... There is no JSON2. json2.js is a JSON library for JavaScript. JSON has not changed. It is still the language that is described at http://www.JSON.org/ and...
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Mark Joseph
markjoseph_sc
Aug 7, 2009 6:27 pm
Thanks, but I don't see date strings referenced on the www.json.org site. There are a lot of different Date formats like RFC822 and the ISO standard. And there...
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Douglas Crockford
douglascrock...
Aug 7, 2009 6:30 pm
... JSON has nothing to say about dates. You are on your own....
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Andrea Giammarchi
an_red...
Aug 7, 2009 6:38 pm
Open minded, uh? ... definition of these Da... There is no JSON2. json2.js is a JSON library for JavaScript. JSON has not changed. It is still the language...
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Mark Joseph
markjoseph_sc
Aug 7, 2009 6:38 pm
So these JSON parse functions for Dates are just utility functions available for use to help parse data in Javascript? What purpose does this discussion...
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Kris Zyp
kriszyp
Aug 7, 2009 6:40 pm
... standard. ... so are ... As Crockford pointed out, there is no normative definition, but with json2.js, IE8, FF3.5 (and others I'm sure) all serializing JS...
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John Cowan
johnwcowan
Aug 7, 2009 7:08 pm
... JSON is about as likely to change as ASCII, RS-232, or the Unix "cal" program. -- John Cowan cowan@... http://ccil.org/~cowan No man is an island,...
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Arthur Blake
blakesys
Aug 7, 2009 7:14 pm
If there was a reliable and robust Date literal as part of the JS language,when JSON was defined, maybe JSON itself would handle Dates, but there wasn't and...
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Mark S. Miller
capsecure
Aug 7, 2009 7:17 pm
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Andrea Giammarchi < ... I have often said to Crock that one of JSON's great virtues is the absence of any ability to version...
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Kris Zyp
kriszyp
Aug 7, 2009 7:33 pm
... would ... Just to be clear, I wasn't arguing that the spec needed to be updated. I was just pointing out there is general agreement in the community on how...
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Martin Cooper
mfncooper
Aug 7, 2009 7:45 pm
... Not versioning the spec is one thing, but I *really* wish json2.js was under version control instead of new versions just replacing old ones on the ...
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Arthur Blake
blakesys
Aug 7, 2009 7:58 pm
I would like to see all of the Crockford utilities (jsmin, jslint, json2.js, org.json java classes, etc.) somewhere under version control as I have so many...
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Mark Joseph
markjoseph_sc
Aug 7, 2009 7:58 pm
Standards are not static, things change. If I want to support ISO date encoded in a string I have to take a performance hit because now my parser has to first...
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Mark Joseph
markjoseph_sc
Aug 7, 2009 8:22 pm
From: Andrea Giammarchi [mailto:andrea.giammarchi@...] To: json@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:50:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [json] Re: Why we have...
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Andrea Giammarchi
an_red...
Aug 7, 2009 11:25 pm
So if basis could be bettere, let's adapt everything else based on not-perfect basis, right? I am a developer, enterprise one, I spot a performances problem, I...
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Tatu Saloranta
cowtowncoder
Aug 8, 2009 3:36 am
... Not necessarily, and not arbitrarily. They should change iff there is a new revision of the standard. ... Not necessarily. Incremental parsers can wait...
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Mark Joseph
markjoseph_sc
Aug 8, 2009 4:02 am
Well you can fight this all you want, but to me it looks like the browser writers have changed the specification anyway out of need. Best, Mark Joseph, Ph.D. ...
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Andrea Giammarchi
an_red...
Aug 8, 2009 1:08 pm
There are much bigger fish to try like what? Since Dates are a loose type in a protocol that does not define them but is manages them somehow? Dates are the...
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Andrea Giammarchi
an_red...
Aug 11, 2009 8:07 pm
I wrote a page days ago which aim is to demonstrate there was nothing hypothetical: http://www.3site.eu/jstests/json/ Would be nice to receive an answer or a...
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Jakob Kruse
thekrucible
Aug 11, 2009 8:20 pm
Andrea, I fail to understand what exactly you aim to prove on that page, but that is besides the point. You seem to argue that special features (incorporating...
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Andrea Giammarchi
an_red...
Aug 11, 2009 10:46 pm
... Douglas blamed me for hypothetical assumptions about performances improvements, I've simply demonstrated those were not assumptions. My point is: how...
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Michal Migurski
michal_migurski
Aug 12, 2009 3:50 am
... Says who? I use it to communicate amongst Javascript, PHP, and Python. I have no need for or interest in an update to the JSON spec - it is, as others on...
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Fang Yidong
fangyidong
Aug 12, 2009 5:05 am
Hi Andrea, I don't think there is an "official"; JSON parser, neither it will "dictate" anything. I think you can consider it as a reference implementation if...
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gearond@...
gearond...
Aug 12, 2009 5:11 am
The best scenario for the most concise and easy encapsulation would be SQL brand specific objects holding text or binary data, totally transparent without...
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Andrea Giammarchi
an_red...
Aug 12, 2009 12:46 pm
OK guys, I've got your point. About "dictating" it was what Douglas said: ES5 and every browser are going to implement json2.js serializer/unserializer API. ...
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Martin Cooper
mfncooper
Aug 12, 2009 4:27 pm
Fang is correct that there is no "official"; JSON parser, and also that json2.js could be considered a reference implementation (RI). Since Douglas unilaterally...
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Andrea Giammarchi
an_red...
Aug 12, 2009 5:24 pm
I have created dunno how many JSON open source parsers but json2.js is apparently frequently updated and being the "unofficial" standard adopted by most recent...
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Douglas Crockford
douglascrock...
Aug 12, 2009 5:34 pm
JSON is completely unencumbered. There are no registration, licensing, or usage requirements or restrictions. You are free to write your own software or to use...
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Andrea Giammarchi
an_red...
Aug 12, 2009 5:57 pm
I will. Regards On Aug 12, 2009 6:34 PM, "Douglas Crockford" <douglas@...> wrote: JSON is completely unencumbered. There are no registration,...
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Martin Cooper
mfncooper
Aug 12, 2009 6:04 pm
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Andrea Giammarchi < ... I think you just answered your own question. The reason you, or I, or someone else, would create a...
