... Dear Mr. Wall, Plato surely wished to know fully those things which assert themselves in our lives, things which we cannot but deal with in one way or...
jkeyser
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Jun 1, 2002 2:53 pm
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J Keyser Actually I'm talking about chapter 5. The situation with children and numbers is more than a little peculiar. Small children, of course, aren't adult...
on 6/1/02 1:41 PM, Ed Wall at ewall@... wrote: Thank you very much for your reply, Mr. Wall. ... In a text contributed to Philosophical Essays in Memory...
jkeyser
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Jun 1, 2002 11:24 pm
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Dear Participants, I have been thinking about the book. But first: Mr. Hopkins, I wish to personally welcome you to this discussion. I also wish to say that I...
jkeyser
key@...
Jun 2, 2002 4:00 pm
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Hi Burt ... Amongst other comments let me focus here - This will be returned to in chapter 6 I believe as I peeked ahead a bit this morning. So I am interested...
Dear J., ... And I, too. ... Thank you for picking up on my attempts to encircle some questions. ... I hear you responding to my suggested presumption that...
George Gregory
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Jun 3, 2002 4:44 pm
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Bill Oates writes: [snip] ... It is not just counting, but counting-off. Counting has several basic meanings: There is the succession of numerals, which can be...
George ... And I should add my personal welcome to all those who who newcomers to the list and encourage those in lurking land to jump into the fray! And of...
Hello Klein group readers & Kalev Pehme: For the most part, I'm talking about zero here, with a few connections back to the Chapter 5 exchanges and the nascent...
Ron Allen
wavelets@...
Jun 5, 2002 3:47 pm
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... Dear Mr. Allen, I would like to see how this works. Parmenides poem was called "Truth." He distinguished the way of truth from the way of opinion. Said...
... You mean, gulp, I am not a Klein group reader? I am apart from the Klein group readers? [snip] ... I am not recapitulating any particular dialogue....
Hello J Keyser: Thank you for reading my post and identifying my erroneous claim that Parmenides got rid of "all knowledge whatsoever." That's wrong. He ...
Ron Allen
wavelets@...
Jun 6, 2002 6:50 am
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Dear Mr. Pehme: No, of course not. In no way did intend to cut you out apart from the Klein group. You're an energetic, dedicated, competent, and veteran ...
Ron Allen
wavelets@...
Jun 7, 2002 5:20 am
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hi kalev sorry for the delay in responding, also sorry that my response is rather rushed and so not extremely well considered. ... that would be a logos - I...
... We're not in any rush, are we? ... I'm not sure of that. It appears to be me that Klein does not separate these meanings, but unites them. ... Yes, and...
Klein Readers One more time I would like to return to a reading of chapter 6 and prepare another summary of what is going on in that chapter, as I currently...
Dear Klein readers: Comments and questions on Chapter 6: ... I don't see where Plato says what Klein attributes to Socrates. In the Theaetetus section where...
Ron Allen
wavelets@...
Jun 12, 2002 6:19 am
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In a message dated 5/21/02 7:32:51 AM, pehme@... writes in part: << The key to the problem of fractions is actually in the way things are in ...
JCWENGER@...
Jun 17, 2002 6:44 am
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John Wenger writes: [snip] ... [snip] Sorry. I meant a lovely long decimal...a very long, long decimal... Best regards, Kalev Pehme...
Hi Ron ... Interesting point. As George has pointed out the support for various of Klein's assertions that supposedly Plato are questionable. I would like to...
Kleinians I would like to complete my reading of chapter 6 by going through the last two paragraphs. Paragraph 7 Klein here claims that the absence of...
Bill Oates writes: [snip] ... [snip] This problem continues to bother me. There is something very interesting in the notion of "correspondence" or "one-to-one...
hi icastes hope the snipping is understandable ... Yes there is a sense that in counting off there is an ought a necessity at work. We "ought" to get 5 when we...
Hi Bill: Thanks for hauling yourself through my protracted comments. Here, I'll make some brief remarks on counting-off and even-odd. ... Towards an...
Ron Allen
wavelets@...
Jun 18, 2002 8:52 pm
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Bill Oates writes: [snip] ... What is remarkable is that there is no other solution to 2 plus 3 equals 5 or that an number cannot be even or an even number...
I think that after a reply to a reply to a conjecture to a comment to a dramatization from two millenia and four hands of fingers of generations ago *really*...
Ron Allen
wavelets@...
Jun 19, 2002 5:30 am
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... [snip] ... The problem here is the matter of "agreement". Bull, cows, steers, etc. are not by agreement. They are what they are whether we agree to what...
Kleinians I would like to summarize briefly what I have learned so far on my summer vacation. Then, possibly at the end of the week beginning next week, push ...
The last two paragraphs of Chapter 6 concern themselves with Plato's definitions of arithmetic and logistic in the Gorgias (451A-C) and Charmides (165E,...
Ron Allen
wavelets@...
Jun 23, 2002 6:44 am
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... [snip] There is a fascinating conceptual problem that is underlying this discussion which we have not mentioned yet or if we have it has been only done ...
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