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#30 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:13 am
Subject: Re: shell script to start jdepend under cygwin!
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Ralf Hauser wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Below a start script for cygwin users - maybe you want to put this on your
> website or include it into the distribution.
>

Thanks, Ralf!

Mike

#29 From: "Ralf Hauser" <ralfhauser@...>
Date: Wed Jun 11, 2003 1:29 pm
Subject: shell script to start jdepend under cygwin!
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Mike,

Below a start script for cygwin users - maybe you want to put this on your
website or include it into the distribution.

Regards

	 Ralf

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#!/bin/sh
# $Id: jdepend,v 1.5 2003/06/11 12:10:59 ralf Exp $
echo see http://www.clarkware.com/software/JDepend.html#howtouse
export JDEPEND_HOME=$AJARS_U/jdepend-2.6/
CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$JDEPEND_HOME/lib/jdepend.jar
export CLASSPATH=`cygpath -pw $CLASSPATH`
case "$1" in
   gui) shift;
	 java jdepend.swingui.JDepend $@

echo alternatively, you may want to use
http://www.clarkware.com/software/JDepend.html#ant;
               ;;
   text) shift;
	 java jdepend.textui.JDepend $@
               ;;
   xml) shift;
	 java jdepend.xmlui.JDepend $@
               ;;
   *) echo print some help and version info!
      echo if your output is empty, you might have used it on *.java instead
      echo of *.class files!
               ;;
esac

#28 From: "roman_dolgov" <roman_dolgov@...>
Date: Thu May 22, 2003 4:53 am
Subject: Re: JDepend extension
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I have uploaded the file to file folder of this group.

thanks
Roman

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> --- In jdepend@yahoogroups.com, Roman Dolgov <roman_dolgov@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > I have uploaded zip to
> > ftp://sergey:speznaz@f...
> >
> > filename: JDepend-2.6GraphUI.zip
> > I hope it will work.
> >
> Can you write the complete ftp-url please.
> Or try to upload the file into the 'file'-folder of this group.
>
> MfG Mirko

#27 From: "mzeibig" <mzeibig@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2003 8:23 am
Subject: Re: JDepend extension
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--- In jdepend@yahoogroups.com, Roman Dolgov <roman_dolgov@y...> wrote:
>
> I have uploaded zip to
> ftp://sergey:speznaz@f...
>
> filename: JDepend-2.6GraphUI.zip
> I hope it will work.
>
Can you write the complete ftp-url please.
Or try to upload the file into the 'file'-folder of this group.

MfG Mirko

#26 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Mon May 5, 2003 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Ant]JDepend Newbie
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Lopez, William wrote:

>Hello:
>
>I have defined an Ant task to use JDepend as follows:
>
><target name="synchWebDirs">
>
>    <jdepend outputfile="${build.base}/jdepend_web.xml" fork="yes"
>format="xml">
>      <sourcespath>
>         <pathelement location="${web.build.dir}/Servlet"/>
>      </sourcespath>
>      <classpath>
>        <pathelement location="${env.ANT_HOME}/lib/jdepend.jar"/>
>      </classpath>
>    </jdepend>
>
>  </target>
>
>
>The Servlet project/directory contains multiple packages:
>-com.xxx.servlet
>-com.xxx.servletAdapter
>-com.xxx.xml
>-com.xxx.xmlUpdate
>
>These packages are listed under the "Package" column (after xslt'd) in the
>"Summary" Section but under the "Packages" section under the corresponding
>package not all of the classes from those packages are listed. What am I not
>doing correctly to make all the class files visible to JDepend.
>
>

Could you perhaps send the results file and give examples of which
packages aren't appearing?

One potential gotcha is that <sourcespath> should be pointing to a
directory containing class files, not source files.  That element should
be renamed to <classespath>, and will if I ever get ahold of the source
and synched up with the Ant distribution schedule.

Regards,

Mike

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#25 From: Roman Dolgov <roman_dolgov@...>
Date: Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: JDepend extension
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Silly me, didn't read fineprint on yahoo site -
"public sharing only available for premium members" -
and looks like I am not.

