Hi Ren,

Great to see that you are back to experimenting.

Good old MC2, Einstein would be proud of you. <g>

< It is pulsating like mad and rotating in both directions.
It this rotation between different cylinders or is the contra-
rotation random and all over the surface? Really does not matter, you
have a 'goer'.

< Previously they would slowly meandah across water surface.
This is the 'normal' action of a good seeding/breeding cell.


< This time the mass of froth and bubble jumps to the centre cylinder
within 1 second of being blown out to edge.
I have had similar action as well Ren, it is usually a sign of a
stronger than normal 'static' charge and also a sign of a very good
non-leaking cell.

The static-like potential is a centripetal (inward) force, with the
negative to the center of the cell. I explained in my book as to how
the unequal plate areas cause this action in the cell, which in
effect is a capacitor.

If your cell is on an insulated surface, you should be able to draw a
quarter-of-an-inch (or thereabouts) spark from the outer cylinder and
earth. This spark will be more easily seen at night or in a darkened
room.

If you get this spark, you will also be able to light an LED that is
connected one leg to the two inch cylinder, and the other leg to the
3 inch cylinder, with no power connected to the cell that is. You may
have to transpose the legs of the LED to get the polarity right, as
the current is directional.

< Once at centre they immediately form 3 or 5 pointed star shape......
I have found that with my cell the points of the star equal the
spacer quantity. Thus as I use 4 spacers, I get a four pointed star.
If the 'discharge' is random, the star may have a varying number of
points.
This is also a sign of having the 'right' type of insulators.

< ... before degenerating to surface coating of fine bubbles
which,....
As the central tube is negative, and the contracting 'static' field
is also negative, the two similar polarities will tend to oppose and
thus you will get the effect that you have described.
When you get the central 'star', turn off the charging current, the
star should stay there, to slowly drift apart.

< Opinions please.
Your good looks are only matched by your obvious cellery skills. <g>

More seriously, most people would kill to get a cell to the stage
that MC2 is at, a very, very good cell indeed.
If MC2 is able to 'pass' this force to the engine, I would suggest
that you put it in a car and give James Randi a ring. I am sure that
you could use a $1,000,000. <big grin>

Hate to impose on you Ren, but a couple of pictures looking in from
the top of the cell would not go astray.

Kind regards to you and your family dear friend.

Alex.

Ps.

For those that want some more detail on the above, let me quote
Walter Russell.

" The discharging condition is negative. It divides speed of motion
into tenuity of substance. The principle of the division of motion
because of expansion of volume, is the cause of the deceleration of
radiation.

One can better comprehend this principle by knowing that what we call
substance is purely motion. Motion simulates substances by its
variation of pressures, its speed and its gyroscopic relation to its
wave axis. "

If the reader would only realize that nothing is 'solid', be it a
piston, a engine block or a Joe cell cylinder, he would then grasp
more easily the concept of the cell operation and the 'output' that
it generates.

"Everything which seems at rest depends upon violent motion to make
believe it is at rest. A wire wheel could appear to be a steel disk
if spun fast enough. The faster it is spun, the more at rest it would
seem."