Good Afternoon All, In Chapter 2, Klein offers several quotations to illustrate the distinctions between logistike and arithmetike. At least one distinction is...
Robert (Bob) E. Taylor
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Sep 2, 2001 5:03 pm
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... In Chapter 2, Klein offers several quotations to illustrate the distinctions between logistike and arithmetike. At least one distinction is clear enough....
bill oates
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Sep 3, 2001 5:22 pm
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I am curious if the following [below] is a correct interpretation of Klein's somewhat convoluted sentence: " ... this study, which will confine itself to the...
Omar Rumi
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Sep 3, 2001 6:51 pm
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... The convoluted language is called Scientific German which is probably the language of choice for obscurant writers. One of my professors quipped to me,...
Robert (Bob) E. Taylor
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Sep 3, 2001 9:41 pm
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bill oates wrote: <<For me, I am not sure anything is clear at the end of chapter 2.> I cannot gainsay that statement. But I do not seem to have made my ...
Robert (Bob) E. Taylor
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Sep 4, 2001 3:09 am
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Hi Bob ... That would be an interesting observation which I will consider. At first blush, I must say that it does not fit with my understanding of logistike, ...
Bill Oates
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Sep 4, 2001 1:27 pm
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Bob Taylor wrote: "But I must quibble with your translation. To my mind 'today almost completely hidden from view' and 'relatively unknown' do not mean the ...
Omar Rumi
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Sep 4, 2001 4:09 pm
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... Mr. Klein was a student of Edmond Husserl. In 1973, near the end of his life, he wrote: "It was Edmund Husserl who, in modern times pointed to this...
jkeyser
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Sep 4, 2001 10:20 pm
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A somewhat less elegant analysis is that one may 'hide' something from view by piling stuff atop. Given when (in the sense of who and where) Klein was writing,...
Ed Wall
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Sep 5, 2001 12:16 am
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Hi Bob
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Bill Oates
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Sep 5, 2001 12:40 pm
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Lee, Bob and all, Heath did write a monograph on Diophantus: T.L. HEATH, Diophantus of Alexandria, a study in the history of Greek Algebra (with a supplement...
ad meskens
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Sep 5, 2001 5:57 pm
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Dear Omar I much appreciated your comments. I too have been "lurking", which in this case feels like a sin. If you let me know your mailing address I would be...
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Sep 5, 2001 5:58 pm
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Bill Oates wrote: <<Might you consider that Olympiodorus does not see the difference as between change and permanent?>> Sure. But are you suggesting that...
Robert (Bob) E. Taylor
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Sep 6, 2001 4:19 am
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see below......... ... This sounds a lot like how Polanyi reads Plato. Did JK mention him or is this from your reading. Cordially, S. Barret Dolph Taipei...
S. Barret Dolph
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Sep 6, 2001 6:43 am
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Good Morning All, I have difficulty with the next to last sentence of Chapter 2. There Klein refers to this statement by Olympiodorous: "For multiplication is...
Robert (Bob) E. Taylor
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Sep 7, 2001 4:57 am
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About Bob Taylor's comment on the penultimate sentence of ch 2. Olympiodorus is certainly obscure, but if read at face value - as Klein seems (I believe...
Dick Tahta
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Sep 7, 2001 12:27 pm
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Hi Bob ... I just don't see Olympiodorus talking about those things. The distinction of between change and permanent may not be something he considers. ... The...
Bill Oates
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Sep 7, 2001 12:31 pm
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Dear Mr. Dolph, I was unaware of Michael Polanyi until recently. There are others on this list who were friends with Jacob Klein and might be able to answer...
j w
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Sep 7, 2001 1:43 pm
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This is the bio at the beginning of Jacob Klein Lectures and Essays: Jacob Klein was born in 1899 in Libau, Russia. He studied at the Universities of Berlin...
j w
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Sep 7, 2001 3:30 pm
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I read, and continue to read, his book on the Meno. The "or this is from your reading" bit simply meant that is how you read Klein. Of course as Polyani and...
S. Barret Dolph
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Sep 7, 2001 4:06 pm
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... I apologise for any ambiguity. My questions were about Olympiodorus Dick Tahta...
Dick Tahta
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Sep 7, 2001 4:35 pm
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Dear Mr. Tahta, Sorry about my confusion. Olympiodorus taught Proclus philosophy. This might be a useful reference: Taylor, Thomas (1758-1835); Plato Works of...
j w
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Sep 7, 2001 8:15 pm
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... He seems to be obscure non-mathemtically. EB has only a short unsigned entry: <quote> Olympiodorus should not be confused with the Peripatetic of the same...
Robert (Bob) E. Taylor
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Sep 8, 2001 12:12 am
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Bob Taylor asks, "How untenable? How clearly?" One may speculate regarding the two statements, the first by Olympiodorus, the second by Klein. First Olymp.:...
Omar Rumi
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Sep 8, 2001 4:50 am
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Omar Rumi wrote: << Alternatively, he may be objecting to the error he finds in Olymp.'s attempt to separate like and unlike numbers. It is also possible Klein...
Robert (Bob) E. Taylor
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Sep 8, 2001 5:49 am
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Friends Just as an observation: Plato’s Parmenides: Parmenides to Aristotle (Loeb Fowler translation: 144a) “Then there would be even times even, odd times...
bill oates
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Sep 8, 2001 2:59 pm
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Bill Oates wrote, "bill oates" <boates1@...> ... left out, which does not>necessarily exist?>By no means." One immediately thinks of the primes, and...
Omar Rumi
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Sep 9, 2001 11:00 am
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Well Euclid treats of the primes, as well as numbers that are prime to each other. Lee...
Lee D Perlman
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Sep 9, 2001 11:05 am
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Omar Rumi wrote: << Plato's Parmenides: Parmenides to Aristotle (Loeb Fowler translation: 144a) "Then there would be even times even, odd times odd, odd times...
Robert (Bob) E. Taylor
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Sep 9, 2001 1:51 pm
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Hi all Well at some risk I would like to move on to chapter 3. In chapter two we have seen some of the proposals put forward by neo-platonists to describe ...