I have uploaded zip to
ftp://sergey:speznaz@ftp.ednaliu.com

filename: JDepend-2.6GraphUI.zip
I hope it will work.

thanks
Roman

--- Mike Clark <mike@...> wrote:
> roman_dolgov@... wrote:
>
> >Hi All,
> >
> >I've added module to JDepend which draws plot of
> package D scores and
> >highlights packages with problems like cyclic or
> distance (D') to big. I
> >have found it useful if you need fast identify
> problem packages and seeing
> >whole picture with you package structure without
> going into too much of
> >details. I putted code into the :
> >http://briefcase.yahoo.com/roman_dolgov  - folder
> "code.
> >
>
> Sounds interesting, Roman.  Unfortunately, the
> "code" folder seems to be
> empty, though it says there are 2 items in the
> folder.  Perhaps I'm
> missing something.
>
> Mike
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#24 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Tue Apr 22, 2003 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: JDepend extension
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roman_dolgov@... wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I've added module to JDepend which draws plot of package D scores and
>highlights packages with problems like cyclic or distance (D') to big. I
>have found it useful if you need fast identify problem packages and seeing
>whole picture with you package structure without going into too much of
>details. I putted code into the :
>http://briefcase.yahoo.com/roman_dolgov  - folder "code.
>

Sounds interesting, Roman.  Unfortunately, the "code" folder seems to be
empty, though it says there are 2 items in the folder.  Perhaps I'm
missing something.

Mike

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#23 From: <roman_dolgov@...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 3:52 am
Subject: JDepend extension
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Hi All,

I've added module to JDepend which draws plot of package D scores and
highlights packages with problems like cyclic or distance (D') to big. I
have found it useful if you need fast identify problem packages and seeing
whole picture with you package structure without going into too much of
details. I putted code into the :
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/roman_dolgov  - folder "code.
See NEW.txt for info how to run.
Feel free to use it if you need it.

thanks
Roman

#22 From: <roman_dolgov@...>
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 8:32 am
Subject: small JDepend addon
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Hi Guys
 
Recently I was asked to provide list of all methods my application depends on and I couldn't find any free tool on iternet to do it.
So I decided to use JDepend and add some small module which provide such kind of list. I am not sure if its really usefull but
If anybody needs to do the same stuff here is jar with code
 
regards
Roman

#21 From: Xue-Feng Yang <just4look@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 2:53 am
Subject: Re: a question for updating to 2.6
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Yeah, you are right. It works now.

Thank you very much,

Xue-Feng


  --- Mike Clark <mike@...> wrote: > Xue-Feng
Yang wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I used jdepend 2.3 before. It worked perfect with
> my
> >ant build. When I updated to 2.6, the output xml
> file
> >only contains
> >
> ><?xml version="1.0"?>
> ><JDepend>
> >    <Packages>
> >
> >    </Package>
> ></JDepend>
> >
> >What is the problem?
> >
> >
>
> As of version 2.6, JDepend only analyzes class
> files.  I'm guessing
> you're attempting to analyze a directory containing
> source files.
>
> Mike
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#20 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 1:38 am
Subject: Re: a question for updating to 2.6
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Xue-Feng Yang wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I used jdepend 2.3 before. It worked perfect with my
>ant build. When I updated to 2.6, the output xml file
>only contains
>
><?xml version="1.0"?>
><JDepend>
>    <Packages>
>
>    </Package>
></JDepend>
>
>What is the problem?
>
>

As of version 2.6, JDepend only analyzes class files.  I'm guessing
you're attempting to analyze a directory containing source files.

Mike

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#19 From: Xue-Feng Yang <just4look@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 1:35 am
Subject: a question for updating to 2.6
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Hi,

I used jdepend 2.3 before. It worked perfect with my
ant build. When I updated to 2.6, the output xml file
only contains

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<JDepend>
     <Packages>

     </Package>
</JDepend>

What is the problem?

Thanks.


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#18 From: "Scott Stirling" <scottstirling@...>
Date: Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:30 am
Subject: RE: JDepend 2.6
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Nice one, Mike!  Excellent new feature.  Thank you.

Scott Stirling

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Clark [mailto:mike@...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:41 AM
> To: jdepend@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [jdepend] JDepend 2.6
>
>
> JDepend 2.6 analyzes classes found in .jar, .war, and .zip files.
>
>     http://www.clarkware.com/software/jdepend-2.6.zip
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Mike

#17 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Thu Feb 20, 2003 3:40 pm
Subject: JDepend 2.6
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JDepend 2.6 analyzes classes found in .jar, .war, and .zip files.

     http://www.clarkware.com/software/jdepend-2.6.zip

Enjoy!

