Ron Allen writes: [snip] Yes, I'm still saying the same thing that I wrote back in mid-late September of last year: "At the same time, we know that Aristotle...
Kalev, I think J is firing a shot back over his shoulder at me, not you. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Feb 2, 2003 5:59 am
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... I am sure that he is, too. However, considering the importance of counting in this part of Klein, I thought it was amusing to know exactly how many ...
Hello Klein students: I want to expropriate J Keyser's attached post below for the purpose of summarizing some of my remaining questions about Klein's Chapter...
Ron Allen
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Feb 4, 2003 8:11 am
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... I disagree. Number is a many. It does not mean that it is interpreted, but it is determinable in a particular instance, 58, for example. When we ...
Um, I can only reply to a few of these things. ... What is "a many"? OK, maybe I'm wrong when I say that for the Greeks a number is an interpreted thing. And...
Ron Allen
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Ron Allen writes: [ snip] ... but ... What is "a many"? Many is more than one; hence, two is the first individual number. Number, as opposed to a number, is...
Hello Aristotelians & Kalev Pehme: Well, Kalev, I'm more than a little disappointed that you bristled at my blunt statement that Aristotle was an enemy of...
Ron Allen
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Feb 6, 2003 5:59 am
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Hi Kalev: Brief comments and clarifications. ... Here, you indicating that when you said "Number is a many" you meant it as attributive, not copulative; my...
Ron Allen
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Feb 6, 2003 6:54 am
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... Number ... A ... ways, ... Four ... You're not saying anything more than that we have nouns, indefinite articles, and definite articles and that we use...
Ron Allen writes: Hello Aristotelians & Kalev Pehme: Well, Kalev, I'm more than a little disappointed that you bristled at my blunt statement that Aristotle...
Yoo-hoo! Hello! Outstanding formulation here by Kalev! ... No! No! A thousand times no! I do *not* in fact think that a number is a complex of logical forms or...
Ron Allen
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Feb 6, 2003 5:29 pm
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Hi Kalev & Unfulfilled Many: OK, OK, let's move forward. ... Many, many people--highly educated people--believe (even as I type!) in the existence, outside of...
Ron Allen
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Feb 7, 2003 6:41 am
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... at ... post ... where ... true ... Twelve ... and ... "...without ... is ... [Forms] ... not ... I would be most happy to give you a rejoinder on the...
Dear List Members: Ron Allen has done yeoman's service, and as I am desirous to get to 7C I will want to begin the section as Mr. Allen has cleaned up 7B...
Hello Kalev & Klein list: Thanks for your detailed & excellent introduction to this important section of Chapter 7. The Klein list covered this earlier, but...
Ron Allen
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Feb 11, 2003 5:13 pm
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Dear List Members: Well, there was no uproar of uprising over what I said the last time. Let's see what happens now. Klein continues: "From the foregoing we...
Dear List Members: We begin Klein's summary of the Sophist, and it is a rather short paragraph with an introductory character to the rest of the argument: "The...
Hi Klein readers: I have a few questions about Kalev's analysis. ... Is conclusion (1) above explicit in Plato? It seems to me that it is not, but maybe...
Ron Allen
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Feb 20, 2003 6:29 am
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... Yes, of course, it is explicit in Plato every time Socrates, for examples, speaks of the just or the beautiful. The greater difficulty is when he must ...
Hi Kalev: ... That might be an implicit acceptance of the distinction, nothing more. ... 1. In Parmenides (130b): Parm.: "Have you yourself drawn this...
Ron Allen
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Feb 21, 2003 6:46 am
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Ron Allen writes: [snip] ... As I said, all koina reflect each other. However, the point is that completely heterogenous things have to be a part of the whole...
Dear List Members: Klein began his analysis of the problems of the Sophist by laying down the duplicitous character of being, which is able to con-front or...
Hello Klein group & Kalev: I have to cut up Kalev's reply quite a bit. ... That is impossible! No, I changed my mind: it's impossible. No, I changed my mind:...
Ron Allen
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Feb 22, 2003 2:44 am
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Ron Allen writes: [snip] ... That's the point: _The_ Whole contains what is possible, what is, what is not, what comes to be and passes away, as well as what...
Dear List Members: We are in the midst of the Sophist's problem of "being" and "seeming" which naturally leads to the problem of being and nonbeing. We are on...
Dear List Members: We have moved into the problem of being and nonbeing as it relates to what is and what is image as presented in the Sophist. "Now...
Dear Kalev Pehme: ... What you did up there was to snip out my remark where I explained what kind of remark I was looking for in Plato. You didn't produce such...