lynx is a text rendering web site thus it parses no html that does
graphical markup except to get the text related to the images.  it
doesn't do frames but to break out the links.  there is no way to get
jfw to reformat the page but if you are using jfw 3.3, lots is done for
you.

Lisa LaNell Mauldin wrote:
>
> Okay, I'll get things started...
>
> I have encountered the almost constant need to reformat the screen using
> Insert-F5 while surfing the net with JFW.
>
> A friend of mine uses "Links" and when we have compared the identical web
> sites, Links automatically reformats the screen for him.  Is there some
> setting or command I am missing in JFW where I could have JFW automatically
> reformat when it is necessary?
>
> Thanks! -Lisa
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Hi Lisa.  If you don't like having to reformat the screen, then you really
should look into upgrading to JFW 3.31.  JFW 3.31 uses Microsoft Active
Accessibility to present you with what feels like a reformatted version of
the page regardless of what is being displayed on screen.  All of the links
are labeled as links automatically, and you can walk through the entire
document with your cursor keys.  There is also enhanced support for filling
out web-based forms in this version.  Furthermore, you can do a lot with the
links list including re-ordering links in alphabetical order or filtering
out links you've already visited.

As for Lynx automatically reformatting the page.  I believe a more accurate
way of looking at Lynx's display would be to say that Lynx simply ignores
much of the formatting information that is put into a document to make it
look pretty for sighted users.  At any rate, I think you would be very
pleased to see what Henter-Joyce have done in version 3.31 of JFW.

Cheers,
Jerry

Lisa,

If you are using JFW 3.31 with IE 5, this automatic reformatting is
accomplished through the aid of a virtual cursor.  I use this setup at home,
and I have never enjoyed using the Internet as much as I do now.
Unfortunately, to my knowledge, there is no automatic reformatting feature
available for any version of IE prior to IE 5.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa LaNell Mauldin [mailto:lisamauldin@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 8:20 AM
To: jfw-employment@egroups.com
Subject: [jfw-employment] Reformatting the Screen


Okay, I'll get things started...

I have encountered the almost constant need to reformat the screen using
Insert-F5 while surfing the net with JFW.

A friend of mine uses "Links" and when we have compared the identical web
sites, Links automatically reformats the screen for him.  Is there some
setting or command I am missing in JFW where I could have JFW automatically
reformat when it is necessary?

Thanks! -Lisa



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Okay, I'll get things started...

I have encountered the almost constant need to reformat the screen using
Insert-F5 while surfing the net with JFW.

A friend of mine uses "Links" and when we have compared the identical web
sites, Links automatically reformats the screen for him.  Is there some
setting or command I am missing in JFW where I could have JFW automatically
reformat when it is necessary?

Thanks! -Lisa



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Hi all,

First and most importantly, welcome to all who have subscribed thus
far.  Thanks.  I am quite confident that you will find this a useful
resource in your use and/or implementation of JFW in the workplace.

Please feel free to start any discussion related to the topic of the
list.  Involvement is the key to getting a good thing off the ground.  I'm
getting things started, so it is now your turns to help me take it to the
next level.

Please also check out the new Proactive Accessibility web site at
http://www.proactive-access.com.  Please feel free to give me any
feedback and any information useful in this new site.  It will grow only
through active participation in the various projects.  Most relevant here,
of course, is the Proactive Employment Project and the Screen Reader
Configuration Sharing Project.  Please participate in these projects.

Thank you for your time.
Regards and happy holidays.

AT Kratter and Company in Garden Grove, California, is using JAWS with Dragon through JAWBone.  I've seen it work, and it's really neat.  It requires a fast (at least 300MHz) machine and 128MB RAM memory.  But it works!

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Francis

Dan Clark wrote:

In case you had not already heard of it, there is also a program called
"JAWBONE" that is supposed to get JFW and Naturally Speaking working
together.  I have no experience personally with JawBone, but if you want to
contact the manufacturer, here is the contact information:

Next Generation Technologies (Jawbone)
Ed Rosenthal
425-744-1100.

