I am pleased to announce the formation of a new group for slow readings of Plato's Apology of Socrates. The discussion leader will be Angela Cembrola who has...
Hello KleinFolk; Happy New Year 2003! I hypothesize that there is a small group of respondents and lurkers on the web that remain interested in slow reading...
Ron Allen
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Jan 6, 2003 6:07 am
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Hi Ron I promised myself to not touch klein until my thesis was finished. But it is very tempting to dive back into this even as a relief fromt the slogging of...
... Spanking _Irish_ schoolgirls? Sounds most intriguing--even fun. Please forgive the delay in responding to your post, and thank you for starting up again. ...
Hey Bill & the rest of the Klein group: Well, you can just chime in whenever you have a notion, with or without having thought through what comes off your...
Ron Allen
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Jan 8, 2003 5:55 am
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Hi Kalev: By the length of your reply, I discern that you're not spending too much time at the Wittgenstein trough. You are in good form, as usual. ... I had...
Ron Allen
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Jan 8, 2003 7:09 am
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Ron Allen writes: I had to go to Japan and Cuba, as usual, therefore the ellipsis. Another CIA agent! ... I think that Klein draws this conclusion about...
Hi Kalev: Just a few brief comments. I have more to post on Chapter 7, but that can wait. ... You encounter lots of them? Well, you've uncloaked me twice,...
Ron Allen
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Jan 9, 2003 6:59 am
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Ron Allen writes: [snip] Interesting. I had thought of Socrates and Hippocrates going to Critias's house in the Protagoras as descending into hell when they ...
Dear Mr. Pehme, In stead of practicing speech making with the scroll hidden under you cloak in your left hand why don't you tell Mr. Allen where he can get the...
J Keyser writes: Dear Mr. Pehme, In stead of practicing speech making with the scroll hidden under you cloak in your left hand why don't you tell Mr. Allen...
Hi Kalev & J Keyser: I guess I'll just be dumb a little longer while you two duel it out. Oh, small correction: I think I said that Socrates and Hippocrates...
Ron Allen
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Jan 10, 2003 5:16 am
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... A number is always a number of things. Sometimes the things become as vacuous and ghostly as indiscriminate monads limitless in multiplicity. These are the...
Dear Ron, Should you be near a good library: Brann, Eva. "The Music of the Republic," Agon 1 (1967) Brann, Eva. 1989-90. "The Music of the Republic. In Four...
I have been trying to get this message to the list several times, but Yahoo keeps refusing it as it is supposed to be bouncing somehow at my ISP, which is...
Ron Allen writes: [snip] On Kalev's interpretation of the first book of the Republic...it seems J Keyser knows this interpretation...I don't know if he agrees...
Dear List Members: I had some problems with bounced messages from this list, a combination of computer quirks between my ISP, ATT, and Yahoo (quite an apt name...
Hi Kalev: ... Please visit the following web page: http://www.pantheon.org/articles/a/artemis.html ... I meant fertility in a broader sense, such as the...
Ron Allen
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Jan 13, 2003 7:10 am
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Ron Allen writes: RA: I meant fertility in a broader sense, such as the fertile products of the earth, as taken by farmers and hunters. But, don't "virgins and...
Hi Klein group: Let's leave Bendis alone for a little bit and try to clarify the Divided Line, end of Book VI, Republic. Icastes wrote ... Kalev, do you mean...
Ron Allen
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Jan 14, 2003 4:03 pm
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Thank you very much J. I've ordered a copy of the St. John's Review. Now, we'll all be on the same pages. I am studying your other post, BTW. --Ron...
Ron Allen
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Jan 14, 2003 4:04 pm
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Ron Allen writes: [snip] ... The four parts are separate; however, they are incomprehensible or inexpressible by themselves. It is the relationship between the...
Hi Kalev & Divided Line fans: ... It seems to me, upon a close reading of Republic (510a ff) that Plato is saying that the sizes of Divided Line segments...
Ron Allen
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Jan 17, 2003 7:10 am
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Ron Allen writes: [snip] ... Veracity is a tough word for me, and I don't see that the translation you use accords with the Greek which seems to say the...
... I agree with this, Ron. But we are left to find reason for assigning all but the two middle segments to the unequal lengths. Although nearly everyone who ...
Hi Kalev: ... It's the noun that we use to describe the condition something is in when it is veracious. If Jill is tenacious, then we'll say that she has ...
Ron Allen
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Jan 18, 2003 6:24 am
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Hi J: ... Yes, that's true. There's nothing that says that the DL algebra couldn't run the relative magnitudes in the other direction. But what Plato says ...
Ron Allen
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Jan 18, 2003 7:07 am
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Ron Allen writes: [snip] RA: It's the noun that we use to describe the condition something is in when it is veracious. If Jill is tenacious, then we'll say...
Hello J & slowly growing list of Klein readers: ... My own first thought about this point was that arithmetic was just too easily understood by the average...
Ron Allen
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Jan 23, 2003 7:39 am
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Hello fellow Klein students: I think we can identify some common ground that we have concerning the Divided Line. Kalev, J, and I all seem to agree that the DL...
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