Mike

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#16 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Mon Feb 17, 2003 3:01 pm
Subject: JDepend 2.5
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JDepend 2.5 is now available at...

     http://www.clarkware.com/software/JDepend.html


New features include:

- Added setFilter() method to all JDepend class variants to support new
JDepend Ant task which includes an element for excluding packages.
Thanks to Bob Hays for updating the Ant task!

- Added JavaClass.getSourceFile() method which returns the name of the
source file from which the analyzed class file was generated. The name
of the source file is only printed in the XML UI for use by external
tools (e.g. Maven). Source files must be compiled with debug information
(e.g. -g or -g:source), otherwise "Unknown" is returned. Thanks to Ben
Walding for contributing this code!

- Source-file analysis is no longer an option.

-  Inner classes are now analyzed by default. To disable analyzing inner
classes, set the 'analyzeInnerClasses' property to 'false' in the
jdepend.properties file.


Enjoy!

Mike

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#15 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Wed Feb 5, 2003 11:57 pm
Subject: JDepend 2.4
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Hi All,

I'm slowly starting to chip away at a queue of new features.  Whenever I have a few significant changes, I'll drop a new version.  This time around, I added one new feature and deprecated one old "feature":
- Based on the results of the poll, source-file analysis is now deprecated.  If JDepend runs across a .java file during analysis, you'll see a deprecation warning printed to standard error.  It only happens the first time a source file is noticed during any particular run.  Please start pointing JDepend at directories containing class files to ensure the best results.  In the next version, source-file analysis won't be an option.
- The new feature is a request Bob Martin made a while back.  Sometimes you have packages that are not subject to change, such as java.lang, that you'd like always to fall directly on the main sequence.  Now you can preset a volatility (V) value on a package-by-package basis, either programmatically or using the jdepend.properties file.  More info on this feature is available at <http://www.clarkware.com/software/JDepend.html#customize>.
The latest version containing these changes is available at:
  
    http://www.clarkware.com/software/JDepend.html

In the next version, I hope to take a closer look at cycle detection and make the DependencyConstraint a bit more usable.  And now that class-file analysis is destined to be the only way, supporting jar and zip files is also something I'm planning to get in real soon now.  Also, the folks at Maven submitted an excellent request (along with source code!) to report the source file name corresponding to the class file.  That would allow you to cross-reference the classes (and inner classes) back to their source file.

Enjoy!

Mike
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#14 From: jdepend@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu Feb 6, 2003 12:01 am
Subject: Poll results for jdepend
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The following jdepend poll is now closed.  Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: JDepend currently supports both source
file and class file analysis. Depending
on the contents of the directories
analyzed, it transparently uses the
appropriate type of analyzer.

The class file analyzer wasn't developed
until version 2.0.  In general, it is
much more accurate as it isn't affected
by source file formatting styles. There
are documented limitations to source
file analysis that frequently get filed
as bug reports.  In response, I'm
considering removing support for source
file analysis to avoid confusion and
always ensure the most accurate
reporting.  Your feedback is appreciated.

Which of the following approaches would
you prefer?


CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Show a deprecation warning for source-file analysis in the next version, then
remove it from the following version, 6 votes, 60.00%
- Remove source-file analysis completely from the next version (I don't use it),
3 votes, 30.00%
- Do nothing; leave source-file analysis intact, 1 votes, 10.00%



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#13 From: "kheleb42 <kheleb42@...>" <kheleb42@...>
Date: Tue Feb 4, 2003 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: Running package Dependency tests through JUnit
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--- In jdepend@yahoogroups.com, Mike Clark <mike@c...> wrote:
Hi Mike,

Thank you for the quick response. Now I see where I was going wrong.
I had another look and there are other packages that are being
analyzed that have dependencies with my bridges.cma.util package.
These other packages were not part of my my constraint and this
appears to be why the dependency match was failing.

I am going to give it another go here. Once again thank you for your
help.

Cody

#12 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Mon Feb 3, 2003 11:32 pm
Subject: Re: Running package Dependency tests through JUnit
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Hi Cody,
Both tests should pass because bridges.cma.view package uses the bridges.cma.util package but the reverse is not true. In both cases the the dependencyMatch returns false when it should only return false for testDependencyConstraint2().

I'll admit that I'm not happy with the way the DependencyConstraint class turned out, but I'm not sure this is a bug.  

