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#31 From: Michael Hogarth <mahogarth@...>
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Mode
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Hello:

Has anyone out there used the latest Microsoft JDK ADO classes to "webify"
data from a MS SQL server using servlets?  Although JDBC is great, there
are no 3rd party JDBC drivers that are reasonably priced (the cheapest I
found was $2,995 for unlimited access---this is over and above the price of
MSSQL!).  The cheapest route is to use Microsoft's native ADO Java classes.
Does anyone have experience with this?

BTW, JDBC-ODBC bridge has several problems, the worst of which is that it
is not production code and has several well known bugs.

Thanks in advance,
Mike Hogarth

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#30 From: Evan Coyne Maloney <evan@...>
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Mode
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Got it! Thanks, Paul!

>The easiest way to switch from immediate to digest is as follows:
>
>1) Go to this URL:
>
> http://pop.livesoftware.com:81/guest/RemoteAvailableLists
>
>2) unsubscribe yourself from the list
>
>3) subscribe yourself to the list in the new delivery mode (i.e. digest)


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#29 From: pc@... (Paul Colton)
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 6:58 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Mode
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The easiest way to switch from immediate to digest is as follows:

1) Go to this URL:

  http://pop.livesoftware.com:81/guest/RemoteAvailableLists

2) unsubscribe yourself from the list

3) subscribe yourself to the list in the new delivery mode (i.e. digest)

At 11:01 AM 4/15/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I understand there is a digest mode for this list, but I can't figure out
>how to turn it on. The help file returned by the server does not mention
>anything about a digest mode, but Paul said it can be done. Can anyone
>point me in the right direction?
>
>Thanks!


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San Diego, CA 92121              pc@...

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#28 From: Evan Coyne Maloney <evan@...>
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 3:01 pm
Subject: Digest Mode
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I understand there is a digest mode for this list, but I can't figure out
how to turn it on. The help file returned by the server does not mention
anything about a digest mode, but Paul said it can be done. Can anyone
point me in the right direction?

Thanks!

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#27 From: "Wilfried Geis" <wge@...>
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 2:53 pm
Subject: Re: Free jav Emailer Source
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check out:
http://www.developer.com/reference/library/078970935x/ch11.htm
I think they have what you are looking for.
This example sends mail by opening a socket to a mail-server and uses the raw
SMTP-protocol.

It is meant for use with applets, you should have no problem to adapt it to
servlets though.

mail me if you want to have the adapted version. works pretty well for me.

Willi


webpro wrote:

> Good morning,
> Although I appreciate any commercial Email solution what I am hoping for
> is some freely available code to send Email. I will be looking to
> implement a form
> to email servlet, but all I'm really hung up on is the email part.
> Any freebies out there?
> Thanks,
> Allan Greenier
>
>
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#26 From: webpro <webpro@...>
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 2:23 pm
Subject: Free jav Emailer Source
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Good morning,
Although I appreciate any commercial Email solution what I am hoping for
is some freely available code to send Email. I will be looking to
implement a form
to email servlet, but all I'm really hung up on is the email part.
Any freebies out there?
Thanks,
Allan Greenier


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#25 From: webpro <webpro@...>
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: Once again: Dynamic reload of servlet
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Good morning,
Although I appreciate any commercial Email solution what I am hoping for
is some freely available code to send Email. I will be looking to
implement a form to email servlet, but all I'm really hung up on is the
email part.
Any freebies out there?
Thanks,
Allan Greenier

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#24 From: Nick Drew <drewn@...>
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 10:41 am
Subject: RE: PROB: JRrun with multiple Filter DLLs IIS3.0
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Paul,

Sorry to be a pain, but can I make sure we're talking about the same problem?

WebTrends produce log analysers.  These log analyser can be used in conjunction
with a free IIS plug-in DLL (also distributed by WebTrends) which allows
extended logs to be generated - including such information as browser type,
referring page, etc.