Thanks,
Dan Clark
Account Development Manager
Henter-Joyce, Inc.
danC@...
800-336-5658 x 1016

-----Original Message-----
From: d.d.torrey [mailto:d.d.torrey@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 4:19 AM
To: jfw-employment@egroups.com
Subject: [jfw-employment] Re: Re:Dragon Dictate and DragonNaturally
Speaking.

Daryl, are these Beta scripts though or final releases of scripts? The
problem is, I've been looking for quite some time and have known about the
Beta scripts but wonder if there will be some permanent scripts released.

Donna Miller
At 10:13 PM 11/24/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Check out the JFW beta script area of H-J's web site.  That page includes
>links to scripts for Dragon NaturallySpeaking versions 2,
>3 and 3.52.
>The URL is http://www.hj.com/JFW/Scripts/JFWBetaScripts.html.
>Hope this helps.
>
>Regards and happy Thanksgiving.
>On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:09:30 -0600, d.d.torrey wrote:
>
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >I'm sure JAWS has done something about this, but I am a computer
instructor
> >who needs to find the scripts available to make Dragon Dictate and Dragon
> >Naturally speaking work with JAWS. some of my clients need this
particular
> >service, and somehow, I'm not finding any information about it even
though
> >I know people are using both of these products. Could someone help
please?
> >
> >Donna
> >
> >
> >
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contact the manufacturer, here is the contact information:

Next Generation Technologies (Jawbone)
Ed Rosenthal
425-744-1100.

Thanks,
Dan Clark
Account Development Manager
Henter-Joyce, Inc.
danC@...
800-336-5658 x 1016


-----Original Message-----
From: d.d.torrey [mailto:d.d.torrey@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 4:19 AM
To: jfw-employment@egroups.com
Subject: [jfw-employment] Re: Re:Dragon Dictate and DragonNaturally
Speaking.


Daryl, are these Beta scripts though or final releases of scripts? The
problem is, I've been looking for quite some time and have known about the
Beta scripts but wonder if there will be some permanent scripts released.

Donna Miller
At 10:13 PM 11/24/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Check out the JFW beta script area of H-J's web site.  That page includes
>links to scripts for Dragon NaturallySpeaking versions 2,
>3 and 3.52.
>The URL is http://www.hj.com/JFW/Scripts/JFWBetaScripts.html.
>Hope this helps.
>
>Regards and happy Thanksgiving.
>On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:09:30 -0600, d.d.torrey wrote:
>
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >I'm sure JAWS has done something about this, but I am a computer
instructor
> >who needs to find the scripts available to make Dragon Dictate and Dragon
> >Naturally speaking work with JAWS. some of my clients need this
particular
> >service, and somehow, I'm not finding any information about it even
though
> >I know people are using both of these products. Could someone help
please?
> >
> >Donna
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Donna,

Believe me, I understand.  Go ahead and give them a try, knowing and
understanding that they are betas.  They are just scripts, so
they will not "time out" or do anything else of that sort.
Regards.

On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:38:22 -0600, d.d.torrey wrote:

