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Re: LAERNING KONYA LANGUAGE


Hi Dana,

Me too!

The only practical difficulties I had with the Konya / Elomi / Ilomi
family were that:

1) many useful words were simply too long (*);
and

2) the lack of any vowel harmony rules (or something!) made quite a
few particular derived words rather awkward to say without them
seeming to morph, will-I, nill-I, into forms with rather more
internal rhymes.

These carping crticisms aside, I'm confident that the corpus created
so quickly - by so few - demonstrated that Ilomi and its ilk had
plenty of expressive power and versatility, were relatively easy to
pronounce, and would be pretty easy and quick to learn. On that
assessment, I don't think we should write the experiment off just yet.

Regards,
Yahya

(*) This thought, together with some questions asked by my family
about the meanings of some common English affixes deriving from the
classical languages, made me review the derivation schemes of Latin,
which show a surprising economy in the length of derived forms. And
the common thread, in many IE languages, of deriving different
grammatical forms by mutating vowels, shows the value of using a
consonantal skeleton to convey a root meaning - a process taken
almost to its logical extreme in "West Asiatic" (which ought by
rights include most of Europe!), or whatever Semitic languages are
now called. But can we have a language with consonant skeletons
imparting root meanings, and vowel sequences grammatical roles,
without necessarily producing a "Euroclone" or a "Semiticlone"? YA


--- In konyalanguage@yahoogroups.com, <li_sasxsek@...> wrote:
>
> > > Hi, All. I foreswore all "rights", to the extent that there
> > ever were any, to Konya, Elomi, and ilomi last fall, in a
> > public posting to the auxlang list server (also to the
> > conlang list server IIRC). ---larry
>
> It's always refreshing to see someone working on something
> besides Euroclones so I really hate to see projects like this
> fade away.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> deinx nxtxr / Dana Nutter
>
> LI SASXSEK LATIS.
> http://www.nutter.net/sasxsek
>





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HI, HOW ARE YOU , DEAR FRIEND, I WANT TO LEARN KONYA LANGUAGE , I WILL BE GLAD IF YOU HELP ME. THANKS. Z.T Send instant messages to your online friends...
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... THANKS. ... Hi, ZT or "Star sky" or "Persia Business", May I ask, what is your mother tongue? Also, what is you interest in Konya, and how did you first...
Yahya
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... (etc) Hi again, ZT, I should add that Konya's development resulted in another language, "Elomi", based on many of the same principles, yet different. And...
Yahya
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Hi, All. I foreswore all "rights", to the extent that there ever were any, to Konya, Elomi, and ilomi last fall, in a public posting to the auxlang list server...
Larry Sulky
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... Specifically http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0609A&L=AUXLANG&T=0&F=&S=&P=4025 ...
Jim Henry
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Jun 18, 2007
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... It's always refreshing to see someone working on something besides Euroclones so I really hate to see projects like this fade away. ... deinx nxtxr / Dana...
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Jim, Thanks for the links. I haven't been able to keep up much email correspondence so far this year; if this should improve, I'll probably get back to...
Yahya
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Ok, Larry! I'm sorry to know that you've lost interest in this particular creation, since I believe it had some real possibilities. Still, I'm sure you had...
Yahya
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Jun 21, 2007
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Hi Dana, Me too! The only practical difficulties I had with the Konya / Elomi / Ilomi family were that: 1) many useful words were simply too long (*); and 2)...
Yahya
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... there ... this ... Ilomi ... quite a ... them ... created ... had ... easy to ... that ... just yet. I don't think vowel harmony is a good idea for an...
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Hi Dana, ... Ah yes, Lume; I _thought_ I'd missed out a grandchild or so. And I agree that Konya "started off well"; I even felt that Elomi perhaps lost a bit...
Yahya
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