... **If agentives in _-ndo_ were formed from the aorist stem, why is _úcarindor_ not *_úcarendor_, given _úcarer_? [This matter was already touched by...
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Fredrik
fr3dr1k_s
Aug 3, 2002 12:02 pm
... "Faint pencilled markings over the _e_ suggest that Tolkien intended to emend _úcarer_ > _úcarir_ (though the form remains _úcarer_ in At. VI)." ...
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Fredrik
fr3dr1k_s
Aug 3, 2002 12:43 pm
... Read "At. VI", of course. Sorry about the typo. It should be added in this context that Tolkien *did* put in corrections on the At. VI postcard: "_mal_...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Aug 4, 2002 9:48 pm
I thought about it today: are sounds _i_ (as in _Quendi_) and _y_ (as in _Yavanna_) two phonemes or variants of one phoneme in Quenya? As far as I can see they...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Aug 5, 2002 1:17 am
... If what you say is true of the aorist interpretation, it is every bit as true of your past-tense interpretation. There is in fact _every_ reason to ...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Aug 5, 2002 5:41 pm
... In the positions you cite, I believe that they are different phonemes. ... There is a situation that is very much like this in Finnish. Let me phrase this...
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gentlebeldin
Aug 6, 2002 11:05 am
... Possibly, they do: There's the pronominal suffix _-lye_ and the suffix _-lie_, as in _Eldalie_. This could rule out the possibility of allomorphs: they...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Aug 6, 2002 8:07 pm
In the Qenya Lexicon of the 1910's there is a word called _lómë_ (I:255). This is the first occurrence of such a word that I am aware of. There the word is...
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atarinke
Aug 6, 2002 10:18 pm
... Hrm... I don't quite like the idea of having a consonant and a vowel as one phoneme (but I haven't read Grundzüge, so what do I know ;). I guess it could...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Aug 6, 2002 10:21 pm
... Of course not. I was quite aware of that, for it has been ellaborated quite often in "The History of Middle-earth". I am sorry if my text implied that in...
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Fredrik
fr3dr1k_s
Aug 7, 2002 11:48 am
... In the post that Carl is responding to, I said that where Patrick Wynne in his _VT_ analysis assumes an _i_ to be present, I see an exclamation mark. I did...
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gentlebeldin
Aug 7, 2002 12:07 pm
... I have to agree: any example of syllabic /i/ before another vocal would be sufficient to rule out the hypothesis in question, because /y/ is possible in...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Aug 7, 2002 12:41 pm
... That would indeed be unreasonable. But if you mean to imply that that is how the interpretation of the marks Tolkien made against _úcarer_ was arrived ...
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pa2rick
Aug 7, 2002 1:19 pm
... to Carl Hostetter's comment (re the form _úcarer_ 'do ill, trespass' in At. V, VI) that "If what you say is true of the aorist interpretation, ... ...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Aug 8, 2002 11:10 am
... Are you sure it would be _úcárer_ with two long vowels following each other ? David Kiltz [As I've already pointed out in this thread, the word...
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Erestel
Aug 8, 2002 11:38 am
... anomalous form; if it is a pa.t., then we should expect _úcárer_ ... vowels following each other ? ... _únótime_ (Galadriel's Lamaent) shows that there...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Aug 8, 2002 10:34 pm
... **This is a good point. Actually, it is possible that _únótime_ is not sufficient enough to validate *_úcárer_. Words _úvane_ "withough beauty" and...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Aug 8, 2002 10:40 pm
... **So the _j_ is not pronounced there, right? Speaking of which, what is it like in Finnish? I do not know a lot about it. Does Finnish have j as a separate...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Aug 8, 2002 10:44 pm
... **You are right, this would be the same phonetic environs. ... **I am afraid I do not understand you here. ... **Speaking of <yanta> and Tengwar, Arden...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Aug 8, 2002 10:45 pm
... **Well, I have not either. My German is very poor and the book was not translated to Czech. I do not know whether it was translated to English (was it?)....
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gentlebeldin
Aug 9, 2002 11:54 am
... It's just a reformulation: if only one variant is possible in a certain environment, it's predictable which one, knowing only the environment. ... That's...
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gentlebeldin
Aug 9, 2002 5:37 pm
It seems to me that there is considerable confusion in the discussion of past/perfect tenses of Eldarin verbs. That's often caused by lack of appropriate...
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pa2rick
Aug 9, 2002 6:40 pm
Hans's post raises some interesting questions. I'd like to note that ultimately Tolkien's own terminology for Eldarin parts of speech must be given primacy of...
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gentlebeldin
Aug 9, 2002 9:08 pm
... That's true, and I didn't understand it as a rebuke, since my comments were aimed at the terminology used for ENGLISH participles like "seen" or "killed"...
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Ivan A Derzhanski
iad58
Aug 10, 2002 12:16 pm
... Unlike Pat, I can very well imagine situations where it may be advantageous to use categories, or names from them, different from the ones JRRT used, even...
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atarinke
Aug 10, 2002 12:21 pm
... Well, I agree in part. A compound *_heru-yon_ (of the same type as _Elda-lambe_) might exist for some time however, perhaps distinguishing some special...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Aug 10, 2002 4:32 pm
... The _j_ is an easening sound here, it is sometimes not pronounced at all, but most often it is a gliding sound to help the transition to the next vowel...
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gentlebeldin
Aug 12, 2002 12:46 am
... Indeed, we should avoid misunderstandings. But I thought I made clear I was speaking of the group of participles of strong verbs like "been, seen, done,...
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gentlebeldin
Aug 14, 2002 11:42 pm
... Petri, you'll remember I didn't share this opinion. But I have to take into consideration new (for me!) material, and now I think you are right. In XI:363...
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Sébastien Bertho
lambendil
Aug 15, 2002 5:16 am
... This makes me think of Tolkien's statement about the pronunciation of /l/ in Elvish languages in the Appendices E of LotR : « [The /l/] was, however, to...