This plug-in does this by intercepting the HTTP request/response mechanism in
IIS (the SDK to do this is available on MS site) - I assume that JRun uses a
similar mechanism in its implementation, since jrun.dll is placed in the
FilterDLLs registry entry in W3SVC

I take your word that no log entry is generated for "/servlet/" related
requests.  I'm not quite sure why, but I don't need to know :-)  However, why
should the log entry not be made for .shtml files, which don't use the
"/servlet/" directive?

Now the conflict I'm referring to is between these two DLLs (the extended log
*generator* and the servlet processor).  It seems JRUN.DLL prevents IIS from
sending a log/send_response event to EXTNDLOG.DLL, and therefore stops it
logging the .shtml request.  I assume jrun preprocesses the URL to point to
itself, and functions as both an ISAPI filter and an ISAPI extension.  However,
I can see no reason why this should prevent either a log event or a
send_response event being delivered to EXTNDLOG.DLL.  Is this something
intentional in JRun, a side-effect of IIS, or a perculiarity of WebTrends
(obviously the latter two mean I've got to hunt elsewhere...)?

BTW - looking forward to JRun Pro - it would be good to see LiveSoftware become
commercially successful, given all the hard work and, err, altruism ;p

Many thanks,

Nick Drew

e: drewn@...
w: http://www.icomm.co.uk/


----------
From:  Paul Colton
Sent:  14 April 1998 06:26
To:  jrun-interest@...
Subject:  Re: PROB: JRrun with multiple Filter DLLs IIS3.0

WebTrends builds stats based on the log file. When you request a servlet
using the '/servlet/' directive, there is no associated file, so no log
entry is made.

JRun and WebTrends don't conflict, there is just no log there. We will be
releasing a patch in the future to add servlet logging to IIS, but it won't
make it in the 2.1 release.

At 01:46 PM 4/14/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Hiya all.
>
>I'm trying to get JRun and WebTrends IIS plug-in to work together.
>
>I have a site that is made up of a one index.html page, and all the others
are shtml files being processed by the SSI servlet.  I use the WebTrends
plug-in to generate individual log files for each multihomed site on my
server.
>
>The problem is that only .html files (and .gif, .jpg, etc.) show up in the
log file.  I assume that there is some conflict between the WebTrends and
JRunISAPI DLLs.
>
>In the appropriate registry setting, the WebTrends dll comes before JRun.
I haven't tried switching the order, because I wanted to test the water
here first.
>
>Can anyone suggest a work around?
>
>I'm running JRUN 2.1b3 on NT4x86 SP3 with IIS3.0
>
>Cheers,
>
>Nick Drew
>icomm technologies
>
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>
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#23 From: pc@... (Paul Colton)
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 6:42 am
Subject: Re: Once again: Dynamic reload of servlet
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Yes, the answer is a little technical:

Java's built-in classloader cannot unload a class, no matter what. To allow
for dynamic reloading, we have to use our own classloader. It has to look
in a specific directory, and if Java gets to it first (i.e. from
CLASSPATH), they it cannot be reloaded.

At 07:44 AM 4/15/98 +0000, you wrote:
>Hello!
>First of all: thank you very much for your help. I fixed my problems. But
now I have one more question: is there a reason why only servlets located
in the servlets directory are dynamically reloaded and not those located in
a directory which has been set up with the JRunAdmin tool?
>Thanks in advance!
>
>
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>
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#22 From: "Hr. Stiehl" <stiehl@...>
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 7:44 am
Subject: Once again: Dynamic reload of servlet
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Hello!
First of all: thank you very much for your help. I fixed my problems. But now I
have one more question: is there a reason why only servlets located in the
servlets directory are dynamically reloaded and not those located in a directory
which has been set up with the JRunAdmin tool?
Thanks in advance!

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#21 From: Michael Hogarth <mahogarth@...>
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: Dynamic reload of servlet
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Thanks a million.... I'll share whatever I come up with with the Jrun list.
Hey, you folks are OK!