>No, I haven't tried them, but I will if they are something that won't die
>on a person after thirty days. that's tough on clients and equipment when
>tthat happens.
>
>Donna
>At 09:32 AM 11/25/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>They are the beta scripts.  Have you tried them?
>>Regards.
>>On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:18:43 -0600, d.d.torrey wrote:
>>
>> >Daryl, are these Beta scripts though or final releases of scripts? The
>> >problem is, I've been looking for quite some time and have known about the
>> >Beta scripts but wonder if there will be some permanent scripts released.
>> >
>> >Donna Miller
>> >At 10:13 PM 11/24/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>> >>Hi,
>> >>
>> >>Check out the JFW beta script area of H-J's web site.  That page includes
>> >>links to scripts for Dragon NaturallySpeaking versions 2,
>> >>3 and 3.52.
>> >>The URL is http://www.hj.com/JFW/Scripts/JFWBetaScripts.html.
>> >>Hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >>Regards and happy Thanksgiving.
>> >>On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:09:30 -0600, d.d.torrey wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Hi Everyone,
>> >> >
>> >> >I'm sure JAWS has done something about this, but I am a computer
>> instructor
>> >> >who needs to find the scripts available to make Dragon Dictate and Dragon
>> >> >Naturally speaking work with JAWS. some of my clients need this
>> particular
>> >> >service, and somehow, I'm not finding any information about it even
>> though
>> >> >I know people are using both of these products. Could someone help
>> please?
>> >> >
>> >> >Donna
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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No, I haven't tried them, but I will if they are something that won't die
on a person after thirty days. that's tough on clients and equipment when
tthat happens.

Donna
At 09:32 AM 11/25/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>They are the beta scripts.  Have you tried them?
>Regards.
>On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:18:43 -0600, d.d.torrey wrote:
>
> >Daryl, are these Beta scripts though or final releases of scripts? The
> >problem is, I've been looking for quite some time and have known about the
> >Beta scripts but wonder if there will be some permanent scripts released.
> >
> >Donna Miller
> >At 10:13 PM 11/24/1999 -0700, you wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Check out the JFW beta script area of H-J's web site.  That page includes
> >>links to scripts for Dragon NaturallySpeaking versions 2,
> >>3 and 3.52.
> >>The URL is http://www.hj.com/JFW/Scripts/JFWBetaScripts.html.
> >>Hope this helps.
> >>
> >>Regards and happy Thanksgiving.
> >>On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:09:30 -0600, d.d.torrey wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi Everyone,
> >> >
> >> >I'm sure JAWS has done something about this, but I am a computer
> instructor
> >> >who needs to find the scripts available to make Dragon Dictate and Dragon
> >> >Naturally speaking work with JAWS. some of my clients need this
> particular
> >> >service, and somehow, I'm not finding any information about it even
> though
> >> >I know people are using both of these products. Could someone help
> please?
> >> >
> >> >Donna
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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Hi,

They are the beta scripts.  Have you tried them?
Regards.
On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:18:43 -0600, d.d.torrey wrote:

>Daryl, are these Beta scripts though or final releases of scripts? The
>problem is, I've been looking for quite some time and have known about the
>Beta scripts but wonder if there will be some permanent scripts released.
>
>Donna Miller
>At 10:13 PM 11/24/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>Check out the JFW beta script area of H-J's web site.  That page includes
>>links to scripts for Dragon NaturallySpeaking versions 2,
>>3 and 3.52.
>>The URL is http://www.hj.com/JFW/Scripts/JFWBetaScripts.html.
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Regards and happy Thanksgiving.
>>On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:09:30 -0600, d.d.torrey wrote:
>>
>> >Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> >I'm sure JAWS has done something about this, but I am a computer instructor
>> >who needs to find the scripts available to make Dragon Dictate and Dragon
>> >Naturally speaking work with JAWS. some of my clients need this particular
>> >service, and somehow, I'm not finding any information about it even though
>> >I know people are using both of these products. Could someone help please?
>> >
>> >Donna
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Daryl, are these Beta scripts though or final releases of scripts? The
problem is, I've been looking for quite some time and have known about the
Beta scripts but wonder if there will be some permanent scripts released.

