... This makes me think of Tolkien's statement about the pronunciation of /l/ in Elvish languages in the Appendices E of LotR : « [The /l/] was, however, to...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Aug 17, 2002 8:53 pm
From: Julian Bradfield <jcb@...> The TolkLang archive (currently at http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/misc/local/TolkLang/) is now mirroring the Lambengolmor...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Aug 19, 2002 11:16 am
I'd like to comment on a couple of things I wrote in my editorial addendum ... When I wrote this, I was relying on a Web-based description of the IPA. I've ...
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Sébastien Bertho
lambendil
Aug 19, 2002 5:35 pm
... I've seen, on a chart of unicode characters (http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0300.pdf), a sign described as IPA palatalization (#0321). It's a small...
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Ivan A Derzhanski
iad58
Aug 19, 2002 5:56 pm
... [...] ... I have to disagree, Carl. The palatal lateral approximant is the sound written in Quenya as _ly_. What you're saying here amounts to equating...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Aug 19, 2002 6:07 pm
... I agree that Eldarin _l_ was not as strongly palatalized as Italian _gl(i)_ or Castillian _ll_. As Tolkien wrote « [The /l/] was, however, to some degree...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Aug 19, 2002 8:47 pm
... [...] ... **I may be wrong, but my understanding of it is different. Tolkien wrote that L was "to some degree 'palatalized'" in the environments in...
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Jérémie Knuesel
eldacan
Aug 25, 2002 5:02 pm
Did Tolkien use a name more specific than "the language of the Rohirrim" to refer to this tongue? The word 'Rohirric' commonly used doesn't seem to appear in...
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Arden R. Smith
erilaz7
Aug 26, 2002 4:35 am
I wonder who first used the term "Rohirric." To the best of my knowledge, the earliest attestation is in "The One Inconsistency in LotR" by Robert Foster,...
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gildir_2
Aug 26, 2002 11:51 am
... This was discussed in the Mellonath Daeron a few months ago. Here follows an attempt to summarize our findings. We are not aware of any authorial use of...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Aug 30, 2002 2:11 pm
I have created an information and guidelines page for the Lambengolmor list, at: http://www.elvish.org/LambengolmorList/ All members are encouraged to visit...
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Hans Georg Lundahl
hglundahl
Sep 3, 2002 11:42 am
Considering that _Rohan_, _Rohirrim_ are elvish names and the indigenous name is Mark, Riddersmark for the country (formerly _Calenardhon_?) and Riders of the...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Sep 6, 2002 12:33 am
Hans commented on Petri Tikka's suggestion that _lyenna_ ... **This does not, however, necessarily mean that _ly_ in _lyenna_ has to be medial. As you cited,...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Sep 6, 2002 12:34 am
... **I think it would be an _l_ with a small superscript _j_. Similarly, labialization would be represented with a superscript _w_ and aspiration with a...
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Boris Shapiro
elenhil@...
Sep 6, 2002 12:38 pm
Aiya! I was much delighted to learn from the last VT issue about a useful Quenya preposition: _apa_ "touching, against", from the root *(A)PA "touch (not with ...
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Paul Svensson
paul-ling@...
Sep 6, 2002 2:32 pm
... This same apparent contradiction appears in some native American languages, but is simply a different view on time. Since you can see what's in front of...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Sep 6, 2002 4:35 pm
... Just as they have e.g. in English... "the world of those who will be after us still lies before us". "To judge afterwards what was before". _Before_ here...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Sep 6, 2002 9:10 pm
... **I see. However, it does not imply from the fact that _paju_ is never pronounced with [i] that the j and i are necessarily separate phonemes. Their...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Sep 6, 2002 9:11 pm
... **I see. Now I understand, because I misunderstood you a little bit: I thought you wanted to indicate a morpheme boundary by the hyphen in *_heru-yon_; it...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Sep 7, 2002 2:11 am
[Javier Lorenzo writes: ] I write to inform you about a possible typo in the last issue of _Vinyar Tengwar_ #44. It's stated in the last paragraph on page 35: ...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Sep 7, 2002 12:13 pm
... **In Finnish, the sound [ń] occurs only before [k] (the voiced [g] is unknown in Finnish) or another [ń], that is in a position where [n] is never...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Sep 7, 2002 3:06 pm
... I believe the term wanted is _allophone_, not allomorph.... Carl...
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Boris Shapiro
elenhil@...
Sep 7, 2002 5:24 pm
Aiya! So it seems that we have three prepositions of similar meaning. _epe_ 1) "before" (*_A naa calima epe B_ - VT42:32, VT44:38) 2) "after" (_epesse_ -...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Sep 7, 2002 5:47 pm
If anyone is having trouble with accented characters and the like not displaying properly in your e-mail client, be aware that the fault lies in the poster's...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Sep 8, 2002 1:23 pm
In "Appendix E" of LR Tolkien informs us that V "has the sound of English v" in Quenya and Sindarin. Now, as is well known, the V of English is a voiced ...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Sep 8, 2002 2:02 pm
Just a couple of brief comments arising from Petri's latest post on the change of _w_ to _v_ in late Quenya: ... You mean "Vanyarin";, surely? ... The same...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Sep 8, 2002 2:03 pm
This discussion concerned, among other things, the interpretation of Tolkien's pencilled markings above the form _úcarer_ in At. V (VT43:12), with the...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Sep 8, 2002 8:04 pm
... [...] ... Yes, of course. ... By the way, if it wasn't enitrely clear, the sound W has never occurred in the development of Finnish from...
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Irene A Gates
112321.3163@...
Sep 9, 2002 11:51 am
... Before we start using it as data: do we know that the "_merin_" sentence (_merin sa haryalye alasse nó vanyalye Ambarello_ 'I hope that you have happiness...
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gentlebeldin
Sep 9, 2002 12:18 pm
Your [Petri Tikka's] examples are interesting, but the impression is slightly marred by a certain vagueness in terminology. Are you speaking of internal or...
