... **Er, did I miss something? As far as I know neither the perfect of _lelya-_ (did you mean _auta-_?) nor the present tense of _lanta-_ (I suppose you mean...
330
Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Mar 3, 2003 2:14 am
... **I may not understand you and perhaps the confusion was caused by my failure to explain precisely what I meant the by Cy combinations. At any rate I would...
331
David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Mar 4, 2003 12:38 pm
... Seems you understood me right. There was no confusion. I simply think that _ty_, _hy_, _ny_, _ly_ are combinations of C+y. ... I beg to differ (v.s.). ... ...
332
Petri Tikka
petristikka
Mar 5, 2003 1:45 pm
... Cf. "RH represents a voiceless _r_ (usually dervied from older initial _sr-_). It was written _hr_ in Quenya." (LR:1088). I know of no examples, but...
333
Pavel Iosad
pavel_iosad
Mar 6, 2003 7:49 pm
[PLEASE be sure to indicate clearly and accurately to whom you are responding in your posts! CFH] [David Kiltz wrote:] ... Well, yes. (I agree, anyway) Though...
334
Pavel Iosad
pavel_iosad
Mar 6, 2003 8:25 pm
Hello, ... I strongly doubt that. The first syllable of a KAR-initial stem wouldn't suffer any kind of syncope in Quenya, since stress was retracted exactly to...
335
Pavel Iosad
pavel_iosad
Mar 6, 2003 8:29 pm
Hello, ... I was referring to IX:56, where the forms _lendien_ and _nilendie_ occur, and they are to be compared with the first edition's _vánier_, as well...
336
Petri Tikka
petristikka
Mar 6, 2003 9:51 pm
... Yes, there was probably no _kr-_ in PQ, or at later stages before Quenya. I mean possible loan words, since the cluster couldn't be understood. By analogy...
337
Pavel Iosad
pavel_iosad
Mar 6, 2003 11:23 pm
Hello, ... It could be lost altogether. It might be noted that the only non-Eldarin language from which Quenya is known to have borrowed is Khuzdul (well,...
338
David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Mar 7, 2003 11:14 am
... Note however (Pomp. comm. Don.: s littera hanc habet potestatem, ut ubi opus fuerit excludatur de metro. "The character of the letter s is such that it...
339
Petri Tikka
petristikka
Mar 7, 2003 1:34 pm
... Without the example _Hristo_ < _Christus_ (VT44:16,18), that would be a convincing arguement. The example is what I base my hypothesis on, otherwise that...
340
Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Mar 7, 2003 6:23 pm
... **This is actually one of possibilities I suggested. I tried primarily to find the base from Etym and the most likely ones I could think of were KHAM-...
341
Petri Tikka
petristikka
Mar 8, 2003 2:12 pm
... Isn't that what I just implied? So I do agree. ... I'm not actually certain, but I think I mean it here as a preposition used as a mark of location...
342
David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Mar 9, 2003 2:49 pm
... Nominal prefixes occur frequently in Quenya: E.g. _mirroanwi_, tercenye_ etc. [_Mirroanwi_ 'Incarnates, those (spirits) put into flesh' < _mi- srawanwe_...
343
Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Mar 9, 2003 4:52 pm
... This presentation fails to account for a critical fact concerning the first stage of the (indeed) evolving text: Tolkien's Old English translation...
344
Petri Tikka
petristikka
Mar 9, 2003 7:24 pm
... All nice and well, except that _mi_ "in, within" (V:373) and _-sse_ aren't cognates, while _na_ and _-nna_ are. One can sit _mahalmassen_ "upon thrones"...
345
David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Mar 10, 2003 12:47 pm
... I didn't mean to say that. The Etymologies give Quenya _an, ana, na_ "to, towards", prefix _ana_. That is pretty close to the meaning of _-nna_. I do not...
346
Petri Tikka
petristikka
Mar 10, 2003 4:56 pm
... I said as much in the post you are replying to. ... Certainly it exists, no one is denying that, but its meaning is in dispute. ... Listed in the...
347
Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
Mar 11, 2003 3:25 am
There seem to be two main objections to accepting the phrase "_to hęțe_" (OE 'to (the) haven') in the parallel Old English translation as indicating...
348
tchitrec
Mar 11, 2003 8:12 pm
In XII:363, Tolkien mentions a Telerin adjective _gâialâ_ (the source has macrons) equivalent in sense to the Quenya _aika_ "fell, terrible, dire" (XII:347...
349
Hans Georg Lundahl
hglundahl
Mar 12, 2003 6:53 pm
... Whether a switch in quantities exists in the Tolkien langauges or not, it certainly does in classic Attic: Menélêos regularly becomes Menéleôs (the...
350
Boris Shapiro
elenhil
Mar 13, 2003 12:23 pm
Aiya! Do you know anything about rare cases of -r derivation in Old Noldorin? I mean cases like N _gador_ "prison" (V:358) and _nadhor_ "pasture" (V:374) which...
351
laurifindil
Mar 13, 2003 12:31 pm
... Probabaly it is a typo (not a scribal error of Tolkien) for _gâiala_. In such difficult matters, the typos are not a rare find, and are most unfortunate. ...
352
pa2rick
Mar 14, 2003 1:35 am
... Two forms are actually given for each of these words in the _Etymologies_: N. _gadr, gador_ 'prison, dungeon' < GAT(H) (whence also N. _gath_ 'cavern', N....
353
Boris Shapiro
elenhil
Mar 14, 2003 11:54 pm
Aiya! Friday, March 14, 2003, 3:08:55 AM, pa2rick wrote: <skipping a thorough explanation for which I am grateful> ... p> Interpretation of ON _etledro_ as...
354
David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Mar 15, 2003 11:56 pm
Clarification: As I mentioned in my first post on the subject (_nahamna_) the hypothesis outlined by me was done as a heuristic means. To see whether it could...
355
Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
Mar 16, 2003 12:14 am
... **I see. Why do you think so? ... **I was not talking about a palatalized _p_, because I do not think the graphemic Cy combinations stand for palatalized...
356
Patrick H. Wynne
pa2rick
Mar 16, 2003 5:12 pm
Boris Shapiro asked if anyone has any ideas about the use of _-ro_ as an abstract noun ending in ON _ndakro_ 'slaughter, battle' (V:375). In all other...
357
David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Mar 16, 2003 8:46 pm
... If I read it correctly, _ndakro_ is given as a ON form (just as _ndagno_ "slain"). [Absolutely -- this is not a contested point. I merely wished to make it...
358
David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
Mar 16, 2003 11:08 pm
... I know. I wasn't criticizing. I just wanted to hook on to it. ... That is a severe counter-argument. One would then have to resort to other explanations....