Donna Miller
At 10:13 PM 11/24/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Check out the JFW beta script area of H-J's web site.  That page includes
>links to scripts for Dragon NaturallySpeaking versions 2,
>3 and 3.52.
>The URL is http://www.hj.com/JFW/Scripts/JFWBetaScripts.html.
>Hope this helps.
>
>Regards and happy Thanksgiving.
>On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:09:30 -0600, d.d.torrey wrote:
>
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >I'm sure JAWS has done something about this, but I am a computer instructor
> >who needs to find the scripts available to make Dragon Dictate and Dragon
> >Naturally speaking work with JAWS. some of my clients need this particular
> >service, and somehow, I'm not finding any information about it even though
> >I know people are using both of these products. Could someone help please?
> >
> >Donna
> >
> >
> >
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Hi,

Check out the JFW beta script area of H-J's web site.  That page includes links
to scripts for Dragon NaturallySpeaking versions 2,
3 and 3.52.
The URL is http://www.hj.com/JFW/Scripts/JFWBetaScripts.html.
Hope this helps.

Regards and happy Thanksgiving.
On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:09:30 -0600, d.d.torrey wrote:

>Hi Everyone,
>
>I'm sure JAWS has done something about this, but I am a computer instructor
>who needs to find the scripts available to make Dragon Dictate and Dragon
>Naturally speaking work with JAWS. some of my clients need this particular
>service, and somehow, I'm not finding any information about it even though
>I know people are using both of these products. Could someone help please?
>
>Donna
>
>
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Hii Tori,

Tried to write you off list, but bounces from your return address as shown.

Otherwise, please be advised:

I have both versions of Dragon.

Still here in box new.

Was unable to ever get working properly.

I just a few days ago employed consultent to help.

He is himself blind and good with technoligy.

He is Dennis Brown.

His phone is:

770-465-9621


If you are able to locate any informaiton on our usieng this Dragon, I
would appreciate sharring same;

As I will msyelf do for you.

Thanks for the cooperation in our mutual intersts.

I trust this coming off line is OK; Right?


From: "d.d.torrey"


Subject: [jfw-employment] Re: Re:Dragon Dictate and Dragon Naturally

Hi Everyone,

I'm sure JAWS has done something about this, but I am a computer instructor
who needs to find the scripts available to make Dragon Dictate and Dragon
Naturally speaking work with JAWS. some of my clients need this particular
service, and somehow, I'm not finding any information about it even though
I know people are using both of these products. Could someone help please?

Donna
At 11:09 AM 11/24/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I'm sure JAWS has done something about this, but I am a computer
>instructor who needs to find the scripts available to make Dragon Dictate
>and Dragon Naturally speaking work with JAWS. some of my clients need this
>particular service, and somehow, I'm not finding any information about it
>even though I know people are using both of these products. Could someone
>help please?
>
>Donna
>
>
>
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>http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1702
>
>
>
>-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar!
>-- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=jfw-employment&m=1
>

Respectfully With Best Regards,
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Can you give us brief over view of software applicaiton and what it does?

At 12:24 PM 11/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>It looks like you can get this software at their web site at
>http://www.syntrillium.com.
>Regards.
>
>
>On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Dennis Gowen wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > If some one could let me have a demo copy of cool edit, as the main
> > distributor for Henter Joyce in the UK
> > I will look at the program and then advise on the best way forward.
> >
> > Assuring you of our Continued support
> >
> > Regards, Dennis
> >
> > Dennis Gowen (UK Technical Support Engineer)
> > Sight and Sound Technology
> > Phone:        01604 798058
> > E-mail:       dennis@...
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an alternative to cool edit that a media journalist friend of mine uses is
called fast edie
it may be fast edit but I'm pretty sure that it is fast edie, does everyone
already know about this or shall I ask him for some more details to post here?
he uses it with jaws, pretty effectively. its not perfect but so little is.