--Mike H.

At 10:55 AM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Here is the source code to a complete, do nothing Security Manager. Start
>with this and read the Java docs on how each method can restrict access to
>that particular capability.
>


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#20 From: pc@... (Paul Colton)
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 2:44 am
Subject: Re: JRun hates Chinese
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We'll look into this right away.

Can you send me via private email (pc@...) a sample servlet
with chinese characters in it?

At 08:54 PM 4/15/98 +0800, you wrote:
>I use the jrunssi servlet, but it seem will "eat"
>the hight bye value in the double byes word
>encoding(Big5)and shows incorrect code, why ?
>does JRun support Internationalization, or NOT??
>can anybody that comes from other double bytes
>language country (japan, simple chinese , or Korea)can tell me
>how to solve this problem??


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#19 From: "Jen Hsien Huang" <u5321007@...>
Date: Wed Apr 15, 1998 12:54 pm
Subject: JRun hates Chinese
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I use the jrunssi servlet, but it seem will "eat"
the hight bye value in the double byes word
encoding(Big5)and shows incorrect code, why ?
does JRun support Internationalization, or NOT??
can anybody that comes from other double bytes
language country (japan, simple chinese , or Korea)can tell me
how to solve this problem??

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#18 From: pc@... (Paul Colton)
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 10:48 pm
Subject: RE: JRun is free, but is it distributable?
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You can contact us at sales@....

At 02:49 PM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
>So if I want to include it with a product, can I do this by paying a
>licensing fee?  Or can I not bundle it at all?  Who do I talk to about
>bundling?
>
>Thanks,
>Tauren
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Colton [mailto:pc@...]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 12:48 PM
>> To: jrun-interest@...
>> Subject: Re: JRun is free, but is it distributable?
>>
>>
>> JRun is not free for redistribution.
>>
>> We're in the business of providing excellent quality servlet tools and
>> technologies. In order to continue this service, we must generate revenue,
>> as any company does to survive.
>>
>> With almost one year of effort into JRun, it is quickly becoming a very
>> powerful and sophisticated application. JRun adds a lot of value to any
>> product that would bundle it.
>>
>> Information on the Pro version will be online shortly. Like most products
>> on the market today, you cannot redistribute or bundle it without
>> licensing.
>>
>> At 11:53 AM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
>> >If I create a servlet based solution for my clients, and I am relying on
>> >JRun to provide servlet capabilities on their IIS, Netscape, or Apache
>> >server, can I distribute JRun with my product?  Or do I have to have the
>> >client download and install JRun separately?
>> >
>> >I would like to be able to provide one installation program that
>> the client
>> >can use to install my product.  JRun would be automatically
>> installed (if it
>> >wasn't already present) by this installer as well.
>> >
>> >What is this Pro version?  What additional features will it
>> have?  How much
>> >will it cost?  Will it be distributable?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Tauren
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Paul Colton [mailto:pc@...]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 11:22 AM
>> >> To: jrun-interest@...
>> >> Cc: don.winston@...
>> >> Subject: Re: Alternatives to JRun
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> JRun adds servlets capability to your existing web server,
>> whether is be
>> >> WebSite Pro, IIS, Netscape, or Apache.
>> >>
>> >> It is not a Java based web server, but rather relies on the existing
>> >> infrastructure.
>> >>
>> >> Live Software will also be releasing a professional version of
>> JRun soon
>> >> that will not be free but will include new features.
>> >>
>> >> At 02:16 PM 4/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
>> >> >Maybe this is not the place to ask this but since Jrun is "free"
>> >> I thought
>> >> >maybe it'd be ok. What other ways are there to implement servlets with
>> >> >a web server other then a complete Java based web server?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ____________________________________________________________
>> >> Paul Colton                      Live Software, Inc.
>> >> 5703 Oberlin Drive, Suite 208    http://www.livesoftware.com
>> >> San Diego, CA 92121              pc@...
>> >>
>> >> ==================================================================
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>> San Diego, CA 92121              pc@...
>>
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#17 From: "Tauren Mills" <tauren@...>
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 9:49 pm
Subject: RE: JRun is free, but is it distributable?
tauren@...
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So if I want to include it with a product, can I do this by paying a
licensing fee?  Or can I not bundle it at all?  Who do I talk to about
bundling?

