Edouard Kloczko wondered ... In an appended comment Patrick Wynne noted that the phrasing of the question apparently ... To take up this thread, it is worth...
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Beregond. Anders Sten...
j_beregond
May 3, 2003 1:27 pm
While Patrick Wynne presents reasons for his description of _-ni_ as "accusative in form", distinct from the "nominative ending . . . _-nye_" and from the...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
May 12, 2003 12:03 pm
With the very kind permission of the Tolkien Estate, I am pleased to be able to provide for download a PDF version of _Vinyar Tengwar_ issue 43, containing the...
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Beregond. Anders Sten...
j_beregond
May 14, 2003 12:37 pm
... Would not _é_ in **_lé-ana_ have been reduced, as is usual in hiatus position? That is, can we tell from this single example whether subject and object...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 14, 2003 3:13 pm
... What, then, is your definition of "object" in this context? ... In German? What about e.g. nom. _der Ochse_, acc. _den Ochsen_? David Kiltz...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 14, 2003 5:24 pm
... Coagent, aye, if you will. The *agent* part is what counts. ... Here, I think, you mix terminology. Indeed, what you mean seems to be "in some languages...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 14, 2003 6:25 pm
... I don't understand the connection you make between "green" and "with thee". The first is an adjective, "with thee" is not. Indeed "with thee" has no...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 14, 2003 9:12 pm
... Yes and no. I would distinguish 3 layers: 1) Formal layer. Case markings. 2) Syntactical layer. The syntax of the language (subject, object etc.). Logical...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 14, 2003 9:43 pm
... The distinction logical vs grammatical subject is, IMHO, in general terms unfortunate. The definition of "grammatical subject" is apparently based solely...
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Bill Welden
williamwelden
May 14, 2003 9:43 pm
This posting is to announce: The First International Conference on J.R.R. Tolkien's Invented Languages (Informally "Omentielva Minya", or just "Omentielva") ...
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Frederick Hoyt
fmhoyt@...
May 15, 2003 10:53 am
[This discussion is drifting far afield from Tolkien's languages -- whatever the linguistic merits of the discussion, we can be pretty certain that Tolkien ...
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Hans
gentlebeldin
May 15, 2003 12:38 pm
... In general, maybe. But we are speaking of Quenya at a certain conceptual stage. I mentioned the Plotz letter already, let's quote the relevant sentence:...
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Lukas Novak
lukas.novak@...
May 15, 2003 12:53 pm
... In Czech, I can think of one preposition that requires nominative (others require various other cases) -- the Czech equivalent of "like" -- in "he is like...
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Lukas Novak
lukas.novak@...
May 15, 2003 1:01 pm
... Please excuse me to intrude on your learned discourse, but it seems to me that the differences are more than "slight". It seems to me that arguing that...
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Lukas Novak
lukas.novak@...
May 15, 2003 1:02 pm
... There was a rule in scholasticians' disputations that it was the task of the one who denied a distinction to prove the identity, not vice versa. The reason...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 15, 2003 2:38 pm
i Héru aselye (VT43:28) - Dominus Tecum - the Lord is with Thee. A short inquiry into a prepositional complement. Let's look at the English sentence first....
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Hans Georg Lundahl
hglundahl
May 15, 2003 4:17 pm
We have 1 the _logical_ opposition of _subject_ and _predicate_, the underlying concept and the statement made about it. In "Eric kills Edgar" EITHER noun...
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Hans Georg Lundahl
hglundahl
May 15, 2003 7:07 pm
... There is a difference between an _appositum ex recto_ like: _God_ in _The Lord is God_ _thou_ in _The Lord art thou, O Jesu!_ _great_ in _The Lord is...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 16, 2003 6:00 pm
... *Uninflected* forms, of course. -David Kiltz...
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Hans
gentlebeldin
May 16, 2003 10:12 pm
I'm sorry, but I think the moderators are right: we should return to JRRT. In fact, Russian has FAR MORE passive constructions, than English! The reflexive ...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
May 17, 2003 6:03 pm
Sorry for the barrage of membership messages. A glitch due to an inattentive moderator and a rude (now ex-)member. Carl...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 22, 2003 12:04 pm
... This refers probably to the genitive in _-o_, pl _-on_ and probably also the "ablative"; _-Vllo_. In the latter case, _3o_ or _ho_ is assimilated to the...
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Carl F. Hostetter
endorendil
May 22, 2003 2:36 pm
In message 438, David Kiltz discusses the so-called "_Entu_, _Ensi_, _Enta_ Declension", first presented and analyzed by Christopher Gilson ... This last is a...
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Hans
gentlebeldin
May 24, 2003 12:49 am
... No, this refers to the page I quoted, where we further read that the ancient adverbial element occurred also as "enclitic, as attached to noun stems (the...
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Ales Bican
Ales_Bican
May 24, 2003 1:56 am
Patrick Wynne wrote in response to Hans' wish "to see some evidence ... **However, it must be noted that development of monosyllabic words (MWs) differed from...
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Hans
gentlebeldin
May 25, 2003 5:30 pm
... In fact, the Plotz Letter says so explicitly, the sentence you quoted continues: "... and before final cons. in words of two or more syllables". This is...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 26, 2003 12:39 pm
... "S- demonstrative stem _su, so_ "he"; _si, se_ "she". What else would _he_ and _she_ be than nominatives ? In Sindarin, _hain_ and _hin_ (_i thiw hin_ is...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 26, 2003 12:44 pm
... Orthotone vs enclitic variants ? David Kiltz...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 26, 2003 12:45 pm
... Based on what ? My suggestion seems to be phonetically plausible. Whereas loss of long -ô seems not. David Kiltz...
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David Kiltz
tarhuntassas
May 27, 2003 12:39 am
... As Hans notes, _Orome_ here has genitival function without (overt) case markings. Such constructions also occur in English: _Mount Doom_ = "Mount of doom"...
