Here's an approach I've tried to convince management of the benefit of object level unit tests. I don't know if it has worked yet, and I welcome suggestions...
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Kent Beck
kentlbeck
Oct 2, 2006 4:19 am
David, Jason, and all: Thank you for the suggestion. I have checked in a change to handle this. The test case is: @Test public void...
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David Saff
dsaff
Oct 2, 2006 1:12 pm
... Because it seems that there are two different, but related, things that the original poster wanted to test: 1) Given that the comparison routine is...
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Jason Rogers
jacaetev
Oct 2, 2006 3:22 pm
That seems sufficient to me. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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putnam_david_t
Oct 2, 2006 4:08 pm
So the intent of assertEquals(a,b) is to be equivalent to assertTrue(a.equals(b)). ... according ... if they ... contents. ... bad idea. ... generate....
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Mike Foley
mike_foley_0...
Oct 2, 2006 7:59 pm
I was working on sending my JUnit tests results from a suite of SOA soap service tests over to Mercury QualityCenter, as QC seems a central repository for test...
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j_cumps
Oct 3, 2006 9:11 am
<controversial> I'm still not convinced of the economics of unit testing at the lowest level. I've been lurking this list for quite some time, attended online...
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David Saff
dsaff
Oct 3, 2006 1:01 pm
Jan, Thanks for being willing to say something controversial. Let me be sure I'm understanding you. Are you saying one of these two things, or a third thing...
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Simon Chappell
spchappell
Oct 3, 2006 1:23 pm
... He he he. Go for it. :-) ... Gotta love theory ... right up until reality smacks it upside the head. ... Now you're talking. ... Me too. ... Yup. ... Of...
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j_cumps
Oct 3, 2006 5:53 pm
... sure ... a ... requirements, They need to test that their unit meets the requirement. ... Indeed. ... No. I think this fits in the iterative approach. ... ...
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Michael Sullivan
kupci2
Oct 3, 2006 6:19 pm
Just ran across an article by Brian Goetz with some good tips on testing concurrent code: http://www.artima.com/forums/flat.jsp?forum=276&thread=178345...
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j_cumps
Oct 3, 2006 6:21 pm
Simon, ... and ... head. ... level. ... Yes, they can. ... test ... Some code might just exist because we've written a test for it. ... get a ... very ... I...
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Michael Feathers
mfeathers256
Oct 3, 2006 6:22 pm
... I think that the controversial part of this is that you'd call those system tests "unit tests." Michael Feathers www.objectmentor.com...
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Simon Chappell
spchappell
Oct 3, 2006 10:19 pm
... Bravo. You have cut to the heart of the matter. Oh, and he was also basically suggesting that what *we* call unit tests were too low level to worry about. ...
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J. B. Rainsberger
nails762
Oct 4, 2006 12:40 am
... As fun as it is to debate controversial topics, until either side of the argument can measure the effect of unit testing in some kind of currency unit, the...
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J. B. Rainsberger
nails762
Oct 4, 2006 12:42 am
... Some code might just exist because we've written a requirement for it. This is not a statement about TDD, but rather a statement about removing unneeded...
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j_cumps
Oct 4, 2006 4:57 am
... I'm in the *we* group too. But full of doubts if we're doing the right thing. ... Regards, Jan...
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Joakim Ohlrogge
j0hlrogge
Oct 4, 2006 7:58 am
I read through Bob's post below and I find it a really interesting and good aproach. We often talk about convincing management and it can be frustrating indeed...
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J. B. Rainsberger
nails762
Oct 4, 2006 12:06 pm
... You don't?! I see it all the time. More specifically, I see people acting as though they do /not/ have permission to remove dead code. "If it ain't broke,...
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Uma Maheswara.G
gunipati81
Oct 4, 2006 1:13 pm
Hi Guys, I have joined Junit Groups recently and i am working on Junit test cases. Could please tell me the coding standards for JUNIT Testing. --Cheers, ...
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Simon Chappell
spchappell
Oct 4, 2006 1:39 pm
... Ahhh, an interesting question. Thank you for caring about such things. There are no coding standards for JUnit users. There are various community agreed...
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Joakim Ohlrogge
j0hlrogge
Oct 4, 2006 1:42 pm
... If I think some code needs to be removed I remove it, if I think some code needs to be added I add it, if I think some code needs to be changed I change...
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Simon Chappell
spchappell
Oct 4, 2006 2:17 pm
... Ideally, every developer would do that, but we all know that doesn't happen very often. *snip* ... I want to work where you work. You see, many large...
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Joakim Ohlrogge
j0hlrogge
Oct 4, 2006 2:34 pm
... After this "culture clash" (not that I haven't seen what you describe here either but maybe to a different extent... here it is more like, none lose their...
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Joakim Ohlrogge
j0hlrogge
Oct 4, 2006 2:47 pm
... Yes, those darn project budgets... luckily support and maintainance is free (from the projects perspective) :)...
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Simon Chappell
spchappell
Oct 4, 2006 3:29 pm
... That's the root cause of all our testing problems. After all testing is a fairly well understood activity, so the problems come from the environment in...
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sharma.ashutosh@...
toashutosh
Oct 4, 2006 3:33 pm
Check the following URL.. http://junit.org <http://junit.org/> you will find the sample code too. regards, Ashutosh ________________________________ From:...
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Uma Maheswara.G
gunipati81
Oct 4, 2006 7:42 pm
Simon, Thank you very much :) yes it' true that experience is the right one to get hands on junit. Cheers, Mahesh ... From: Simon Chappell...
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Rutherford, Michael
mrutherfurd
Oct 4, 2006 10:42 pm
... In the system I'm currently working on over half the classes were obsolete, POC or due to projects that hadn't gone "live". Half the object model relates...
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Mike Foley
mike_foley_0...
Oct 4, 2006 11:47 pm
Hi, So all the various assert methods all return void. How would I go about getting a boolean telling me the result of an assert? I need to do something with...