Thanks,
Tauren

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Colton [mailto:pc@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 12:48 PM
> To: jrun-interest@...
> Subject: Re: JRun is free, but is it distributable?
>
>
> JRun is not free for redistribution.
>
> We're in the business of providing excellent quality servlet tools and
> technologies. In order to continue this service, we must generate revenue,
> as any company does to survive.
>
> With almost one year of effort into JRun, it is quickly becoming a very
> powerful and sophisticated application. JRun adds a lot of value to any
> product that would bundle it.
>
> Information on the Pro version will be online shortly. Like most products
> on the market today, you cannot redistribute or bundle it without
> licensing.
>
> At 11:53 AM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >If I create a servlet based solution for my clients, and I am relying on
> >JRun to provide servlet capabilities on their IIS, Netscape, or Apache
> >server, can I distribute JRun with my product?  Or do I have to have the
> >client download and install JRun separately?
> >
> >I would like to be able to provide one installation program that
> the client
> >can use to install my product.  JRun would be automatically
> installed (if it
> >wasn't already present) by this installer as well.
> >
> >What is this Pro version?  What additional features will it
> have?  How much
> >will it cost?  Will it be distributable?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Tauren
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Paul Colton [mailto:pc@...]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 11:22 AM
> >> To: jrun-interest@...
> >> Cc: don.winston@...
> >> Subject: Re: Alternatives to JRun
> >>
> >>
> >> JRun adds servlets capability to your existing web server,
> whether is be
> >> WebSite Pro, IIS, Netscape, or Apache.
> >>
> >> It is not a Java based web server, but rather relies on the existing
> >> infrastructure.
> >>
> >> Live Software will also be releasing a professional version of
> JRun soon
> >> that will not be free but will include new features.
> >>
> >> At 02:16 PM 4/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >Maybe this is not the place to ask this but since Jrun is "free"
> >> I thought
> >> >maybe it'd be ok. What other ways are there to implement servlets with
> >> >a web server other then a complete Java based web server?
> >>
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________________
> >> Paul Colton                      Live Software, Inc.
> >> 5703 Oberlin Drive, Suite 208    http://www.livesoftware.com
> >> San Diego, CA 92121              pc@...
> >>
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#16 From: webpro <webpro@...>
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: Servlet classes
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>What Version of the jdk does JRUN Support Can i use jdk 1.2 beta and
the
>included servlet packages or do i need to stick with the JSDK and the
1.1
>version?
Actually this question goes to one of mine. I develop my java in
Codewarrior on a Macintosh.
How should I go about getting the Javax standard extension into
Codewarrior.? Right now it complanes that the Javax.servlet ect classes
aren't found. Are these in Jrun.jar that Jrun installed on my Nt server?
What is the correct way to get Codewarrior to recognize them. Do I just
add Jrun.jar to my class list? Or do i need to get the classes from sun?

Thanks,
Allan greenier

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#15 From: ronel@... (Ronel Sumibcay)
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 8:16 pm
Subject: RE:
ronel@...
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At 01:08 PM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
>So i Should be able to compile with the 1.2 javac and be ok?
>
> 				 Thanks
>

Correct.


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#14 From: "Scott Anderson" <scott@...>
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 8:08 pm
Subject: RE:
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So i Should be able to compile with the 1.2 javac and be ok?

