Dear K-Loggers (and especially David), Here is my thinking on the differences between K-Logs and discussion groups. I have been talking to lots of people recently about the state of their discussion groups. To a person they have told me that they weren't what they expected, and some have said they have been a disaster. I am fairly sure that anyone that been exposed to an advanced K-Log system (with categories, RSS subscriptions, and community functionality) would never opt for discussion groups alone. The reason for this is threefold: 1) Discussion groups, particularly threaded conversations are difficult to follow. There is often a high degree of fragmentation as participants loop the conversation into different areas. 2) The signal to noise ratio between good posts and bad posts is usually very low. 3) The loudest voices often overwhelm the majority of participants. This is perhaps the most important reason most discussion groups fail. This is a case of the one bad apple spoiling the bunch. K-Logs and discussion groups aren't mutually exclusive. Many K-Log systems (like Manila) provide a discussion area and site membership for every K-Log and Radio offers the ability of readers to post comments to each post (see http://jrobb.userland.com as an example). An added benefit is that each site owner can moderate (decentralized moderation) their discussion groups and comments (by deleting off-topic or inane posts). However, K-Logs offer much more than discussion groups alone, and fix many of their problems: 1) K-Logs represent the thinking of a single mind. This often narrows the range of subjects addressed. Further, it is possible to publish category specific K-Logs. So, as a reader, I can select to read a single participant's thinking on a specific subject (i.e.. Jon Udell's thinking on "collaboration" see: http://radio.weblogs.com/0100887/categories/collaboration/ ). Further, I can subscribe through RSS to this category specific K-Log. 2) The signal to noise ratio in K-Logs often remains high. Why? K-Loggers can select the people they want to read through RSS subscriptions. There is no requirement to read the K-Logs of verbose nitwits (there are always some in every group). Additionally, community K-Log functionality can tell you through traffic and subscription stats who the trusted sources are. 3) K-Logs provide a podium for every participant. Everyone has their own site. No voice can be silenced. Additionally, people tend to post higher quality information when it is attached to their name (every post they make adds to their body of work). This is in contrast to the anonymous posting (or posting under a handle) that many discussion groups allow. Personally, I usually don't spend that much time on discussion group and opt instead to post my thinking to my K-Log. The reason is selfish: I don't want to spend time working on a serious post that isn't directly attributed to my name. I am building a body of work with my K-Log and the benefits accrue directly to me. A discussion post offers me little recognition for my effort. It is also often lost on a stranded thread or in a blizzard of off-topic nonsense. Sincerely, John Robb http://radio.userland.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]