now. Any ideas how we can
revive this ?

I believe in the years gone by many engineering colleges and technical
institutes have come up in Jabalpur and Linux would be the OS of
choice for the new generation.

Is there no way we can delegate this LUG to new people who could
revive it in a constructive way without duplicating resources already
available on other mailing lists ?

Thanks
Ravi Shanker






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Hi,

This LUG has been dead for a long time now. Any ideas how we can
revive this ?

I believe in the years gone by many engineering colleges and technical
institutes have come up in Jabalpur and Linux would be the OS of
choice for the new generation.

Is there no way we can delegate this LUG to new people who could
revive it in a constructive way without duplicating resources already
available on other mailing lists ?

Thanks
Ravi Shanker

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On 8/25/07, Rakesh Kumar <rakeshk_yadav@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.hi5.com/register/OFHY5?inviteId=A_8e13c87_lwkThH02aCj148978823
>
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Hi Girish,
   i am moderator for linux_gurus(lug for bhopal) can we club the two groups
together, probably
it can give both the groups better platform, without loosing there own identity.
   just a suggestion please dont mind.

   Regards
   Prashant

girish s <girish.shukla@...> wrote:

How is everybody doing? No msgs frm any1 since a while.

Luv,
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Luv,
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