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Re: DAML question (was: Error when using rdfquery Mod ule)   Message List  
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RE: [jena-dev] DAML question (was: Error when using rdfquery Mod ule)

Dan,

It's a rather more practical matter: RDQL only returns
Resource/Property/Literal objects - not the higher-level DAML objects that
the DAML sub-system of Jena has that get via the DAML API. Also, it does
not currently (to be changed) have access to the implications of the DAML
inference even though these manifest themselves as virtual triples.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Brickley [mailto:daniel.brickley@...]
Sent: 27 April 2002 22:35
To: 'jena-dev@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [jena-dev] DAML question (was: Error when using rdfquery
Mod ule)


On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Seaborne, Andy wrote:

> N.B. RDQL querys RDF as data - you would not get DAML inference as a
result
> of an RDQL query.

This phrase has always puzzled me! RDF just is a data format for making
propositional claims about the world. So all RDF query is about querying
data, in that sense. This is true even if RDF is used to ask questions of
'smart' servers. I think I know what you mean: RDQL, Squish, Algae, RDFdb
etc provide query languages for RDF that don't have any rule-oriented,
inference-oriented features in the language. So maybe it's not that the
RDF is being queried 'as data' vs 'as knowledge', 'as a KB' etc. Just that
the query protocol is very simple, it doesn't allow one to talk about
inferences, rules etc.

Dan



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Sun Apr 28, 2002 6:35 pm

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Hi there, Hopefully, a expert on DAML can help you, which is why I've changed the subject line. This isn't to do with RDQL - I get the errors and warnings from...
Seaborne, Andy
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Apr 27, 2002
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... This phrase has always puzzled me! RDF just is a data format for making propositional claims about the world. So all RDF query is about querying data, in...
Dan Brickley
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Apr 27, 2002
9:34 pm

... The descriptions "query as raw RDF data" or "query as RDFS" or (...) work for me. I think it's not that the query language needs to change, but the ...
Graham Klyne
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Apr 29, 2002
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... Which is why it strikes me as odd to say that RDQL is for querying as data. I use Squish to query against 'RDF as data plus some triples implied by...
Dan Brickley
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Apr 29, 2002
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Dan, It's a rather more practical matter: RDQL only returns Resource/Property/Literal objects - not the higher-level DAML objects that the DAML sub-system of...
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Apr 28, 2002
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