Dear List Members: We are in the 5th graph of 7C, p. 87. We come to the most critical problem of motion and rest within being as the discussion of the Sophist...
Dear List Members: Klein continues with his long analysis arising out of the Sophist: “Thus the relation of stasis and kinesis forms the nucleus of all the ...
Dear List Members: This message is a bit long, I'm afraid. I was about to break it up, but go so caught up in it that I simply went to its end. Klein continues...
Greetings. I have some questions and comments about the last thought provoking posting, which I have inserted below. Best wishes, Burt Hopkins ... Within the...
... Dear Mr. Pehme, Would you take a moment and do us the great service of setting out how you agree and disagree with Jacob Klein and Seth Benardete. I, of...
... [snip] ... I have no problem with this notion. I only used the most obvious; however, there are two major genera of numbers, odd and even, and I believe 17...
... not ... Seth Benardete's view of the whole is very Platonic and follows Leo Strauss, I believe, with the exception that Benardete sees tragedy as more...
Dear Mr. Pehme, Thank you for your responses to my questions and comments. My attempts to keep the conversation going are below. Best regards, Burt Hopkins ......
Burt Hopkins writes: [all snips for space] ... So far as we have gone: Klein speaks of the "mixing" on p. 86 of non-beings and being and elaborates it...
Dear Mr. Pehme, Thank you for your most recent attempt to clarify the resent statements you make about 7C that I continue to find problematical--despite your ...
Burt Hopkins writes: Thank you for your most recent attempt to clarify the resent statements you make about 7C that I continue to find problematical--despite ...
... Many authors (Heath, Kline, van der Waerden, Anglin) do interpret ancient mathematics using modern concepts and notations; this helps us understand more...
Ron Allen
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Mar 13, 2003 4:57 pm
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[snip] "For surely the reference of our present controversy is not the pleasure of victory of my good or yours, but that both of us must struggle for what is...
... Mr. Hopkins, the "gift of the gods" clearly and decisively comes from a Prometheus, i.e., an artisan. I know of no mythological account of Prometheus that...
Dear List Members: Klein continues: "The Platonic theory of the _arithmoi eidetikoi_ is known to us in these terms only from the Aristotlean polemic against it...
... The following quotes are from Klein's "About Plato's Philebus." For the most part, I believe their meaning is sufficiently clear without further comment. ...
... I slap the gods in the face for bestowing gifts like these on me. --Ron Allen A.B., math, Berkeley, honors in major with great distinction; M.A., math,...
Ron Allen
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Mar 17, 2003 4:36 am
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... It is never wise to slap the gods. You are never free of guilt, as the very degrees you tout are a sure sign of it! Best regards, Kalev Pehme...
Dear List Members: I have been _bounced_ back and forth within Yahoo, and it is likely that I may have lost some postings along the way. Yahoo dropped my...
Dear List Members: Klein continues (p. 95): "The dianoetic understanding is clearly only about this much, that each of the 'three' things presupposed by it,...
Dear List Members: Klein continues (p. 96): "'Otherness' makes possible an 'arithmetic community' among eidetic monads which are not capable of 'being mixed'...
Dear List Members: I want to apologize for not posting in a while. I have been caught up in a lot more than I care to be locked into, preventing me for...
Dear List Members: I am combining the last two paragraphs together in one post and doing so I will finish my basic reading of 7C. I hope that in this reading I...
Hello Klein group: On p. 91, Klein says, "...as Aristotle reports...there are three kinds of arithmoi: (i) the arithmos eidetikos--idea number, (ii) the...
Ron Allen
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Apr 18, 2003 5:45 am
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... What about the divided line itself? Isn't it an image? Best regards, Kalev Pehme...
Hi Klein group: Let's look at the top of the Arithmetic Divided Line. What are the eidetic (idea) numbers? 1. "In his lecture "On the Good" he seems to have...
Ron Allen
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Apr 18, 2003 5:11 pm
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... One is not a number, but it has to be an eidetic number or else not all numbers can be made out of these eidetic numbers. The eidetic one is the ...
Good evening Klein group: Klein says (p. 91), "The Platonic theory of the arithmoi eidetikoi is known to us in these terms only from the Aristotleian polemic...
Ron Allen
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Apr 20, 2003 6:24 am
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Hello again Klein group: In vol. I of his 'History of Greek Mathematics' (Oxford, 1921) Heath says that 1. The first definition of number is due to Thales (p....
Ron Allen
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Hi Ron et al I am interested in jumping back into this ring but have missed several pages of commentary. I will try to join in with wherever we have arrived...
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