Hi Lee,

Being new to the Joe Cell I have (as an engineer) evaluated all the written,
photographic and video evidence. What I find is a follows:

1) The output from the Joe Cell is connected to the vacuum port on the
intake manifold.
2) Manifold vacuum is used to draw vapour off the Joe Cell and into the
intake manifold.
3) The exhaust is still hot but seems composed differently.
4) The Joe Cell can work unpowered but needs a connection to electricity
from time to time.
5) The water and material of the Joe Cell must be altered by a bedding in
process which is determined by a visual examination..
6) Neither the water or cell material seem to be consumed in the process.
7) No engine mods are needed other than advancing the timing.

What this suggests to me is:

1) The Joe Cell is producing a combustible gas or gasses.
2) It is probably Hydrogen and may be largely monatomic / nascent hydrogen
which it at a lower energy state than normal diatomic hydrogen and can
deliver a bigger bang for the buck.
3) The gas / gasses production method occurring in the Joe Cell may be new
to science.
4) It remains to be see how long a Joe Cell will last, how often it needs
topping up with Stage 3 water and how often it needs connection to a power
supply.
5) A overall energy balance study needs to be done along with an Joe Cell
and exhaust gas analysis to see if excess energy (OU) is occurring as is
suggested and that the combustion process is not producing any nasties.

You may find these two videos of interest as the Joe Cell outer casing is
transparent, allowing a lot more of the activity to be seen.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7785149275674305332&pl=true

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3284393389204681480&pl=true

Greg


From: <LeeAPatrinostro@...>
To: <joecellfreeenergydevice@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: [Joe Cell Free Energy Device] Engine implosion


>I have been reading many of the post for a few weeks now. Even though I
>plan
> to build a Joe cell device, I find the explanation on how this device is
> supposed to run an engine lacking. Even given that this device may some
> how run
> an engine, to contribute this to an implosion verse explosion seems
> unlikely.
> With an implosion the most cylinder pressure difference achievable would
> be
> atmospheric (14.7 psi). I greatly doubt that this is even enough to over
> come
> the friction imbedded in a motor. It certainly would not be enough to
> produce any usable power. There are also many other issues bring doubt
> that this
> device could power an off the shelf engine as described. One of those is,
> it is
> not enough to just add some form of power to an auto engine to make it
> run.
> The power must be time or pulsed. Also, the idea that the engine still
> responds to the accelerator pedal would imply that the device or energy
> form has
> some form of intelligence to understand when to add power to the engine.
> I have
> not seen any one address these obvious issues.
>
> I am quite interested in this device since it seems to have quite a few
> believers, and would enjoy discussing this with any other engineers that
> may be
> reading the posts.
>
> Later
> Lee
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