At Kalev Pehme's prodding, let me try to outline the argument in the fifth paragraph of Chapter 7, which begins on p. 74. At the end of the fourth paragraph,...
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... pack? ... Spartans are by nature different in kind from the Persians. ... Hi Steve I just started lurking here, so sorry if I have misunderstood you. Are...
Ron Allen writes: [snip] ... No slip at all. It is thematic, and the problem of logistic and arithmetic is examined in chapter 2. For example, quoting the...
Andrew Lancaster writes: [snip] ... Regimes are not herds. A regime is an ordering of political life, while a herd is an aggregate of animals that is either...
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Hi Kalev: ... Well, no, I not sure that's right. What the Charmides scholiast describes here is the counting of objects of sense; in Plato's teaching, this is...
Ron Allen
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Ron Allen writes: [snip] ... [snip] And yet, isn't knowledge a kind of counting or measuring as well? Best regards, Kalev Pehme...
Hi Kalev: You've completely lost me. I don't get the connection to the rest of the thread. But, it doesn't matter. My answer to your question is: not likely....
Ron Allen
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Oct 8, 2002 5:29 am
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... I believe that the underlying problem in this chapter is precisely that measuring and counting are a vital form of knowledge and without it there is no...
I am continuing the outline of Chapter 7 with the sixth paragraph of 7B, which begins on p. 75. As I noted in the post attached below, Plato left a hole in the...
Ron Allen
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Oct 11, 2002 6:30 am
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... Perception is not exactly the same thing as sensory impression. Our senses see the finger as a finger, but once we say to ourselves, "It is a finger," we...
Hi Kalev: You're taking an uncharacteristically modern stance here. You're right that, however we might know things from the senses, there does seem to be some...
Ron Allen
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Oct 14, 2002 8:47 pm
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Hello again Klein readers: I'm now on the seventh paragraph of Chapter 7, part B. It begins in the middle of p. 76. This post is the first of three parts...
Ron Allen
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Oct 15, 2002 6:22 am
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... I don't know about the modernity of my view. However, that perception does not arise until a judgment is made is inherent in the overall Platonic hierarchy...
... That is the one and many problem coming to view once again. The soul is not a composite, yet it is many. Hence, the soul has the character of a whole that...
Hi Kalev: Thanks for poring over my relentless posts. ... If this is the case, it seems like Socrates would have mentioned it in the Phaedo. It would have been...
Ron Allen
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Oct 17, 2002 7:10 am
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Ron Allen writes: [snip] ... In great part, the difficulty truly resides not in the simplicity and eternality of the soul, but how there can not only be many...
Hi Klein readers: This post continues my rather free-hand analysis of paragraph 7 of Chapter 7, part B. In an email from early July of this year, I mentioned a...
Ron Allen
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Oct 18, 2002 5:46 am
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Ron Allen writes: [snip] ... I don't think this problem is a problem. To be mistaken is a part of life, and the mistakes are always there waiting to happen as...
... Dear Mr. Allen, Please do not think me tedious in what follows. I understand by your characterization of your account as a "free-hand analysis" that you do...
J Keyser writes in reply to Ron Allen: [snip] ... I don't know how else one can express the combination or the communal combination of elements to which Klein...
Hello J Keyser: Trenchant, not tedious. Your post represents a breakthrough for me in understanding this chapter. ... No; I was trying to work out a detailed,...
Ron Allen
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Oct 22, 2002 6:10 am
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... Dear Mr. Allen, I did not mean to suggest that he was not serious. Mr. Klein was among the most serious of men. He told good jokes. Most simply I take...
I am pleased to announce the formation of a new group for slow readings of Plato's Apology of Socrates. The discussion leader will be Angela Cembrola who has...
Hello KleinFolk; Happy New Year 2003! I hypothesize that there is a small group of respondents and lurkers on the web that remain interested in slow reading...
Ron Allen
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Jan 6, 2003 6:07 am
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Hi Ron I promised myself to not touch klein until my thesis was finished. But it is very tempting to dive back into this even as a relief fromt the slogging of...
... Spanking _Irish_ schoolgirls? Sounds most intriguing--even fun. Please forgive the delay in responding to your post, and thank you for starting up again. ...
Hey Bill & the rest of the Klein group: Well, you can just chime in whenever you have a notion, with or without having thought through what comes off your...
Ron Allen
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Jan 8, 2003 5:55 am
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Hi Kalev: By the length of your reply, I discern that you're not spending too much time at the Wittgenstein trough. You are in good form, as usual. ... I had...
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