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Re: [jena-dev] Re: Reification

No, good point.

Thanks,

Matt
Dave Reynolds wrote:
> Matt Williams wrote:
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>> Ummm...maybe. I would interpret all of these ( ->) as being defeasible
>> inference - in which case 'says/ claims' would seem to be a reasonable
>> interpretation of the arrow (so A suggests/claims that B suggests C).
>>
>
> OK. I can see that you want to capture situations where the thing claimed
> is also defeasible - either because it's a claim about what some other
> paper claims or because it it is an inference which is only true if some
> unstated other things occur (e.g. Newtonian physics as an approximation
> only valid at low speeds).
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> It just seems to me that there may also be times when the paper is claiming
> a hard inference:
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> A claims (B -> C)
>
> and then if you find a situation in which B is true and C is false then you
> know it is A's claim that is refuted.
>
>
>> This is based on argumentation (one of the main topics of my PhD, I
>> hope). I've seen Claimaker, although I've looked more at Araucaria
>> (http://araucaria.computing.dundee.ac.uk/). The big problem (for me) is
>> that although they look lovely, there isn't a 'handle' to crank. OTOH,
>> the implemented argumentation stuff is very sparse (esp. WRT ontological
>> info.). So I'm trying to implement something that isn't as rich as
>> ClaiMaker, but has a little more going on behind the scenes.
>>
>
> Sounds good fun, hope it goes well.
>
> Dave
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Hi, When I construct a Model with the following RDF, model.listReifiedStatements() would not return to me anything for some reason. Any ideas? thanks. <?xml...
Ilker Murat Karakas
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Jul 28, 2005
8:31 am

... I copied your RDF/XML to a local file, then wrote and ran: public void testQuery() { Model m = FileManager.get().loadModel( "/home/kers/RDF/reif.rdf" ); ...
Chris Dollin
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Jul 28, 2005
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Dear All, This is a bit general, so a beg a little indulgence. I'm trying to encode rules of the form A -> (B -> C) (where A warrants the existence of the...
Matt Williams
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Jan 24, 2006
12:44 pm

... Well, I'm not sure I can speak to your rule problem, but I /can/ say that all the Jena reification stuff does is make it easy(er) to talk about RDF...
Chris Dollin
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Jan 24, 2006
1:47 pm

... It sounds like you need a language for encoding your inference rules and an associated semantics. If you want those inference rules to be expressed in RDF...
Dave Reynolds
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Jan 24, 2006
3:17 pm

Dear Dave, A -> (B -> C) means that once A is true, if B is true, then C is. In other words, A _warrants_ the inference step between B & C. You're right that...
Matt Williams
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Jan 24, 2006
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... I think there is a difference between an inference rule like "A implies (B->C)" and what you seem to want, which is more like quoting, "A says '(B->C)'". I...
Dave Reynolds
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Jan 24, 2006
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Dear Dave, Ummm...maybe. I would interpret all of these ( ->) as being defeasible inference - in which case 'says/ claims' would seem to be a reasonable ...
Matt Williams
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Jan 24, 2006
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... OK. I can see that you want to capture situations where the thing claimed is also defeasible - either because it's a claim about what some other paper...
Dave Reynolds
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Jan 25, 2006
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No, good point. Thanks, Matt...
Matt Williams
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Jan 25, 2006
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Hi again, Is the process by which an OWL document converts to an RDF document called reification, or am I being stupid. Phil...
phil_butt2000
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Feb 10, 2006
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... Not by anyone I know [1]. ... Unlikely. Confused or cross-talked, perhaps. [An OWL document /is/ an RDF document, unless you mean something written in the...
Chris Dollin
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Dear Phil, Within a knowledge representation context reification means treating a relation as a class [1]. Another more general meaning: "Reification, also...
Jochem Liem
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Feb 10, 2006
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Hi, I have a persistent model with Postgres database backend. I have to add reification statements to an existing triple in the statement table. I know the...
deeptikd
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Nov 21, 2007
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... [WARNING: not everyone thinks RDF reification is a Good Thing. It's possible that it's not really the appropriate solution for you. Take care.] Don't think...
Chris Dollin
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Nov 22, 2007
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Thank you very much Chris for the detailed reply. Best regards, Deepti ... like ... reification ... 690597 England...
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