The DependencyConstraint.dependencyMatch() will only return true if:

    - The number of packages analyzed by JDepend equals the number of packages added to the DependencyConstraint

and

    - Every class in the DependencyConstraint must have a dependency graph equal to an analyzed package of the same name

In other words, the graph of packages in the DependencyConstraint must exactly match - in size and content - the graph of packages collected when jdepend.analyze() is invoked.  That is, if you analyze the entire project, then all the packages must be specified in the constraint.  You can of course narrow the analysis to only two projects, but you must specify all of their dependencies in the constraint.  It's not ideal, I realize.

So, I'm guessing that your 'bridges.cma.util' and 'bridges.cma.view' packages actually have other dependencies, other than on themselves.  Looking at a report would help figure this out.  If this is the case, then dependencyMatch() will always return false given your example DependencyConstraint.

I'm investigating other ways to design the DependencyConstraint class.  Ideally, if it fails you'd like to see a expected/actual graph of some form rather than just a boolean return value.  I'm open to opinions as to how this could be made better.  It's something I'd like to clean up in the next release.

Let me know if this makes any sense and whether it helps solve the mystery of your situation.

Thanks,

Mike
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#11 From: "kheleb42 <kheleb42@...>" <kheleb42@...>
Date: Mon Feb 3, 2003 10:57 pm
Subject: Running package Dependency tests through JUnit
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Hi,

I am trying to run automated JUnit tests from ant to check package
dependencies. The tests I am trying to right are very similar to
the 'Dependency Constraint' test in the documentation. My test case
contains the following two tests,

public void testDependencyConstraint1()
{
   //Step 1. Create new DependencyConstraint
   DependencyConstraint constraint = new DependencyConstraint();

   //Step 2. Add packages to the DependencyConstraint
   JavaPackage CmaUtil = constraint.addPackage("bridges.cma.util");
   JavaPackage CmaView = constraint.addPackage
("bridges.cma.view");

   //Step 3. Set package Dependencies
   CmaView.dependsUpon( CmaUtil );

   //Step 4. Analyze
   m_jdepend.analyze();

   //Step 5. Perform assertions
   //        This should be true because bridges.cma.view package does
   //        use the bridges.cma.util package.
   assertEquals( "Dependency mismatch", true,
                 m_jdepend.dependencyMatch( constraint ) );
}

public void testDependencyConstraint2()
{
   //Step 1. Create new DependencyConstraint
   DependencyConstraint constraint = new DependencyConstraint();

   //Step 2. Add packages to the DependencyConstraint
   JavaPackage CmaUtil  = constraint.addPackage( "bridges.cma.util" );
   JavaPackage CmaView = constraint.addPackage
("bridges.cma.view");

   //Step 3. Set package Dependencies
   CmaUtil.dependsUpon( CmaView );

   //Step 4. Analyze
   m_jdepend.analyze();

   //Step 5. Perform assertions
   //        This should be false because bridges.cma.util package does
   //        not use the bridges.cma.view package.
   assertEquals( "Dependency mismatch",false,
                 m_jdepend.dependencyMatch( constraint ) );
}

I initialise the m_jdepend in the setUp() method to parse my source
code,
      m_jdepend.addDirectory( "./build/src/java" );

Both tests should pass because bridges.cma.view package uses the
bridges.cma.util package but the reverse is not true. In both cases
the the dependencyMatch returns false when it should only return
false for testDependencyConstraint2().

I have double checked the packages that are parsed after the analyze
() method( I iterated through the collection of packages and dumped
the package names) and the packages in my constraint are being
analyzed. Have I missed something or is this a bug? The example
looked fairly simple and I believe this should work

Thank You

Cody

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Date: Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:11 pm
Subject: New poll for jdepend
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Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
jdepend group:

JDepend currently supports both source
file and class file analysis. Depending
on the contents of the directories
analyzed, it transparently uses the
appropriate type of analyzer.

The class file analyzer wasn't developed
until version 2.0.  In general, it is
much more accurate as it isn't affected
by source file formatting styles. There
are documented limitations to source
file analysis that frequently get filed
as bug reports.  In response, I'm
considering removing support for source
file analysis to avoid confusion and
always ensure the most accurate
reporting.  Your feedback is appreciated.