At 14:51 23/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
>A number of blind people have asked Syntrillium Software, the makers of
>Cool Edit Pro, to make it work more smoothly with Window-Eyes.  However,
>I'd like to
>see it work more effectively, too, with JFW.  I have written to HJ about
>this, with
>nary a response.  Cool Edit Pro is used by many broadcasters and music
>studios, and I
>would urge HJ to get on the stick and work with Syntrillium.  The latter
>must not get
>the idea that there is only one screen reader for blind comp[uter users.
>I do hope some action is taken soon by HJ on this matter.
>--Daveed--
>
>
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Hi Everyone,

I'm sure JAWS has done something about this, but I am a computer instructor
who needs to find the scripts available to make Dragon Dictate and Dragon
Naturally speaking work with JAWS. some of my clients need this particular
service, and somehow, I'm not finding any information about it even though
I know people are using both of these products. Could someone help please?

Donna

Hi,

It looks like you can get this software at their web site at
http://www.syntrillium.com.
Regards.


On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Dennis Gowen wrote:

> Hi all
>
> If some one could let me have a demo copy of cool edit, as the main
> distributor for Henter Joyce in the UK
> I will look at the program and then advise on the best way forward.
>
> Assuring you of our Continued support
>
> Regards, Dennis
>
> Dennis Gowen (UK Technical Support Engineer)
> Sight and Sound Technology
> Phone:  01604 798058
> E-mail:  dennis@...
> Web:  www.sightandsound.co.uk
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
>
>

Hi,

The Cool Edit accessibility issue was brought up in reference to its use
in broadcasting and other employment situations, and the thread is meant
to come up with ideas to improve the program's accessibility with JFW, so,
therefore, it is on topic for this list.  If a little discussion of how
Cool Edit is being designed to work better with Window-Eyes ends up
improving the program's accessibility with JFW, then it is no big deal.  I
will watch this very closely, however.  This is not a Window-Eyes list...

While I am not a Cool Edit user, and my job has nothing to do with the use
of that program, it apparently does to at least a few subscribers on this
list, so there is no problem with its coverage.  I am still waiting on the
specifics of this program's accessibility flaws.  We need to be much more
specific when approaching companies with these kinds of accessibility
concerns.
Regards.

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, STAN & BOBBI KAY wrote:

> When D.S. initially spoke of the new JFW Employment list I agreed it would
> be a great list for many people; And still believe he has a great idea.
>
> I believe though of the several message I have read all have the same
> subject line; Which I left hereon.
>
> Somethign needs to be done about making a subject line for point of
> reference about content.
>
> Not all of us can help on all issues and soem of us don't need informaiton
> about topics unrelated to us.
>
> So, can soembody do something about better subject liens?
>
> At 07:32 PM 11/23/99 -0800, you wrote:
> >I haven no idea what Syntrillium is doing with WE, but it might be well
> >for HJ to
> >find out!
> >(grin!)
> >
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Hi all

If some one could let me have a demo copy of cool edit, as the main
distributor for Henter Joyce in the UK
I will look at the program and then advise on the best way forward.

Assuring you of our Continued support

Regards, Dennis

Dennis Gowen (UK Technical Support Engineer)
Sight and Sound Technology
Phone:  01604 798058
E-mail:  dennis@...
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When D.S. initially spoke of the new JFW Employment list I agreed it would
be a great list for many people; And still believe he has a great idea.

I believe though of the several message I have read all have the same
subject line; Which I left hereon.

Somethign needs to be done about making a subject line for point of
reference about content.

Not all of us can help on all issues and soem of us don't need informaiton
about topics unrelated to us.

So, can soembody do something about better subject liens?

At 07:32 PM 11/23/99 -0800, you wrote:
>I haven no idea what Syntrillium is doing with WE, but it might be well
>for HJ to
>find out!
>(grin!)
>
>--Daveed--
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Respectfully With Best Regards,
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Attorney At law
phone:  (810) 777-5555
E-Mail:  "StanPhillips@..."
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BLINK TRUST HOLDING COMPANY, INC.
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Hi,

I believe that an even more effective approach would be for those who have tried
to use Cool Edit to share their experiences, so
that H-J and the JFW user community could ascertain the accessibility of Cool
Edit before dialog begins with Syntrillium.  That
would provide Syntrillium with the specifics needed to do a better job at
improving accessibility.
Regards.