						 Thanks

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Colton [mailto:pc@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 12:38 PM
> To: jrun-interest@...
> Subject: Re:
>
>
> JRun comes bundled with the servlet classes from jdk 1.2 beta.
>
> At 11:28 AM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >What Version of the jdk does JRUN Support Can i use jdk 1.2 beta and the
> >included servlet packages or do i need to stick with the JSDK and the 1.1
> >version?
> >
> > 		 Thanks
> >
> >                                  Scott Anderson
> >                                       Scott@...
> >
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#13 From: pc@... (Paul Colton)
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 7:48 pm
Subject: Re: JRun is free, but is it distributable?
pc@...
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JRun is not free for redistribution.

We're in the business of providing excellent quality servlet tools and
technologies. In order to continue this service, we must generate revenue,
as any company does to survive.

With almost one year of effort into JRun, it is quickly becoming a very
powerful and sophisticated application. JRun adds a lot of value to any
product that would bundle it.

Information on the Pro version will be online shortly. Like most products
on the market today, you cannot redistribute or bundle it without licensing.

At 11:53 AM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
>If I create a servlet based solution for my clients, and I am relying on
>JRun to provide servlet capabilities on their IIS, Netscape, or Apache
>server, can I distribute JRun with my product?  Or do I have to have the
>client download and install JRun separately?
>
>I would like to be able to provide one installation program that the client
>can use to install my product.  JRun would be automatically installed (if it
>wasn't already present) by this installer as well.
>
>What is this Pro version?  What additional features will it have?  How much
>will it cost?  Will it be distributable?
>
>Thanks,
>Tauren
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Colton [mailto:pc@...]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 11:22 AM
>> To: jrun-interest@...
>> Cc: don.winston@...
>> Subject: Re: Alternatives to JRun
>>
>>
>> JRun adds servlets capability to your existing web server, whether is be
>> WebSite Pro, IIS, Netscape, or Apache.
>>
>> It is not a Java based web server, but rather relies on the existing
>> infrastructure.
>>
>> Live Software will also be releasing a professional version of JRun soon
>> that will not be free but will include new features.
>>
>> At 02:16 PM 4/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
>> >Maybe this is not the place to ask this but since Jrun is "free"
>> I thought
>> >maybe it'd be ok. What other ways are there to implement servlets with
>> >a web server other then a complete Java based web server?
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________
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#12 From: pc@... (Paul Colton)
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 7:37 pm
Subject: Re:
pc@...
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JRun comes bundled with the servlet classes from jdk 1.2 beta.

At 11:28 AM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>What Version of the jdk does JRUN Support Can i use jdk 1.2 beta and the
>included servlet packages or do i need to stick with the JSDK and the 1.1
>version?
>
> 		 Thanks
>
>                                  Scott Anderson
>                                       Scott@...
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#11 From: Nathan Tran <nathan_tran2@...>
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: JRun is free, but is it distributable?
nathan_tran2@...
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Tauren,

I think it should be, but right now it's not. :-(



---Tauren Mills <tauren@...> wrote:
>
> If I create a servlet based solution for my clients, and I am
relying on
> JRun to provide servlet capabilities on their IIS, Netscape, or Apache
> server, can I distribute JRun with my product?  Or do I have to have
the
> client download and install JRun separately?
>
> I would like to be able to provide one installation program that the
client
> can use to install my product.  JRun would be automatically
installed (if it
> wasn't already present) by this installer as well.
>
> What is this Pro version?  What additional features will it have?
How much
> will it cost?  Will it be distributable?
>
> Thanks,
> Tauren
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Colton [mailto:pc@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 11:22 AM
> > To: jrun-interest@...
> > Cc: don.winston@...
> > Subject: Re: Alternatives to JRun
> >
> >
> > JRun adds servlets capability to your existing web server, whether
is be
> > WebSite Pro, IIS, Netscape, or Apache.
> >
> > It is not a Java based web server, but rather relies on the existing
> > infrastructure.
> >
> > Live Software will also be releasing a professional version of
JRun soon
> > that will not be free but will include new features.
> >
> > At 02:16 PM 4/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Maybe this is not the place to ask this but since Jrun is "free"
> > I thought
> > >maybe it'd be ok. What other ways are there to implement servlets
with
> > >a web server other then a complete Java based web server?
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________
> > Paul Colton                      Live Software, Inc.
> > 5703 Oberlin Drive, Suite 208    http://www.livesoftware.com
> > San Diego, CA 92121              pc@...
> >
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#10 From: "Tauren Mills" <tauren@...>
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 6:53 pm
Subject: JRun is free, but is it distributable?
tauren@...
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If I create a servlet based solution for my clients, and I am relying on
JRun to provide servlet capabilities on their IIS, Netscape, or Apache
server, can I distribute JRun with my product?  Or do I have to have the
client download and install JRun separately?

