There is a new implementation of JSON in Python. See http://undefined.org/python/#simple_json...
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Douglas Crockford
douglascrock...
Jan 3, 2006 4:38 pm
... I would like to understand your intentions. Where commentary is important, it can be encoded directly in JSON, where the outermost object resembles a COBOL...
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Anthony Mouse
anthony.mouse
Jan 3, 2006 4:54 pm
What is the future of JSON? Yahoo is now supporting JSON for their WebServices - is that because Douglas Crockford works for Yahoo? What is the status of...
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MPCM
mpcmtechnolo...
Jan 3, 2006 5:00 pm
You may want to look through these messages of the group. I'm fairly certain everyone here would say it has a future, even without Yahoo in the picture. -- ...
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ingliss
Jan 3, 2006 5:20 pm
I don't expect this to apply to many people, and I'm not remarking on it as a shortcoming of JSON (because it clearly isn't), this is just for information: ...
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ingliss
Jan 3, 2006 5:30 pm
Is there any reason why this is used: function e(s) { a[a.length] = s; } rather than function e(s) { a.push(s); } ? I don't suppose it makes much difference in...
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Jim Washington
jimcburg
Jan 3, 2006 6:00 pm
... It can be useful to comment-out sections of hand-coded JSON for development/testing, and to have inline human-readable comments about what is going on. A...
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Atif Aziz
azizatif
Jan 3, 2006 6:39 pm
Jim has said it sweetly what pretty much everyone has been saying on this thread (perhaps just in too many words). He's also hit my points right on. ... If...
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Douglas Crockford
douglascrock...
Jan 3, 2006 6:43 pm
... This question is way off topic for this group. This group is about JSON, not JavaScript coding. But to answer your question, the first form is slightly...
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Martin Cooper
mfncooper
Jan 3, 2006 6:49 pm
... It's a shame that neither the previous version nor the current version aren't versioned... ;-) -- Martin Cooper (luckily I have a copy on disk) or that the...
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Douglas Crockford
douglascrock...
Jan 3, 2006 6:53 pm
... because Douglas Crockford works for Yahoo? What is the status of http://JSON.Org (it now re-directs to http://www.crockford.com/JSON/ ) and what is...
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MPCM
mpcmtechnolo...
Jan 3, 2006 7:03 pm
I think the real crux of this is simply, you cannot create a json format string through encoding from existing data that would contain comments (IIRC). It is...
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Martin Cooper
mfncooper
Jan 3, 2006 7:24 pm
... Huh? If I'm writing an encoder that takes a Java data structure and encodes it into JSON, it would make perfect sense to me to generate comments (in ...
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Dave Balmer
dbalmerjr
Jan 3, 2006 7:58 pm
I'll jump in here and say that even a draconian syntax like XML (arguably the most used data stream format on the planet) supports comments. The whole point of...
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Douglas Crockford
douglascrock...
Jan 3, 2006 8:22 pm
... encodes ... encoded. So, ... encoding ... Why would you do that? What expectation do you have of the receiver? Why waste the bandwidth? What, specifically,...
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f3l
kyoosho
Jan 3, 2006 8:40 pm
... debug information is *IN*valuable , for us weak-minded developers that cant guess whats being passed back and forth, i use html comments in lots of...
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Martin Cooper
mfncooper
Jan 3, 2006 9:33 pm
... In this specific example, I might choose to do this because multiple Java types map to the same JSON type, and it could help me a lot with identifying ...
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ingliss
Jan 4, 2006 12:17 am
... Hmmm. Well, if you say so, but I'd rather taken my lead as to relevance from the post where you discuss Javascript efficiency in the parse function :-) ......
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Atif Aziz
azizatif
Jan 4, 2006 12:24 am
I am completely stumped. Did the rest of my message not present the cases? Do HTML, XML and YAML or just about any text format not acknowledge the utility of...
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Atif Aziz
azizatif
Jan 4, 2006 12:39 am
I think Martin's response (#177 [1]) has addressed most points so I just want to add one thing simply. Given any text format, comments are just about as useful...
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Atif Aziz
azizatif
Jan 4, 2006 12:54 am
... As I said, I have a sneaking hunch that the real issue stems from tying JSON to YAML. With the comments debate generating some traffic, I feel less daring...
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Dave Balmer
dbalmerjr
Jan 4, 2006 1:41 am
I do have to say, unless I've missed something big in the thread, the only thing I see keeping comment support *out* of the new version is "because". As in...
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Douglas Crockford
douglascrock...
Jan 4, 2006 1:59 am
JSON has a string notation which is similar to that used in the C family languages. Strings are bounded by double quote characters. Escapement is provided by...
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Martin Cooper
mfncooper
Jan 4, 2006 6:39 am
... These statements have me really wondering about what JSON is supposed to be. The reasoning behind removing comments was that it would "more closely align ...
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Douglas Crockford
douglascrock...
Jan 4, 2006 2:01 pm
... That is correct. JSON is a text format that is completely language independent but uses conventions that are familiar to programmers of the C-family of ...
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George
georgenava
Jan 4, 2006 3:04 pm
I agree 100% with you. Do as I do and use Javascript Object Literals as they are specified in the Javascript or ECMAScript Reference. Anything the JS parser...
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Michal Migurski
michal_migurski
Jan 4, 2006 3:28 pm
... Beginning to? I thought this was the idea all along? Syntax that's valid Javascript, Python, and easy to write parsers for other languages. I'm already...
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Martin Cooper
mfncooper
Jan 4, 2006 4:53 pm
... Then can you please explain why it is called JavaScript Object Notation? -- Martin Cooper but uses ... [Non-text portions of this message have been...
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Douglas Crockford
douglascrock...
Jan 4, 2006 6:48 pm
... JSON is based on a subset of the JavaScript Programming Language, Standard ECMA-262 3rd Edition - December 1999. See http://www.JSON.org/...
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Peter Ring
peter17ring
Jan 5, 2006 8:25 am
Funny thing is, YAML was designed for human consumption as much as a language-neutral serializing format. And JSON's ancestry (JavaScript) is more in the LISP...