Which of the following approaches would
you prefer?


   o Do nothing; leave source-file analysis intact
   o Show a deprecation warning for source-file analysis in the next version,
then remove it from the following version
   o Remove source-file analysis completely from the next version (I don't use
it)


To vote, please visit the following web page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jdepend/surveys?id=11029367

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

#9 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Fri Jan 3, 2003 10:32 pm
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] JDepend 2.3
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JDepend 2.3 is now available with some minor bug fixes and enhancements:

     http://www.clarkware.com/software/JDepend.html#release

Enjoy!

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#8 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Thu Dec 12, 2002 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: small bug
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mzeibig wrote:
With the latest version of JDepend the following class results in the
errror 'Unable to identify class name in source file: xyz.java'
public class xyz implements abc { // ()
...

I'll look into fixing this in the next release if feasible.

A work-around is to analyze the class files, rather than the source files.  Class file analysis is generally more accurate, and I highly recommend that route.  Instead of pointing JDepend at source files, simply point it at the class file directory. There are various combinations of source file formatting that may confuse JDepend.  The byte codes never lie.  :-)

Thanks for the heads-up!

Mike
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#7 From: "mzeibig <mzeibig@...>" <mzeibig@...>
Date: Thu Dec 12, 2002 12:21 pm
Subject: small bug
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With the latest version of JDepend the following class results in the
errror 'Unable to identify class name in source file: xyz.java'

public class xyz implements abc { // ()
   ...

MfG Mirko

#6 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: Detecting weak references
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jpstroweis wrote:

>JDepend lists as efferent packages those packages
>whose classes are strongly referred by the classes
>of the package.
>
>Does it detect also weak references such as between a
>class and the implementations of an interface referred
>by the class? True it may be difficult to list the
>dynamically loaded classes via Class.forName .
>
>

If the class specifically references an implementation, then it's
detected.  If only the interface is referenced, then it does not detect
any implementations.

>If no, I think it'd be a nice enhancement to detect and
>list the additional weak references in a separate list,
>without affecting the computation of Instability,
>of course.
>
>

How might that help you?

Mike

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#5 From: "jpstroweis" <jpstroweis@...>
Date: Tue Oct 29, 2002 7:01 am
Subject: Detecting weak references
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Hello,

JDepend lists as efferent packages those packages
whose classes are strongly referred by the classes
of the package.

Does it detect also weak references such as between a
class and the implementations of an interface referred
by the class? True it may be difficult to list the
dynamically loaded classes via Class.forName .

If no, I think it'd be a nice enhancement to detect and
list the additional weak references in a separate list,
without affecting the computation of Instability,
of course.

Regards,
Jean-Pierre Stroweis <jpstroweis@...>

#4 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: jdepend.xsl?
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prioritytim wrote:

>In the documentation for JDepend, I see a reference to jdepend.xsl in:
>
><style basedir="docs" destdir="docs"
>        includes="jdepend-report.xml" style="jdepend.xsl" />
>
Hi Tim,

The jdepend.xsl file is distributed with Ant 1.5 in the 'etc' directory.

I've refreshed the documentation to fully qualify the reference as:

     <style basedir="docs" destdir="docs"
         includes="jdepend-report.xml"
         style="${ant.home}/etc/jdepend.xsl" />


Mike

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#3 From: "prioritytim" <tim@...>
Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 3:55 pm
Subject: jdepend.xsl?
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In the documentation for JDepend, I see a reference to jdepend.xsl in:

<style basedir="docs" destdir="docs"
         includes="jdepend-report.xml" style="jdepend.xsl" />


I can't find the xsl file anywhere.  Is this available? Can you send
me a copy?



Thanks,
Tim Bornholtz

#2 From: Mike Clark <mike@...>
Date: Tue Jul 16, 2002 2:13 pm
Subject: Order-Independent Import Tests
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Hi all,

I just received a note from a German user indicating that the
ClassFileParserTest was failing in his environment.  It seems that
version of the compiler generates byte codes that return the imports in
a different order than expected.  Not the wrong order, just a different
order.  :-)

So I've refreshed the jdepend2.2.zip distribution to include a change to
use order-independent import tests.  It's a better way all around, but
until receiving this feedback I'd never heard of the test failing.

You can grab the latest version at:

     http://www.clarkware.com/software/jdepend2.2.zip

Let me know if you have ideas for making JDepend better!

Mike

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Mike Clark
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Date: Thu Apr 4, 2002 6:03 pm
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