I would like to be able to provide one installation program that the client
can use to install my product.  JRun would be automatically installed (if it
wasn't already present) by this installer as well.

What is this Pro version?  What additional features will it have?  How much
will it cost?  Will it be distributable?

Thanks,
Tauren


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Colton [mailto:pc@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 1998 11:22 AM
> To: jrun-interest@...
> Cc: don.winston@...
> Subject: Re: Alternatives to JRun
>
>
> JRun adds servlets capability to your existing web server, whether is be
> WebSite Pro, IIS, Netscape, or Apache.
>
> It is not a Java based web server, but rather relies on the existing
> infrastructure.
>
> Live Software will also be releasing a professional version of JRun soon
> that will not be free but will include new features.
>
> At 02:16 PM 4/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Maybe this is not the place to ask this but since Jrun is "free"
> I thought
> >maybe it'd be ok. What other ways are there to implement servlets with
> >a web server other then a complete Java based web server?
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________
> Paul Colton                      Live Software, Inc.
> 5703 Oberlin Drive, Suite 208    http://www.livesoftware.com
> San Diego, CA 92121              pc@...
>
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#9 From: "Scott Anderson" <scott@...>
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 6:28 pm
Subject: (No subject)
scott@...
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What Version of the jdk does JRUN Support Can i use jdk 1.2 beta and the
included servlet packages or do i need to stick with the JSDK and the 1.1
version?

				 Thanks

                                   Scott Anderson
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#8 From: pc@... (Paul Colton)
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 6:27 pm
Subject: JRun Interest Archive
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There is now an archive of this list available at:

	 http://www.findmail.com/listsaver/jrun-interest/

You can search and sort all of the messages that will be posted on this
mailing list.


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#7 From: pc@... (Paul Colton)
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 6:24 pm
Subject: Re: Form to email
pc@...
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JRun 2.1 Pro will be including the entire Servlet Pack One with source code
which includes an email servlet. There will be an upgrade price for users
of WebSite Pro and WebSTAR.

Otherwise, you can use Servlet Pack One's email servlet.

At 02:10 PM 4/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>First I talked with paul Colton yesterday and he was quite helpful in
>getting Jrun up and running here. So thanks mucho for your help. Jrun is
>a beautiful product.
>
>Can someone point me to some Forms to Email servlet solutions? There was
>a good one in JavaPro magazine but the code is incomplete--it's form
>parsing was fine but it's missing the part to send the data as Email.
>Thanks in advance.
>Allan Greenier
>http://www.webpro@omega.com


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#6 From: pc@... (Paul Colton)
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: Alternatives to JRun
pc@...
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JRun adds servlets capability to your existing web server, whether is be
WebSite Pro, IIS, Netscape, or Apache.

It is not a Java based web server, but rather relies on the existing
infrastructure.

Live Software will also be releasing a professional version of JRun soon
that will not be free but will include new features.

At 02:16 PM 4/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Maybe this is not the place to ask this but since Jrun is "free" I thought
>maybe it'd be ok. What other ways are there to implement servlets with
>a web server other then a complete Java based web server?


