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Re: mind over matter

Pity not many of us can put 2+2 together,looks like Bernie did.
Repost of Bill Wrights
transfer tube
    Posted by: "Bill and Joan Wright" BJ1959@... thewrightkid
    Date: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:12 am ((PDT))
 
Take two high voltage diodes from old microwave ovens and tie the cathode of one to the anode of the other, this junction goes to a tesla coil output. Then take the anode end( arrow) and connect to the engine block. Then take the other diode cathode end and connect it to alluvium filings that you get from a lathe, put these in a plastic bottle. cut holes  out of each end of bottle, one for air inlet and other end for air outlet which you connect to car air breather inlet of your car engine. Run a wire into the alluvium filings and the other end of the wire to the cathode (bar end) of the other diode. This will give the alluvium filings a positive charge for the incoming air to the engine, and the other diode end (anode) connected to the engine block. This will give a negative charge to the engine. Any question  Bill Wright



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From: jkjkool@...
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:10:33 -0700
Subject: Re: [Joe Cell Free Energy Device] Re: mind over matter



Adrian,
 
In conventional electronics, multiple diodes in series can be used when a diode of required value isnt available. Breakdown voltage is the issue here, as well as the ability to pass forward current. I'd need to have another look at diodes again, because for some reason i cant remember what I used to know about them. Capacitors, resistors and diodes all behave differently when connected in series or in parallel. two of the three operate as oppposites. (the rules for series or parallel connections are different for one of the three components mentioned)
 
Otherwise, if you saw multiple diodes connected in series on a circuit board, and high voltage was being created without use of a transformer, the diodes were also connected to capacitors. you can make voltage multipliers using diodes and capacitors. You get high voltage DC this way.
oh, and to make a circuit which creates cold electricity, check out the bedini motor. I have heard great things about it. very easy to construct. (in comparison to the Joe cell).
 
KP

--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Adrian <adrian.mutimer@...> wrote:

From: Adrian <adrian.mutimer@...>
Subject: [Joe Cell Free Energy Device] Re: mind over matter
To: joecellfreeenergydevice@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 7:50 AM

James, hello, nice to hve you here again.

I don't get all of this, mainly becuase of my ignorance about triacs, which ignorance I will fix sometime today (if I can).

However there is a question that you may be able to answer. In several cold electricity epxeriments I have seen the people involved use a whole line of diodes all connected up to each other in series. I have seen cases where 20 were used! But why? I cannot see why more than one is needed. What is the logic behind this?

Bernie, do you know?

If you go back a year, I asked this group if anyone knew how to stop the hot stuff and pass the cold stuff, and nobody knew. But if I am not wrong, what is being said here is that it is not difficult to do this, it is just very difficult to measure the cold stuff so it has been very hard to know when one has been successful. It seems that the oil effect is taken as a measure of succeess, and with good reason, as Bernie has pointed out, what else is it really likely to be? What would be funky is to have an independent way of measuring it.
If as has been said the effects of the oil cell and th Joe Cell are essentially the same then this independent measure would be supporting evidence, or at least a very valuable tool.

Regards

Adrian
--- In joecellfreeenergyde vice@yahoogroups .com, "jgosscacc1" <jgosscacc@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Bernie, Adrian and all,
>
> I have been away for a few months and was getting caught up on things.
> You may remember I did an experiment a few months back and determined as
> long as two electrical conductive parts were in physical contact with
> each other, only separated by a thin film of oil, and as long as the two
> parts have relative motion, the film of oil keeps the two components
> electrically insulated from each other. When relative motion stops, the
> two metal parts will again make electrical contact. Bernie, this may be
> why the oil appears to give up its energy overnight and requires time to
> reactivate itself the next day. Even if the car battery overnight
> activated the diodes, the rotating metal components of the engine, while
> at rest, may be allowing the crank to neutralize its charge.
>
> It may also be a requirement that the alternator be on line and running
> before the oil can be booted up. It would be interesting to know if the
> diodes would still influence the oil if they were supplied by a voltage
> source other than the alternator, such as a 12-volt battery that is
> electrically isolated from engine operation.
>
> In my oil experiment I was comparing the conductivity of new and used
> motor oil. Not much difference in that they both would only pass a few
> microamps of current with a source voltage up to 550 volts dc. If the
> diodes are used to block hot electricity and pass cold electricity, it
> seems that the oil itself would block hot electricity while passing cold
> without the use of reversed diodes. Bernie, have you tried using three
> or more diodes instead of two? As it is the two diodes, the oil, and
> source voltage form a series circuit. In this case the two reversed
> diodes appear as an open circuit, as does the oil, and will tend to drop
> the source voltage across that open. The question is which of the two
> appears to be the most open circuit. I believe I determined the oil
> represented the greatest open when I ran the oil experiment with an open
> gate triac placed in series with the oil. Adding more reversed diodes in
> series may allow the oil to appear as less of an open circuit and the
> diodes as more of an open circuit, which might amplify whatever is
> taking place. Using a string of diodes with taps at their junctions may
> be a way to tune the system.
>
> Thanks, James Goss.
>






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Pity not many of us can put 2+2 together,looks like Bernie did. Repost of Bill Wrights transfer tube Posted by: "Bill and Joan Wright" BJ1959@......
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Hello Non Ya, I have experimented with oil and determined that the oil will not allow cylinders to become forced charged as they do with water. Also, the ...
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Hello Adrian, One characteristic of series diodes connected in reverse bias, other than what has already been stated, deals with capacitance. A reversed biased...
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Many thanks for this. I had no idea of eithr of these two effects. Regards Adrian...
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Hello Bernie, I was thinking about getting a signal to the oil reservoir when I realized I was not sure about this: Does the oil dipstick make contact to the...
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You can read oil on the stick while the engine is running.......
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That is another good idea, but just sticking with the wire setup would probably be easier   KP   ... From: bob bell <bobbell2000@...> Subject: RE:...
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I guess it would take some expreimentation. Maybe air charge the cylinders, then add oil. What do you mean "force charge"?   KP ... From: jgosscacc1...
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interesting question. I dont know if it completely clears the stick, it may, but sometimes oil can evade the pickup tube to the oil pump. that is why they have...
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Hello Jim, I was thinking that if the oil level did drop below the stick during an engine run, and the stick was only receiving oil due to turbulence created...
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Small engines like Briggs & Stratton lawn mower engines use splash lubrication. Crank lubrication on modern car engines is forced, not splashed, but some...
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Adrian, James, If we go back to the concept of CE being superimposed fields spiraling around the wire but traveling in both directions, and now find that a...
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Hello Bernie and all, This autumn I plan on running some experiments using special purpose solid-state devices of the high frequency nature. I have had...
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cool look forward to hearing your results! do you need a lab assistant? :) nath ________________________________ From: jgosscacc1 <jgosscacc@...> To:...
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... With all due respect...already did the magnetron to oil. Not to your level of expertise...I honestly admit. As you have donated a lot of time on my behalf,...
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Some of my current observations: I believe that water and oil react differently to the energy we are playing with. Picture an inner oil chamber, with a water...
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Yes, exactly. I was going to say the same thing. The thing is that we have a cell precisely to *make* the superhigh frequencies we are talking about here. It...
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i think the alternator makes the frequencies and the cell just attenuates or filters them. joe said you dont need a cell to run a car. nath ...
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