... The current datasheet states that using Agitator is more effective than writing tests manually. If I remember correctly, an earlier version more directly...
16780
vgreddy43
Jun 1, 2006 10:18 am
If we are not able to comment our test methods in suite, we have scroll our Test case from top to bottom to comment each test method using @Ignore, this is not...
16781
Elliotte Harold
elharo@...
Jun 1, 2006 10:59 am
... The system did not work just fine. As you point out, developers would not and could not operate this way. This wasn't a problem with your developers. It...
16782
Elliotte Harold
elharo@...
Jun 1, 2006 11:34 am
... Interesting post. One of the no-design-by-contract cases you mention there is "The update of an internal XML representation." Actually XOM uses design by...
16783
Robert Martin
rmartinoma
Jun 1, 2006 12:46 pm
I'm having a devil of a time understanding the code below as Java. What am I missing? ... Robert C. Martin (Uncle Bob) | email: unclebob@... ...
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Robert Martin
rmartinoma
Jun 1, 2006 12:55 pm
... Consider the sponsored link that appears when you do a google search on Agitar: "Don't just automate test execution Automate Java test creation" ... Robert...
16785
Robert Martin
rmartinoma
Jun 1, 2006 2:34 pm
... I am quite convinced that test-first is a good approach to a huge majority of software situations. It is my default position. When, as very rarely...
16786
Jon Barrilleaux
jonbarril
Jun 1, 2006 3:18 pm
I wasn't planning to automate the generation. What I am finding is that there are a many compile cases to be tested but not so many as that they would need to...
16787
Ilja Preuss
ipreussde
Jun 1, 2006 4:35 pm
... The introduction of generics in Java 5, perhaps? Or what exactly do you have problems with? Regards, Ilja...
16788
jonbarril
Jun 1, 2006 6:23 pm
The code is a straightforward combination of Java 1.5 generics with the delegation pattern. In this case, the delegation is "public" delegation, where the...
16789
albsavoia
Jun 1, 2006 11:41 pm
... Automation does not imply lack of human involvement - perhaps "full automation" does. But we never used that term. The most effective and common form of...
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Robert Martin
rmartinoma
Jun 2, 2006 1:47 am
... Do you think that a tool like Agitar would be useful in those situations where TDD is not? I have trouble with this because if Agitar can make...
16791
Robert Martin
rmartinoma
Jun 2, 2006 1:50 am
... It's not fine with me. In the end, if a developer can show me that s/ he's got very high test coverage, then I'd accept the effort. But I'd also strongly...
16792
cchaulk
Jun 2, 2006 5:05 am
Thanks Kent. Someone from my company should be contacting you shortly. Chris ... and able to ... agreement, "A ... form under ... terms. ... is ... patent ... ...
16793
suresh vittal
vg_suresh
Jun 2, 2006 5:05 am
Hi, I need some information regarding JUnit. All I have heard is that JUnit can and is used widely for unit testing the JAVA code. Can the JUnit be used to...
16794
Cédric Beust
cbeust
Jun 2, 2006 5:36 am
... Yes, and for that reason, I don't think Agitar will make a code base "more TDD-able" if that code base doesn't have this quality in the first place. ...
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Cédric Beust
cbeust
Jun 2, 2006 5:45 am
... That's a bit extreme, but not contradictory with what I said earlier. I can't really think of any project I worked on where I knew deep inside that 100% of...
16796
Elliotte Harold
elharo@...
Jun 2, 2006 11:49 am
... Perhaps that depends on what you define as TDD. When faced with a large legacy code base with no tests, I will still write a test before introducing a new...
16797
tlroche
Jun 2, 2006 12:26 pm
how are you? i send the details. OK ? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
16798
twall
timothyrwall
Jun 2, 2006 12:52 pm
... Google "java gui junit". You will turn up a variety of options. See also the yahoo group "java-gui-testing"....
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Carl Hume
carl_hume
Jun 2, 2006 2:47 pm
... Just a slight disagreement here - I would suggest that TDD is quite relevant if the QA department is augmenting the automated unit tests. In my ...
16800
albsavoia
Jun 2, 2006 4:12 pm
... Hi Cedric, good to see you too - we should follow-up on that plan we talked about well over a year ago and meet in person. ... Well said. There are obvious...
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Pat Farrell
pat22043
Jun 2, 2006 4:38 pm
Hi, I've got about 250 JUnit tests so far for my little system, and it is working great. But.... I've got two flavors to test. one with a real JDCB database ...
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James P Gunderson
jpg3u
Jun 2, 2006 5:38 pm
I am not a testing guru, but I (and our small company) try to be professional. As part of that our goal is to never release code that is untested, and we use...
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James P Gunderson
jpg3u
Jun 2, 2006 5:42 pm
Pat: We have an equivalent issue, which we solved by specifying the data source in a config file. We have two test sets, one running the tests against the test...
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Elliotte Harold
elharo@...
Jun 2, 2006 5:50 pm
... Sounds like it's time to refactor so this isn't a problem. Make it a runtime configurable option, instead of something controlled by a property file....
16805
Pat Farrell
pat22043
Jun 2, 2006 5:56 pm
... You seem to be missing the key question, which is not how to control the switch, but how to get JUnit to automatically execute all of the tests twice. -- ...
16806
Elliotte Harold
elharo@...
Jun 2, 2006 5:57 pm
... No. It's not a trivial or unimportant difference. testing first is radically different than testing last. It is not just about testing. It is about...
16807
Cédric Beust
cbeust
Jun 2, 2006 5:57 pm
... It seems to me that the use of a property file makes it a runtime configurable option: just launch your test by pointing them to a different property...
16808
Pat Farrell
pat22043
Jun 2, 2006 6:03 pm
... Right, it is runtime, different bundle, shell argument, etc. are all isomorphic. ... OK, probably a dumb question, what is a test group? Got a URL so I can...