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#5 From: Don Winston <don.winston@...>
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 6:16 pm
Subject: Alternatives to JRun
don.winston@...
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Maybe this is not the place to ask this but since Jrun is "free" I thought
maybe it'd be ok. What other ways are there to implement servlets with
a web server other then a complete Java based web server?
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#4 From: webpro <webpro@...>
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 7:10 pm
Subject: Re: Form to email
webpro@...
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Hi,
First I talked with paul Colton yesterday and he was quite helpful in
getting Jrun up and running here. So thanks mucho for your help. Jrun is
a beautiful product.

Can someone point me to some Forms to Email servlet solutions? There was
a good one in JavaPro magazine but the code is incomplete--it's form
parsing was fine but it's missing the part to send the data as Email.
Thanks in advance.
Allan Greenier
http://www.webpro@omega.com



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#3 From: pc@... (Paul Colton)
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: Dynamic reload of servlet
pc@...
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Here is the source code to a complete, do nothing Security Manager. Start
with this and read the Java docs on how each method can restrict access to
that particular capability.

import java.net.*;
import java.io.*;
import java.lang.*;

public class MyCustomSecurityManager extends SecurityManager {
     public void checkCreateClassLoader() { }
     public void checkAccess(Thread g) { }
     public void checkAccess(ThreadGroup g) { }
     public void checkExit(int status) { }
     public void checkExec(String cmd) { }
     public void checkLink(String lib) { }
     public void checkRead(FileDescriptor fd) { }
     public void checkRead(String file) { }
     public void checkRead(String file, Object context) { }
     public void checkWrite(FileDescriptor fd) { }
     public void checkWrite(String file) { }
     public void checkDelete(String file) { }
     public void checkConnect(String host, int port) { }
     public void checkConnect(String host, int port, Object context) { }
     public void checkListen(int port) { }
     public void checkAccept(String host, int port) { }
     public void checkMulticast(InetAddress maddr) { }
     public void checkMulticast(InetAddress maddr, byte ttl) { }
     public void checkPropertiesAccess() { }
     public void checkPropertyAccess(String key) { }
     public void checkPropertyAccess(String key, String def) { }
     public boolean checkTopLevelWindow(Object window) { return true; }
     public void checkPrintJobAccess() { }
     public void checkSystemClipboardAccess() { }
     public void checkAwtEventQueueAccess() { }
     public void checkPackageAccess(String pkg) { }
     public void checkPackageDefinition(String pkg) { }

     public void checkSetFactory() { }
     public void checkMemberAccess(Class clazz, int which) { }
     public void checkSecurityAccess(String provider) { }
}


At 10:52 AM 4/14/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Hello:
>
>Can you point me to some documentation or examples?  I'm not sure I can do
>it without a jump start.
>Thanks,
>Mike H.



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#2 From: Michael Hogarth <mahogarth@...>
Date: Tue Apr 14, 1998 9:52 am
Subject: Re: Dynamic reload of servlet
mahogarth@...
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Hello:

Can you point me to some documentation or examples?  I'm not sure I can do
it without a jump start.
Thanks,
Mike H.


At 10:28 AM 4/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
>You need to create a security manager that turns on/off what you want. You
>can then install this security manager into JRun using the JRunAdmin.
>
>A future release of JRun will make the built-in security manager more
>customizable, but for now, you'll have to write once yourself. It is not to
>bad.
>
>At 08:48 AM 4/14/98 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>>Does anyone know how to implement the "security" features in servlets. For
>>example, how to prevent a servlet from reading/writing to portions of a
>>hard drive that are deemed "off limits".
>>
>>The only references to the 'servlet sandbox' come from Sun's JWS
>>documentation. There are no examples. In addition, the only discussion
>>provided has to do with security restrictions established in very general
>>terms (trusted versus untrusted).  The only way to restrict servlets in
>>terms of reading/writing to the drive is to dissallow it completely by
>>forcing the servlet to be loaded over a network connection. This seems
>>stupid at best and I must be missing "the big picture".
>>
>>If I am right, maybe Livesoftware can implement finer granularity into the
>>security scheme through Jrun...
>>
>>--Mike Hogarth
>>
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