I've dled the bundle from EMF website however I've no idea how to install it? I've unzipped it and its just a bunch of jar files? I am new to eclipse should I...
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Ole Ersoy
ole_ersoy
Jan 1, 2007 9:53 pm
Hey Mate, Always glad to help. You are right - I tried downloading the sdk, and I got a lot of jars inside the root eclipse directory, along with 8 plugins for...
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bohs01@...
junitheadache
Jan 2, 2007 11:49 am
Hi Ole, I found the update manager on the EMF website, both both URLs i used came up with an error saying the installation is not comptible as i am mising EMF...
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David Saff
dsaff
Jan 2, 2007 3:14 pm
Jimm, It's not clear to me the exact steps you've taken, so I'm not sure how to help you with this specific problem. From a higher-level point of view, what...
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David Saff
dsaff
Jan 2, 2007 3:39 pm
Ole, I'm getting my head around your suggestions. (At least) one thing is tripping me up: ... Do we write this in the first place? Perhaps another example...
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G J Thimothy
johnthimothyg
Jan 2, 2007 3:55 pm
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Mike Bria
bria526
Jan 2, 2007 4:47 pm
... {clip} ... Ole, forgive me if I'm missing your point, but I'm curious why, assuming you even have a valid reason to write the above util method, it is not...
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Ole Ersoy
ole_ersoy
Jan 2, 2007 7:21 pm
Wow - That's really strangeR. Maybe the update manager is trying to find updates compatible with the manual install you did earlier. Try downloading a brand...
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Ole Ersoy
ole_ersoy
Jan 3, 2007 12:46 am
Hey David, I'm going to go over some obvious stuff, which you already know, just for clearity. I tried to start with something really simple that represents...
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Calvin Austin
calvinandblogs
Jan 3, 2007 12:53 am
... There are several great commercial tools that do automated test case creation. Feel free to experiment with testgen4j which is an open source project we...
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David Saff
dsaff
Jan 3, 2007 5:41 am
Ole, I'm not sure I'm any closer to the main point. Let me try to summarize what you're suggesting: * We would like to have methods that are 100% tested *...
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Ole Ersoy
ole_ersoy
Jan 3, 2007 8:39 am
Hey David, ... I like it - Although let me add that it is really important to agree on what 100% means in a well structured / unambiguous context. ... Sure -...
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Cédric Beust
cbeust
Jan 3, 2007 5:15 pm
... That's a very deceptive statement. Not only is it very hard to reach 100% testing (just because your code coverage claims 100% doesn't mean you are...
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Mike Bria
bria526
Jan 3, 2007 5:24 pm
OIe -- Just curious if you had any comment on my question to you earlier in the chain. Thanks! --MB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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J. B. Rainsberger
nails762
Jan 3, 2007 6:11 pm
... Do you mean "it would be nice if 100% tested code took 0 time"? or that "it should be possible today to have 100% tested code in 0 time"? It seems to me...
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Ole Ersoy
ole_ersoy
Jan 3, 2007 7:22 pm
We first have to agree on what 100% means. I provided a very simple example in the earlier post. The example gives a 100% tested tested method example, given...
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Ole Ersoy
ole_ersoy
Jan 3, 2007 7:35 pm
Mike, Do you mean the part about writing the code first, and then testing or writing the test first and then coding? Let me just suppose that that is it. ...
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Cédric Beust
cbeust
Jan 3, 2007 7:37 pm
... Yes, but your example is too simple since it only contains one branch (most examples extolling the virtues of code coverage have this flaw :-)). 100%...
Mike, Yes, I think you missed my point :-) I was just showing a snippet of code with a few branches. I'm sure you can easily find similar code in your own...
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Ole Ersoy
ole_ersoy
Jan 3, 2007 9:06 pm
OK - This is just about how to install EMF / Eclipse, since Jimm was wondering about it earlier. I did a complete install from scratch. Here my steps: Download...
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Ole Ersoy
ole_ersoy
Jan 3, 2007 9:31 pm
To answer that you would have to analyze the simple example I gave earlier and then show why you think what you just said is accurate. ... ...
... Greetings Cedric, I prefer not to use coverage tools (in fact, I strongly resist characterizing the quality of unit testing with coverage numbers), but ...
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Cédric Beust
cbeust
Jan 3, 2007 10:30 pm
Ole, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with this example, and it seems to me we drifted away from the point that I was making: 100% branch ...
... The question wasn't to figure out whether it can be done (it's a graph traversal problem, we know it can be solved) but to decide whether it's practical to...
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Alexandru Popescu
alexpopescu7...
Jan 4, 2007 12:58 am
... In fact I got the impression that Ole is not gonna start building such a tool, but challenging others to do it for him :-). ./alex -- .w( the_mindstorm )p....
Hey Ole, ... Well, I actually do feel a bit better reading this, since it means you at least have a little idea of what you are up against. It's not NP hard,...