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:55:13 -0800 (PST), Daveed Mandell wrote:

>The idea would be for HJ to ascertain just how accessible it is right now,
>or
>how much it isn't.  They can get the software from Syntrillium, or provide
>Syntrillium with JFW.
>www.support-@....
>
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I haven no idea what Syntrillium is doing with WE, but it might be well
for HJ to
find out!
(grin!)

--Daveed--

Hi,

Do you know what changes Syntrillium is making to improve the program's
accessibility with Window-Eyes?  It is quite probable
that those changes, along with some possible JFW scripting, could bring the same
level of accessibility of Cool Edit to JFW.
Regards.

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:54:11 -0800 (PST), Daveed Mandell wrote:

>The problem has been described to Syntrillium in detail, and they have
>begun working
>with GW Micro.  If I were HJ, I'd work with this obliging company, too.
>I can't give you specifics, as I have yet to use this software.
>I believe it must have to do with not following strict Windows
>conventions.
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>
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The idea would be for HJ to ascertain just how accessible it is right now,
or
how much it isn't.  They can get the software from Syntrillium, or provide
Syntrillium with JFW.
www.support-@....

The problem has been described to Syntrillium in detail, and they have
begun working
with GW Micro.  If I were HJ, I'd work with this obliging company, too.
I can't give you specifics, as I have yet to use this software.
I believe it must have to do with not following strict Windows
conventions.
--Daveed--

Hi,

Since I am not a Cool Edit user, I am not directly involved here, but I do have
one question that should probably have a complex,
but specific answer.
What is it about Cool Edit that makes it inaccessible?  Does it lack keyboard
shortcuts or does it lack a standard Windows user
interface?  What functions of the program can be used easily?  Which ones can be
use with some tricky manipulations of JFW?
And, finally, which functions seem to be completely inaccessible?
When this more specific information is compiled and sent both to Syntrillium
Software and Henter-Joyce, more action might possibly
be more forthcomming.  It is one thing just to ask for improved accessibility,
and quite another to provide specifics.
Regards.

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:51:57 -0800 (PST), Daveed Mandell wrote:

>A number of blind people have asked Syntrillium Software, the makers of
>Cool Edit Pro, to make it work more smoothly with Window-Eyes.  However,
>I'd like to
>see it work more effectively, too, with JFW.  I have written to HJ about
>this, with
>nary a response.  Cool Edit Pro is used by many broadcasters and music
>studios, and I
>would urge HJ to get on the stick and work with Syntrillium.  The latter
>must not get
>the idea that there is only one screen reader for blind comp[uter users.
>I do hope some action is taken soon by HJ on this matter.
>--Daveed--
>
>
>
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Making cool edit accessible to window eyes depending on how it is done
would make it accessible or at least bitable for jfw as well.  My
suggestion is that it be done following windows standard api
guidelines.
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A number of blind people have asked Syntrillium Software, the makers of
Cool Edit Pro, to make it work more smoothly with Window-Eyes.  However,
I'd like to
see it work more effectively, too, with JFW.  I have written to HJ about
this, with
nary a response.  Cool Edit Pro is used by many broadcasters and music
studios, and I
would urge HJ to get on the stick and work with Syntrillium.  The latter
must not get
the idea that there is only one screen reader for blind comp[uter users.
I do hope some action is taken soon by HJ on this matter.
--Daveed--

Darrell, I think this is a great idea.  Hopefully people will catch on and
this will become an excellent resource.  Talk to you later, Dan

Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Dan Clark
danC@...
800-336-5658 x 1016

Hi,

Thank you for subscribing to jfw-employment.  As you have already read in the
press release, this list discusses the implementation and use of JFW in the
workplace.  We have a monumental task at hand, so lets get started.

Regards,
Darrell Shandrow
Proactive Accessibility